ymt got such bad items wtf radiance? shoulda ditched radi and got hotd/vlads and straight to AC or something

oh and the fact that mcity had great teamwork and ks just went around trying to 4v5 with an underfarmed vs and silencer while ymt just riced

Judicator

United States7270 Posts

August 15 2010 02:26 GMT

#20563

vlads, rofl. no carry hero should ever get vlads in a serious game, such a trashy item and waste of an item slot.

On August 15 2010 03:30 JeeJee wrote:
psr, win% all are easily inflated by playing locks with people better than you

that said, unless you're extensively getting carried by people who are way better than you into games you shouldn't be in, most of the time, psr and win% are pretty good. i feel confident in saying a 1700 player with an 80% win is better than a 1600 player with a 55% win in most cases
edit: and if the psr difference is large enough, it alone can be pretty good (again barring circumstances like deliberate losing etc). i don't think many people will argue that an 1800 player is likely to be worse than a 1200 player

See the problem with that is when people get it in their heads that X player should be at some arbitrary Y skill level and they don't let go of it. PSR and ELO just makes it so much easier to say yeah it makes sense to that literal bullshit.

Wholesaleun

China3 Posts

August 15 2010 03:56 GMT

#20564

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OmgIRok

Taiwan2699 Posts

August 15 2010 04:25 GMT

#20565

Aw I missed his post before it got nuked..

I didn't really mean vlads, but that radiance was just like a waste of 5k ..

why is vlads such a bad item in a serious game? o.O on melee carries u can get an orb with vlads so its like yea :o

Judicator

United States7270 Posts

August 15 2010 04:46 GMT

#20566

Because someone else on your team should get it, it adds diddly squat for 2k gold, for 400 more you can get a demon edge which means a buriza or an mkb or a hyperstone for that curiass.

The best late game item (cost effective wise) for a support is a Ring of a Basilius if it wasn't made, for 500 gold you get +3 armor for everyone which is fucking huge, that's 500 out of the 2k already so the natural progression helps it later on when there are more creeps.

If you're smart about your item progression on some heroes, how much do orbs really matter? Deso/Diffusal not that common outside of specific instances, Skadi/Helm of Dom stacks on ranged, SnY stacks with Skadi, Mjol is rarely seen (and god awful). Orb conflicts doesn't show up as much as you think. There's very little reason to get Vlads at all for any line up, it's just so pointless most of the time.

rabidch

United States20289 Posts

August 15 2010 04:52 GMT

#20567

yea vlads in serious games should be given to supports, BM is not uncommon

RoB is really abused not even late game but early game for aggressive pushing and it's always in Chinese trilanes.

Judicator

United States7270 Posts

August 16 2010 03:13 GMT

#20568

Okay, so do Chinese teams lose their fucking minds once the game moves beyond the 40-45 min mark? I am watching some Asian replays right now, get into the Chinese ones, and it's like nice plans, nice strategies, nice execution, come 40 mins its like how to trade your carries for supports in team fights while trying to beast down a 67c Medusa with cover, or how to not play a team fight VS and get initiated to death.

Pokebunny

United States10654 Posts

August 16 2010 04:12 GMT

#20569

Does anyone know who Lorelei is on HoN? I'd like officer in TLn so we had an active officer who's also a tl veteran, it's very hard for people to get into the TLn clan atm.

Gandalf

Pakistan1905 Posts

August 16 2010 04:44 GMT

#20570

Lorelei is Insane on this site.

Nitrogen

United States5345 Posts

August 16 2010 20:21 GMT

#20571

so lmnop/alv/testie/ether/speedoh/kelly and i have been playing warlocks on garena a little the last couple days. more people should come play. more people = more hilarity.

rabidch

United States20289 Posts

August 16 2010 20:29 GMT

#20572

i hate warlocks :[

Nitrogen

United States5345 Posts

August 16 2010 20:34 GMT

#20573

you love warcocks and you know it

paper

13197 Posts

August 16 2010 20:45 GMT

#20574

On August 17 2010 05:21 Nitrogen wrote:
so lmnop/alv/testie/ether/speedoh/kelly and i have been playing warlocks on garena a little the last couple days. more people should come play. more people = more hilarity.

so everyone on earth has been playing sc2 on b.net a lot for the last couple weeks. more people should come play. more people = more hilarity.