I do think that the mid scourge lane is far too open. Compared to the Sentinel side its like a football pitch. Simply add some trees would fix this and not make it so open. I did this quickly;

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Currently looks like:

Quick add some trees;

Also Invoker is fun

paper

13196 Posts

February 08 2008 04:26 GMT

#986

i definitely agree that scourge mid lane is too open

but putting trees like that take away mid's vision and he'll just get ganked more

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

February 08 2008 04:57 GMT

#987

I just hate scourge jungle as a whole. It's a cluster-fuck, it's hard to figure out where the creep is (they're REALLY far back near the trees a lot, and in places like the west-most there're actually three dips into the trees, so you have to remember which dip has the creep). There're way too many entrances from the river, so it's hell to ward, there must be like 8 freakin' ramps. And if you're denying jungle with wards it's basically impossible to survive/escape because the place is so freakin' open. Hate.

rpf

United States2705 Posts

February 08 2008 05:37 GMT

#988

Agreed; the scourge neutral area is just absolutely terrible. I guess IceFrog was drunk when he was making those changes.

TheMusiC

United States1054 Posts

February 08 2008 05:52 GMT

#989

lol so dispersion is bugged

hint: culling blade

TheMusiC

United States1054 Posts

February 08 2008 06:32 GMT

#990

oh, .50b is out. i'm guessing they fixed it ;(

paper

13196 Posts

February 08 2008 08:05 GMT

#991

krobelus (w/ witchcraft) + S&Y + Eul's + BoT = HASTE

We Are Here

Australia1810 Posts

February 08 2008 08:46 GMT

#992

lol what happens if you add yasha? or is haste the fastest possible

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13196 Posts

February 08 2008 08:46 GMT

#993

hahaha haste is 522, but good idea

+1 yasha FTW

BlueRoyaL

United States2493 Posts

February 08 2008 08:49 GMT

#994

lol i remember in a joke game long time ago i was playing lina and i got bot sny yasha and necro i was fucking fast ;D

paper

13196 Posts

February 08 2008 08:56 GMT

#995

O SHIT + NECRO + HELM OF DOMINATOR FOR MEEPO CREEP

BLAZING FAST

{ToT}Strafe

Thailand7026 Posts

February 08 2008 09:42 GMT

#996

lvl 5 dagon ftw

rpf

United States2705 Posts

February 08 2008 15:04 GMT

#997

So what's the starting gold at now per each mode? I just noticed the starting gold is different, but I don't know by how much.

Southlight

United States11768 Posts

February 08 2008 15:21 GMT

#998

It's how much gold you normally end up with prior to the creep waves. If you remember, previously you started out with slightly less, but the gold income began early also. Now, you get that amount of gold, and the gold income only starts when the first creep wave launches. It just saves you some time (for those like me that sometimes sat back to squeeze another item out of the gold).

rpf

United States2705 Posts

February 08 2008 15:24 GMT

#999

Ah, I used to do that. In -AP if I wanted two circlets and two tangoes I'd wait until 1:31, which is one second after creeps leave your base, to buy the second circlet. That could be bad as, even though you were guaranteed to miss experience from one creep, if the person you're laning with auto attacks their creeps you could miss the entire first wave. ;;