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Alventenie
Profile Joined July 2007
United States2147 Posts
March 28 2011 03:23 GMT
#24321
Yes you do. Once you reach a high enough level where you need to play a more specialized role, having a team is the only way to really become a better player. Could you imagine being a team initiator/ganker if your team never carried tps/went in after you knowing you would do your job? Or being a support player who keeps the map warded/game going in the right direction but eventually lose because the carry you let farm half the game has no items. Eventually you have to have others to depend on to get stuff done because you can't do it all.

My personal role is that i enjoy babysitters/support/gankers. If i play a babysitter and have no cs but ward the entire game and get my spells off in team fights, im doing decent, but if the carry i babysat gets picked off because of being retarded mid game and has no items come late game, all of what i did is for nothing, and now im just a liability to my team rather than someone who is supporting well.
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
March 28 2011 03:50 GMT
#24322
On March 28 2011 12:23 Alventenie wrote:
Yes you do. Once you reach a high enough level where you need to play a more specialized role, having a team is the only way to really become a better player. Could you imagine being a team initiator/ganker if your team never carried tps/went in after you knowing you would do your job? Or being a support player who keeps the map warded/game going in the right direction but eventually lose because the carry you let farm half the game has no items. Eventually you have to have others to depend on to get stuff done because you can't do it all.

My personal role is that i enjoy babysitters/support/gankers. If i play a babysitter and have no cs but ward the entire game and get my spells off in team fights, im doing decent, but if the carry i babysat gets picked off because of being retarded mid game and has no items come late game, all of what i did is for nothing, and now im just a liability to my team rather than someone who is supporting well.


Here's when solo matchmaking really comes down to who you get matched with

there are the solo players that understand this, so you basically have 5 players who understand their own role -> bam everyone knows what to do and you have a team for one game

really love when it happens cuz it shows how the hon community isn't all fags that want to play carry but there are actually cool ppl out there
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 28 2011 03:52 GMT
#24323
On March 28 2011 12:50 OmgIRok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 12:23 Alventenie wrote:
Yes you do. Once you reach a high enough level where you need to play a more specialized role, having a team is the only way to really become a better player. Could you imagine being a team initiator/ganker if your team never carried tps/went in after you knowing you would do your job? Or being a support player who keeps the map warded/game going in the right direction but eventually lose because the carry you let farm half the game has no items. Eventually you have to have others to depend on to get stuff done because you can't do it all.

My personal role is that i enjoy babysitters/support/gankers. If i play a babysitter and have no cs but ward the entire game and get my spells off in team fights, im doing decent, but if the carry i babysat gets picked off because of being retarded mid game and has no items come late game, all of what i did is for nothing, and now im just a liability to my team rather than someone who is supporting well.


Here's when solo matchmaking really comes down to who you get matched with

there are the solo players that understand this, so you basically have 5 players who understand their own role -> bam everyone knows what to do and you have a team for one game

really love when it happens cuz it shows how the hon community isn't all fags that want to play carry but there are actually cool ppl out there

does anybody actually understand their own role...?
think about it...

its just like the metagame...
think about it...
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Entertaining
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada793 Posts
March 28 2011 04:20 GMT
#24324
i was supporting a predator, gave him blood lust, full lane control, stacked camps/ancients even built an abysal skull for him. only to find him build ghost marchers hotbl and shruken head. then proceeded to get out carried by a swift blade.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
March 28 2011 04:20 GMT
#24325
do all the high level players use warkeys or numpad or something to use items in dota
i dont really know how to get everything off in less than a second like i see in pro games
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
March 28 2011 04:28 GMT
#24326
Is it really that hard?

Well perhaps if you need to get off all your skills and all your items at once but that's very very rare.
Stuck.
tube
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1475 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-28 04:31:41
March 28 2011 04:30 GMT
#24327
well you have to move your cursor to the bottom right for each item
and if you have like ethereal blade>wave>dagon>adaptive on morphling pub style thennn
Two in harmony surpasses one in perfection.
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7582 Posts
March 28 2011 04:37 GMT
#24328
You mean to activate items?

Alt+q/w/e/a/s/d?
Stuck.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
March 28 2011 04:37 GMT
#24329
trying to click on your shit is retarded. either get warkeys or something to make other hotkeys or, if you have a mouse with extra buttons, bind those buttons to numpad.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
March 28 2011 04:37 GMT
#24330
any1 want to play some inhouse games?
You can't fight the feeling.
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
March 28 2011 04:37 GMT
#24331
On March 28 2011 13:20 Entertaining wrote:
i was supporting a predator, gave him blood lust, full lane control, stacked camps/ancients even built an abysal skull for him. only to find him build ghost marchers hotbl and shruken head. then proceeded to get out carried by a swift blade.


Those items aren't even that bad. Should be enough for a sb with the same farm.
A cookiecutter sb has runed axe and maybe frostburn at that moment.
I'd say you probably left something out.

Also abyssal skull is bad. Can't imagine any supporter getting that ever.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
March 28 2011 04:38 GMT
#24332
On March 28 2011 13:20 tube wrote:
do all the high level players use warkeys or numpad or something to use items in dota
i dont really know how to get everything off in less than a second like i see in pro games


i personally use warkeys, i think my setup is kinda stupid tho lol

i changed my 123456 on keyboard to 784512 on numpad
u can't use the shift+# signs (like !@#$%) in-game and u can't use all the numbers :p (can't use 3,6)
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
Ganfei2
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
473 Posts
March 28 2011 04:47 GMT
#24333
On March 28 2011 13:37 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:20 Entertaining wrote:
i was supporting a predator, gave him blood lust, full lane control, stacked camps/ancients even built an abysal skull for him. only to find him build ghost marchers hotbl and shruken head. then proceeded to get out carried by a swift blade.


Those items aren't even that bad. Should be enough for a sb with the same farm.
A cookiecutter sb has runed axe and maybe frostburn at that moment.
I'd say you probably left something out.

Also abyssal skull is bad. Can't imagine any supporter getting that ever.


wat. Those items are terrible. You'd never stack so much survivability on predator unless you're facing a 100% early game 100% nuke team.
Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
March 28 2011 04:58 GMT
#24334
On March 28 2011 13:47 Ganfei2 wrote:
wat. Those items are terrible. You'd never stack so much survivability on predator unless you're facing a 100% early game 100% nuke team.

The HotBL is probably overdoing it, but nothing wrong with getting Shrunken on Predator IMO.

And Abyssal Skull is a fine item but in a weird way - you get it on a support and you'll probably just die anyway and the effect for your carry is lost. Get it on a carry and you could almost always be spending your gold in a better way. I did go it one game where we had a Swift and NH and I was Armadon, failing a lot and not with awesome farm but I wouldn't get instagibbed and could thus stick around to let the carries pull through, seemed fine.
The original Bogus fan.
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
March 28 2011 04:58 GMT
#24335
On March 28 2011 13:38 OmgIRok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:20 tube wrote:
do all the high level players use warkeys or numpad or something to use items in dota
i dont really know how to get everything off in less than a second like i see in pro games


i personally use warkeys, i think my setup is kinda stupid tho lol

i changed my 123456 on keyboard to 784512 on numpad
u can't use the shift+# signs (like !@#$%) in-game and u can't use all the numbers :p (can't use 3,6)

lol SexU.
Program it so that you can turn it on and off in game by pressing a button.
Thats what I do.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
March 28 2011 05:01 GMT
#24336
On March 28 2011 13:58 don_kyuhote wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:38 OmgIRok wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:20 tube wrote:
do all the high level players use warkeys or numpad or something to use items in dota
i dont really know how to get everything off in less than a second like i see in pro games


i personally use warkeys, i think my setup is kinda stupid tho lol

i changed my 123456 on keyboard to 784512 on numpad
u can't use the shift+# signs (like !@#$%) in-game and u can't use all the numbers :p (can't use 3,6)

lol SexU.
Program it so that you can turn it on and off in game by pressing a button.
Thats what I do.


lol the button for it is scroll lock and it doesn't even matter that much in game that i can't use exclamation mark or the number 3
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
don_kyuhote
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
3006 Posts
March 28 2011 05:07 GMT
#24337
Once upon a time, Reaper117 tried to program it so that when you press a button, it moves the mouse pointer to a item slot, clicks it, and returns that mouse pointer to where it was really fast.
I think that idea got vehemently ridiculed and protested, so he abandoned it.
For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
AntiGrav1ty
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany2310 Posts
March 28 2011 05:15 GMT
#24338
On March 28 2011 13:47 Ganfei2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2011 13:37 AntiGrav1ty wrote:
On March 28 2011 13:20 Entertaining wrote:
i was supporting a predator, gave him blood lust, full lane control, stacked camps/ancients even built an abysal skull for him. only to find him build ghost marchers hotbl and shruken head. then proceeded to get out carried by a swift blade.


Those items aren't even that bad. Should be enough for a sb with the same farm.
A cookiecutter sb has runed axe and maybe frostburn at that moment.
I'd say you probably left something out.

Also abyssal skull is bad. Can't imagine any supporter getting that ever.


wat. Those items are terrible. You'd never stack so much survivability on predator unless you're facing a 100% early game 100% nuke team.


There are better items for Pred no doubt. I don't like phase boots and hotbl either but at that stage of the game Pred still eats SB for Breakfast if they have the same farm.
www.twitch.tv/antigrav1ty
hideo
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1641 Posts
March 28 2011 05:31 GMT
#24339
Inventory A++ is what I use. Just a simple autohotkey script that maps items to alt + q/w/a/s/z/x.
OmgIRok
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Taiwan2699 Posts
March 28 2011 05:34 GMT
#24340
On March 28 2011 14:07 don_kyuhote wrote:
Once upon a time, Reaper117 tried to program it so that when you press a button, it moves the mouse pointer to a item slot, clicks it, and returns that mouse pointer to where it was really fast.
I think that idea got vehemently ridiculed and protested, so he abandoned it.


Yeah cause u can just click the button for the item (numpad + #) and then click with your mouse duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
"Wanna join my [combo] clan?" "We play turret d competitively"
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