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canikizu
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r33k
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semantics
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r33k
Italy3402 Posts
On August 19 2011 13:23 bkrow wrote: Tralf rocking a vRs tag? Did i miss something, somewhere? He was in sgty so he moved over with the team. Wtf is up with the boards moving around on the sidebar, now I have to scroll down to find this thread. And why is this section called calendar anyways. | ||
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paper
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On August 19 2011 15:23 semantics wrote: dota hon needs its own section now that sports adn games are seperate lol hardly ;o | ||
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SK.Testie
Canada11084 Posts
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wooozy
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Crimson
United States311 Posts
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
On August 19 2011 14:27 doktorLucifer wrote: OK, so some questions about torturer play. He obviously has a lot of good options and can be built a few different ways, but when laning mid vs dev... what build should I use? Should be really aggressive? Should I be pumping the impalement vs dev? How about vs soulstealer? I read somewhere that aggressive play vs soulstealer is necessary, since he just beats you if you try to compete in a passive last-hitting game.. Vs devo I would level impalement first to max (ofc start with stun so skill 1-2-2-3-2-2-3-3-3-1-1-1-4-4-stats-4, i don't like his ulti till first big item but w/e thats up for debate, you can get it @ lvl 10&11 as well)). This allows you to have runecontrol, because impalement is pretty good on solo heroes in river, and being a ranged hero vs devo you should shut his farm down anyway. Vs soulstealer I would max agonizing bond, then stun, then impale starting with 1 lvl stun ofc. The thing with soulstealer is a good soulstealer will play pretty passive, not really allowing you to nuke him down. However, with his low hp and your own stun + nuke he is a really easy target to gank with a teammate. So get that magmus/rampage/behe/witch/insertrandomstunnerhere to move his ass and score some freekills on soulstealer. 2 questions: What's the general skilllevel in TL honclan? (i'm kinda tired of matchmaking putting me with ppl 250 mmr lower :<) And are there any euro in houses/matchmakings going on through there? | ||
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Alur
Denmark3900 Posts
On August 19 2011 16:38 Schwopzi wrote: Vs devo I would level impalement first to max (ofc start with stun so skill 1-2-2-3-2-2-3-3-3-1-1-1-4-4-stats-4, i don't like his ulti till first big item but w/e thats up for debate, you can get it @ lvl 10&11 as well)). This allows you to have runecontrol, because impalement is pretty good on solo heroes in river, and being a ranged hero vs devo you should shut his farm down anyway. Vs soulstealer I would max agonizing bond, then stun, then impale starting with 1 lvl stun ofc. The thing with soulstealer is a good soulstealer will play pretty passive, not really allowing you to nuke him down. However, with his low hp and your own stun + nuke he is a really easy target to gank with a teammate. So get that magmus/rampage/behe/witch/insertrandomstunnerhere to move his ass and score some freekills on soulstealer. 2 questions: What's the general skilllevel in TL honclan? (i'm kinda tired of matchmaking putting me with ppl 250 mmr lower :<) And are there any euro in houses/matchmakings going on through there? The majority is around 1400-1750, a couple of 1800+ players there too. But I actually think most of the high MMR players associated with TL are not the clan. There are TL inhouses semi-frequently, but most of them are USE afaik. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17614 Posts
And on a tort mid thing: Impalement early kinda sucks, unless your team goes for a push strat. Chain/Bonds is so much more utility, especially when you're going to start ganking. And it beats passive players who like to hang back since you can just bond the ranged creep and you get a decent chance of dragging the hero behind him closer for chain reaction follow-up. | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
Got the singular misfortune of having to play glacius last night in a TL TMM game, and hadn't played him but once before. His ulti, is it like magmus/tort/etc ultis, where you activate it and it just goes off while you do whatever or do you have to be sitting there just waiting for someone to touch you and deactivate it so you can wait 120 seconds to do it again? I also went 3-2-3-2-3-4-3-2-2-4-1-1-1-etc and got told that was bad. So what build do you want on glacius. He seemed like a pretty cool (see what I did thar?) hero to play, with some good potential, but I have no idea what to do with him other than lane with sb and get free kills and assists, transitioning into ward bitch and trying to stun random people. My items were something like striders, two bracers, ring of sorcery, and wards and counter-wards. I would look at random guides, but just comparing two random guides, on, say, hellbringer.......they're like two completely different things, lol. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong place(HoN forums). Is there any good place for solid hero guides? Also random n00b feel good moment. Was solo MM last night with Plague Rider, because the always correct Pokebunny said he was an op support. Well, despite being down in kills, we had raped all their outer towers and were pushing rax. One bad engagement later it was 1 v 3 with me being the 1, with about 70 hp but almost max mana, I was running away like a scared rabbit, when they decided to chase me past their creeps with <50% hp. One ulti and q later, and it's hat trick time, with me gaining 3 levels right there. From there I transitioned into carry plague with ulti stick, and we won the game despite having no real carry, and them having a dampeer with +3 levels on any of us. So I am now an official plague rider fan. | ||
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doktorLucifer
United States855 Posts
On August 19 2011 17:00 Manit0u wrote: There are some of us EU players there too. But we still play on USE servers since Americans get all bitchy and whiny when they have even the slightest delay... And on a tort mid thing: Impalement early kinda sucks, unless your team goes for a push strat. Chain/Bonds is so much more utility, especially when you're going to start ganking. And it beats passive players who like to hang back since you can just bond the ranged creep and you get a decent chance of dragging the hero behind him closer for chain reaction follow-up. I've been thinking this, too. Esp since the pull into stun really can't be followed up with any sort of impalement unless I'm committing for a kill attempt. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
1233343111422254 most of the time, after lv7 1 and 2 are interchangeable tho pretty much every single support hero ever: flying courier > wards > tp > boots > mana battery > treads or striders > power supply later tablet and/or astrolabe, maybe idol or stormspirit void tali, energizer, abyssal are good too but generally less preferred | ||
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Sm3agol
United States2055 Posts
On August 19 2011 21:44 Dead9 wrote: ulti is channeling 1233343111422254 most of the time, after lv7 1 and 2 are interchangeable tho pretty much every single support hero ever: flying courier > wards > tp > boots > mana battery > treads or striders > power supply later tablet and/or astrolabe, maybe idol or stormspirit void tali, energizer, abyssal are good too but generally less preferred Oh yeah, forgot to mention I had power supply. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On August 19 2011 15:54 wooozy wrote: why my sports and games section all the way down here now less mod traffic :D | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On August 19 2011 17:00 Manit0u wrote: There are some of us EU players there too. But we still play on USE servers since Americans get all bitchy and whiny when they have even the slightest delay... And on a tort mid thing: Impalement early kinda sucks, unless your team goes for a push strat. Chain/Bonds is so much more utility, especially when you're going to start ganking. And it beats passive players who like to hang back since you can just bond the ranged creep and you get a decent chance of dragging the hero behind him closer for chain reaction follow-up. It depends though. Impalement is really effective as it allows you to play aggressively knowing that if you have to get to melee battle, you'll own them, especially melee or short range heroes. | ||
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semantics
10040 Posts
So what we are at the back of the bus/classroom now? | ||
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semantics
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+ Show Spoiler + Version 2.1.4 ----------- - The current Free Heroes have changed. The current available list is: * Soulstealer * Silhouette * Defiler * Gladiator * Tremble * Devourer * Pestilence * Magmus * Blacksmith * Pebbles * Rampage * Pollywog Priest * Nymphora * Andromeda * Vindicator - Fixed a duplicate bug with Guides - Ingame levelup effects now delayed slightly - Added spectator chat ignore checkbox in the Spec UI - Updated minimalist options for spec UI - Healing radius of the Wells increased to better match the actual water - Tree of Life and Sacrifical Shrine now have truesight == NPCs == - Fixed sound bug with the bad range(warlocks) NPCS death sound not playing. - Added death sounds to the good range(archers). - Kongor * Fixed the faction, non-player-controlled units giving the team 0 gold when they land the killing blow from Kongor. * Now if a non-player controlled unit lands the killing blow on Kongor, then it gives 230 gold to the team (before it was giving 0) == Items == - Re-ordered components for all recipe items so the most expensive items come first. This makes right clicking on an item in the store more useful and less dumb - All teams now start with a basic Ground Courier by default - Bottle is no longer refilled when held by a Courier - Shieldbreaker: Increased damage by 10 per level from 30/45/60 to 40/55/70 and ignore's the target's Deflection when you attack them * Deflection is the damage blocked by items like Helm of the Black Legion and Iron Shield - Alchemist Bones' timer is now paused while the hero is dead == Heroes == - Added a new Alt Avatar: Frost Rider Arachna - Movespeed from 290 to 295 Dark Lady - Dark Blades cooldown from 22/18/14/10 to 16/14/12/10 - Charging Strikes cooldown from 21/17/13/9 to 15/13/11/9 Drunken Master - Drink rescaled to channel for 2 seconds, gaining 2/4/6/8 charges per second. Upon enemy death in 500 AoE, he gains 2/4/6/8 charges - Stagger deals 50% more damage to creeps Gauntlet - Infernal Instability now gives 50% mana back if you do not attack anything. Keeper of the Forest - Treant Dogs are now limited to 2/3/4/5 max. If you summon more than the max the oldest ones will automatically die - Treant Dogs can no longer attack Towers if they are more than 800 units away from the Keeper - Fixed scripting to be better Magebane - Master of Mantra aura increased from 600 to 800 Monkey King - Starting Stength increased by 2 - Flying Nimbus activation removed. Is now a full passive with a 5 second cooldown that will automatically trigger when not taking damage == Bugfixes == Andromeda - Fixed Aurora affector speed & lifetime so it matches the visuals Dampeer - Fixed his Bloodthirst aura so it stacks with Harkon's Blade, Webbed Shot and Master's Incantation Defiler - Fixed a bug where she can super deny allies & herself Demented Shaman - Fixed scripting so Unbreakable is more robust against odd frame situations (healing 2 times in 1 frame, etc.) Doctor Repulsor - Fixed Opposite Charges so it plays the link - Optimized Magnetic Contraption a bit - Fixed Portal Key exploit Drunken Master - Fixed the double-activate bug on Lunge where it can deal 2x the push and 2x the damage - Fixed Lunge bug where it was teleporting Drunken Master to (0,0) - Fixed Lunge bug when you play animations after dead (again) - Fixed Lunge's push affecting invulnerable units - Fixed Untouchable's "HIC!" sound not playing at the correct times on levels 1 & 2 Emerald Warden - Fixed a small visual bug where the large vine model was lingering too long at lower levels of Overgrowth - Fixed Gawain using Diving Strikes when he's dead - Fixed a super-duper rare bug where he gets glitched after respawn when Gawain attempts to use Forest's Touch on the same frame he dies Empath - Now doesn't follow her last queued action after she gets out of someone - Fixed a visual bug where the wall visual was expiring 1 second before the real wall expired - Fixed Essence Link so it does DOT damage now Engineer - Passing through the Energy Field will now automatically break channelling if it hits you - Made Spider Mines have 0 cast time Legionnaire - Made Whirling Blade proc on fountain attacks - Fixed a small animation bug where he would still be in charging animation if the skill cancels via the distance check Magmus - Fixed an issue with Eruption's idle animation and the effects Moraxus - Made More Axes blockable via Arcane Shield and Untouchable Myrmidon - Weed field now breaks Succubus' Mesmerize - Fixed a bug where Carp would stun you if you were rooted or immobilized and had a movement order queued up Parasite - Fixed him teleporting to the target's location if the target dies before the Infest projectile impacts - Fixed the Parasite - Gauntlet ult bug Pharaoh - Fixed a small spawn location bug with his Wrath of the Pharaoh if he turns 90 degrees; it now spawns in the correct position relative to Pharaoh & the target Rhapsody - Fixed a bug where the DoT from Disco Inferno wasn't being applied if an enemy was stunned inside Sand Wraith - Fixed his passive AOE triggering Nomad's ultimate and canceling Succubus' Mesmerize Slither - Fixed a small issue with Poison Spray target cursor not highlighting the correct targets Wretched Hag - Fixed an extremely rare bug with Bat Blast's cone visual | ||
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Am0n3r
United States254 Posts
On August 19 2011 21:23 Sm3agol wrote: A few more random n00b questions.......hopefully you don't mind answering them. Got the singular misfortune of having to play glacius last night in a TL TMM game, and hadn't played him but once before. His ulti, is it like magmus/tort/etc ultis, where you activate it and it just goes off while you do whatever or do you have to be sitting there just waiting for someone to touch you and deactivate it so you can wait 120 seconds to do it again? I also went 3-2-3-2-3-4-3-2-2-4-1-1-1-etc and got told that was bad. So what build do you want on glacius. He seemed like a pretty cool (see what I did thar?) hero to play, with some good potential, but I have no idea what to do with him other than lane with sb and get free kills and assists, transitioning into ward bitch and trying to stun random people. My items were something like striders, two bracers, ring of sorcery, and wards and counter-wards. I would look at random guides, but just comparing two random guides, on, say, hellbringer.......they're like two completely different things, lol. Maybe I'm looking at the wrong place(HoN forums). Is there any good place for solid hero guides? Also random n00b feel good moment. Was solo MM last night with Plague Rider, because the always correct Pokebunny said he was an op support. Well, despite being down in kills, we had raped all their outer towers and were pushing rax. One bad engagement later it was 1 v 3 with me being the 1, with about 70 hp but almost max mana, I was running away like a scared rabbit, when they decided to chase me past their creeps with <50% hp. One ulti and q later, and it's hat trick time, with me gaining 3 levels right there. From there I transitioned into carry plague with ulti stick, and we won the game despite having no real carry, and them having a dampeer with +3 levels on any of us. So I am now an official plague rider fan. If the team fight is over and you still have your ult, you did something wrong. Next time use your ult beginning/mid of the fight. This changes the outcome of the game. As well as you dont be afraid to lose games, take this opportunity as a learning chance where you can experience every hero and every build. Once you do that, you can start carrying about your rank, but in reality HoN's system is pretty good in matching you with people of equal skill so enjoy the game. If you are playing a support prepare to be a ward-bitch, no joking, if thats what it takes to win the game, be prepared to do that. The top builds for glacius are pretty good, just stick with them, and make sure you are active in a team fight, slow, freeze, ult, ult is done slow and freeze again. Glacius is a very weak and fragile hero, but yet he by himself can change the out come of the game. Since mana is already given, concentrate on survivability and then support. Mechanism is not a bad item to get, Nome's wisdom is not a bad item to get, that totem/book looking thing that leaps you forward... Sometimes sheepstick, whirlwindy thing or portal key is not a bad way to go | ||
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