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Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
August 13 2010 13:01 GMT
#20541
On August 13 2010 12:25 rabidch wrote:
Demon left nv.int. Who's going to fill in ;D


Nobody in NA because they would all be downgrades.
Get it by your hands...
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
August 13 2010 13:49 GMT
#20542
IRok showing off his corpse humping skills.
Amnesia
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3818 Posts
August 13 2010 20:17 GMT
#20543
Grouty, if you see this please invite me to TLn !
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-13 21:49:07
August 13 2010 20:59 GMT
#20544
I just checked the 6.68 changelog again, Mek AoE and HP regen buffed so we'll be seeing +7 HP regen aura (instead of +6, wtf midgame pushers, with a big satyr thats +9) abused a hell of a lot more o_o, plus the arcane boots

edit
all this with a headdress (+3 hp regen aura)**
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
August 13 2010 21:13 GMT
#20545
this obv makes 5 mid push strat better.

lets do it every game.
UNFUCK YOURSELF
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
August 13 2010 21:49 GMT
#20546
On August 14 2010 06:13 Nitrogen wrote:
this obv makes 5 mid push strat better.

lets do it every game.


i fully support each and every strategy that results in 5mans as early as possible
gooo bulgaria! (just saw that game the other day . . behind schedule sure, but still awesome)
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 14 2010 03:07 GMT
#20547
some trilane mids are strong enough to ward off 5 man pushes... it just depends... the new cm system makes the whole thing more annoying to pull off imo
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
August 14 2010 03:19 GMT
#20548
Yeah, it requires some stupidly good subtle picking. You can technically get away with it if you pick potential "gank" line ups with a jungler like Enigma and head fake a 4 support + 1 hard carry lineup.

Trying to do this when you don't have last pick isn't recommended since THD/Pitlord can pretty much handle a push line up by themselves and bait your entire team into a mid game what-the-fuck-can-we-do situation where you overpush and they hold a lane.
Get it by your hands...
MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
August 14 2010 03:26 GMT
#20549
You know, I haven't been playing dota in like foreverrr and I kinda have a small craving for it again.

How/where do people play dota nowadays? still on bnet? (there was a pretty good dota channel but I can't remember) Garena?
Aiyeeeee
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 03:38:18
August 14 2010 03:36 GMT
#20550
DotA on B.net is pretty much done all by bots now. There's nothing good in terms of IHLs, pubs are trash in general so unless you like bashing your head in 9 times out of the 10, then you probably want to stay away from b.net unless you know people.

Garena is slightly better in terms of skill but still pretty bad overall. The TL people is probably your best bet to be honest. That is if you can get into their password-protected vent channel to find their asses on Garena to get a game in which I have tried 3 times today.

PS - is etherone on 24/7?
Get it by your hands...
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 14 2010 03:50 GMT
#20551
only thing we do atm is pubstomp. when we can get people. the problem is nobody plays at the same time :/
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
August 14 2010 03:58 GMT
#20552
You (or someone) want to pm me the password so I can actually get in? Or can I pm someone in the channel(s)?
Get it by your hands...
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
August 14 2010 07:29 GMT
#20553
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/35440

awesome dota game. mcity vs ks.nirvana
UNFUCK YOURSELF
Arhkangel
Profile Joined August 2007
Argentina769 Posts
August 14 2010 08:34 GMT
#20554
So after I took a break from HoN to play some EVE with another group of TL guys, and the mandatory SC2 sessions I came back this week and played my first game with the TL crew and during this experience this revelation hit me: How useless and trivial the whole stat system is

For solo play sucks because your rating can be destroyed by a sting of retarded teammates, and for team play (I mean IH style not Clan Wars) it sucks because people are scared to fight a team with even 5% chance of winning...

A ladder for teams like the one SC2 has and keeping IH's and solo play out of it would have been a better choice IMO. Hell even Riot's approach of hidden ELO (that so many people argued against) looks better to me.

It also sucks for the new players because they are either stuck playing with terribles or causing insane amounts of rage.

I don't know it's just a thought/feeling that I developed thru my HoN experiences today.

*I love the new boots and Sniper is pretty cool, but sucks in public games because like people said in the TLn channel, he's gankbait. I look forward to someone owning with it in Clan Wars.


BOOM-HEADSHOT!
Part Time Ninja
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 14 2010 09:41 GMT
#20555
On August 14 2010 16:29 Nitrogen wrote:
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/35440

awesome dota game. mcity vs ks.nirvana

dumb dota game. ;O
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Glull
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Germany404 Posts
August 14 2010 10:16 GMT
#20556
variance is a bitch - but psr still works as an indicator of skill.
the only games where i observed there were less scrubs and ragers is above 1750 psr average games, as you cant get there by owning 1600+ games.
the best way to handle your psr is to completely ignore it as long as it is high enough to join games of a skill you feel comfortable with.
this sentence has no meaning.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
August 14 2010 14:21 GMT
#20557
On August 14 2010 19:16 Glull wrote:
variance is a bitch - but psr still works as an indicator of skill.
the only games where i observed there were less scrubs and ragers is above 1750 psr average games, as you cant get there by owning 1600+ games.
the best way to handle your psr is to completely ignore it as long as it is high enough to join games of a skill you feel comfortable with.
this sentence has no meaning.


PSR/ELO is an illusion of skill, whether you see beyond that number is more indicative of your skill than anything. Then again, people love placing total faith in numbers.

This is a problematic dilemma for games like these. Assuming you play to win every game, you'll be playing pubs differently than organized games depending on what heroes you get.
Get it by your hands...
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
August 14 2010 14:40 GMT
#20558
I think PSR is a good indicator of what it's used for: likelihood of each player/team winning the game. It doesn't say much about real skill, but it is called pub skill rating for a reason.
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JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-14 18:33:55
August 14 2010 18:30 GMT
#20559
psr, win% all are easily inflated by playing locks with people better than you

that said, unless you're extensively getting carried by people who are way better than you into games you shouldn't be in, most of the time, psr and win% are pretty good. i feel confident in saying a 1700 player with an 80% win is better than a 1600 player with a 55% win in most cases
edit: and if the psr difference is large enough, it alone can be pretty good (again barring circumstances like deliberate losing etc). i don't think many people will argue that an 1800 player is likely to be worse than a 1200 player
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Nitrogen
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States5345 Posts
August 14 2010 19:37 GMT
#20560
On August 14 2010 18:41 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2010 16:29 Nitrogen wrote:
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota/replays/35440

awesome dota game. mcity vs ks.nirvana

dumb dota game. ;O


yeah it kinda was, i just thought it was funny that + Show Spoiler +
mcity beat ks.nirvana even after ymt farmed so much rofl
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