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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 22:08:09
January 30 2012 22:04 GMT
#32441
On January 31 2012 06:01 Boblion wrote:
You can't win mid with a ranged hero vs tremble right ?


You can just buy wards of revelation (or make support buy them for you) and you should be OK against him with someone like Flint or Soul Stealer (or any hero who has decent AoE nuke to farm + hurt Tremble and then just chase him away with autoattacks and get extra farm from mounds). But that's just my noobish theorycrafting.

Edit: Although come to think of it, Silencer might be an option too. Deny him mana and you deny mounds and make sure he can't summon the pet at 6 so easily.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
BlueRoyaL
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
United States2493 Posts
January 30 2012 22:15 GMT
#32442
yeah you're definately gonna need wards.

ive always thought that pyro was one of the strongest mids against melee heroes.

whenever tremble comes up to lasthit, you can just stun and harass the shit out of him.

only problem with tremble though is you have to be very good at harassing, staying out of creep agro etc. he gets so much life back from his auto attacks and the mounds, so maybe it wont work i dunno
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 30 2012 22:23 GMT
#32443
Tremble is beat by wards or just making mid lane a 2v1 lane so you can take down the mounds no problem. Outside of that there are a few heroes that have a easy time against tremble, pred, damp real life steal wins nigasz, heroes with good aoe stuns and nukes like pyro or ss etc. Escapes work well aganist tremble too, i mean hag blinking he's not gonna get hag just blink correctly and expect stupid dives at lvl 6. EW also rapes tremble buy a ward hang back lay traps stand on trap lol as he gets stuck.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-30 22:25:17
January 30 2012 22:24 GMT
#32444
Played vs him with Flint (without wards) and i got completly destroyed. I was like barely above 100gpm. Couldn't get any CK or denies. He hits so hard with the hatchet, you are never able to get the last hit. Then at level 6 he started to tower dive and i got even more behind lol.

Definitly gonna try with some rev wards if i have to play him again.
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 30 2012 22:30 GMT
#32445
Flint is still pretty bad against him, sorta like a dev vs tb mid match up tb get hooked it's gg. Same deal unless you kill him 1 2 times he just waits for lvl 6 then will tower dive on you cuz shutter is his bitch.
AndyJay
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia833 Posts
January 30 2012 22:46 GMT
#32446
Yeah when I'm tremble I don't think I'm ever scared of any ranged hero. You just get so much regen sitting in mound, you have excellent last hitting damage and kill potential on any low hp hero from lvl 3 onwards. If I had to go against him mid I'd take pred or tide or if it had to be ranged probably dr repulser.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 00:08:35
January 31 2012 00:07 GMT
#32447
If you're going the hellflower + shards route with Flint you should be pretty ok with some wards. Killing his mounds at extreme ranges and harassing the shit out of him with flare. Even if you don't have wards you should still be able to farm quite OK with flares. I can't be sure though, didn't have all that much experience with Tremble to feel confident enough on ways that counter him 100%.
Would Jera or Elec work solo vs him? Would Pharaoh? This are some of the top contenders for solo melee lanes. Even Pesti should be fine. He has nice AoE stun and at 6 T can't hide in mounds any more.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 00:15:11
January 31 2012 00:10 GMT
#32448
Ranged heroes are generally a bad pick against Tremble mid. A few exceptions are slither, trade hp with him and he either has to buy stupid amounts of regen or leave the lane. Torturer, skip impalement use third skill to help cs and pull him in to stun. Silhouette, hard matchup, easier for the Tremble but you can come out even, use your passive and prehit creeps to increase your damage for last hitting.

Flint is a really bad pick against Tremble and for mid in general imo.

Would Jera or Elec work solo vs him? Would Pharaoh? This are some of the top contenders for solo melee lanes. Even Pesti should be fine. He has nice AoE stun and at 6 T can't hide in mounds any more.


Jere, Ele and Pharaoh would all come out at least evenly against him, those matchups would be more decided by player skill than anything. Pesti not so much, Tremble could just play aggressive and presti can only stun twice before he runs out of mana then he won't have much of a response, he won't get forced out of the lane but Tremble would get more farm.
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 31 2012 00:15 GMT
#32449
On January 31 2012 09:07 Manit0u wrote:
If you're going the hellflower + shards route with Flint you should be pretty ok with some wards. Killing his mounds at extreme ranges and harassing the shit out of him with flare. Even if you don't have wards you should still be able to farm quite OK with flares. I can't be sure though, didn't have all that much experience with Tremble to feel confident enough on ways that counter him 100%.
Would Jera or Elec work solo vs him? Would Pharaoh? This are some of the top contenders for solo melee lanes. Even Pesti should be fine. He has nice AoE stun and at 6 T can't hide in mounds any more.

well i always build tremble into a tank, when i go that rout unless you can burst me down you're not going to kill me i'm just going to run and heal up pretty quickly with hp items and the mounds and then repeat wearing you down. pharo and pesti could do fine against him but not beat him mid solo. Heroes like pred beat him because pred can just pretty much ignore him while farming mid lane and compete for last hits pretty well. Elec works out, i think repulsor beats tremble too, never seen a jere mid but i guess all that would matter is if tremble slow apples though the shield to which i don't remember.
WritersBlock
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada91 Posts
January 31 2012 00:27 GMT
#32450
Easiest way to deal with tremble is to just run dual mid vs him. Alternatively you need heroes that can out last hit him / regen as well as him, Zephyr, pred, elec are all strong choices, deadwood can do fairly well vs him, ra might do ok haven't played that match up. I'm not sure how well phar or jerry would do, jerry might do ok but I would think phar would get run over hes more suited for suicide solo lane. On a side note I usually do well vs him on cd but I've seen a lot of people fail at it so maybe its just me.
wonderwall
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
New Zealand695 Posts
January 31 2012 01:03 GMT
#32451
Jere is really really strong in 1v1 meele matchups as his healbomb makes trading hp really efficient for him. Go Max heal and slow with a rank of repel at 4 or when you need it. Just trade auto attacks and when you are both low healbomb on him, slow aura means he cant kite you and once you get ring of sorc nothing can push you out of the lane.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17712 Posts
January 31 2012 02:02 GMT
#32452
Jerry is like SO stronk rite nao anyway. Fits into many matchups and his teamfight turnaround potential is pretty much unsurpassed. He can handle 1v1 and sometimes even 1v2 lanes decently and just be a pain in the ass for the opposing team (has anyone seen UNGL Germany vs Australia games?) the entire game. You need to really gank him hard, this way he at least won't get too many items, but then you're not ganking enemy carry. Oh, the mindgames.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
rob.au
Profile Joined May 2010
1087 Posts
January 31 2012 11:35 GMT
#32453
Tremble can just counter your ward and it costs him relatively less to do so since he can just get every last hit/deny against you. The only hero I've done ok with against tremble is zephyr, but I think tremble beats him if played right.
Antimage
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada1293 Posts
January 31 2012 16:13 GMT
#32454
in one game i had a teammate play valk solo vs tremble. he barely got outfarmed (got atk dmg items for better last hitting) and he tried to get the lane pushed against us for easier farming. You don't have to necessarily beat him, but just need to nto feed him and not make it too easy to farm.
r00ster84
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada11 Posts
January 31 2012 17:29 GMT
#32455
Hey guys,

I was just wondering if there is a site like TL for the HoN community. When HoN became free-to-play I decided to check it out and while it has been fun I feel like I just don't 'get' the game.

Would you guys know of any good resources for beginning HoN players?


Thanks =)
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17712 Posts
January 31 2012 17:39 GMT
#32456
I urge you to read through this thread. There are sources to guides and a lot of great advice in it popping from time to time. I'm too lazy now to dig it all up (I did a couple of times and one more would be one too many). I believe that starting since page 1500 (or maybe even 1600 to get a hang on most recent stuff) will be good for start.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 17:40:58
January 31 2012 17:39 GMT
#32457
On February 01 2012 02:29 r00ster84 wrote:
Hey guys,

I was just wondering if there is a site like TL for the HoN community. When HoN became free-to-play I decided to check it out and while it has been fun I feel like I just don't 'get' the game.

Would you guys know of any good resources for beginning HoN players?


Thanks =)

Buy a Brazilian flag with silver coins because the best HoN players are from Brazil (HoN is like soccer or MMA).
Insta pick Scout because it is by far the best hero in the game.
Get kills ! Don't worry too much about the MMR, the true proof of your skill will always be the K/D !

Never buy wards coz u not a bitch yO~ (and you are scout anyway)
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
WritersBlock
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada91 Posts
January 31 2012 18:46 GMT
#32458
On February 01 2012 02:29 r00ster84 wrote:
Hey guys,

I was just wondering if there is a site like TL for the HoN community. When HoN became free-to-play I decided to check it out and while it has been fun I feel like I just don't 'get' the game.

Would you guys know of any good resources for beginning HoN players?


Thanks =)


Basic Decision making guide:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=376077

Animation canceling and orb walking:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=196796

Natural Juke locations that can save you now and then:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=6514

Comprehensive warding guide(You should be forced to read this before you start to play ^.^):
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=255280

Lane phase guide covers basic mechanics:
http://forums.heroesofnewerth.com/showthread.php?t=2625
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
January 31 2012 23:03 GMT
#32459
Patriot bubbles vs Kunznya Blacksmith who wins?
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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17712 Posts
January 31 2012 23:05 GMT
#32460
On February 01 2012 08:03 semantics wrote:
Patriot bubbles vs Kunznya Blacksmith who wins?
[image loading]


I just died a little inside.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
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