On December 11 2007 06:24 Stegosaur wrote: These are pretty nice to watch =) SSB is a pretty decent fighter underneath all the partygameness and random factors (which are cool btw). Will Brawl be as good without wavedashing?
Wavedashing is not needed by every character, nor is it needed in general.
Aniki ( best link in the world) does not use it, and if he does its once in a blue moon. Ganondorf used by DarkRain (top ganon's in the world) does not use it
It all depends on characters, sure you can say everyone NEEDS to use it, but truth is they don't.
darkrain doesn't use ganon he uses falcon as his main. most ganon that i've seen l-cancel. I main falcon and can totally see a difference when I l-cancel. My favorite combo of all time. Both by darkrain
We recently held two SSBM tournaments at my university (one "fun" and one "hardcore"). We have only a handful of high-level players. If you're curious, you can see some of the "hardcore" matches here, but don't expect much .
As for myself, I enjoy SSBM but prefer SF3: Third Strike. I don't own SSBM and play at most once every few months, but if some of my matches from our "fun" tournament got recorded then I'll post one so that people can see how much I suck .
^ i was going to go but i had a feeling people would bitch about wobbling (i don't see the rules ban it but that's probably due to the fact they didn't know about it?) and drama is nothx
someone told me that world's best in melee use m2. is that true? he seems too slow and cant defend that well vs very aerial char. anyways, where can i find vid's of world champs or (if they exist) professionals?
On December 12 2007 04:06 homeless_guy wrote: someone told me that world's best in melee use m2. is that true? he seems too slow and cant defend that well vs very aerial char. anyways, where can i find vid's of world champs or (if they exist) professionals?
no it's not
mew2king was "best" for awhile because ken and koreandj stopped playing. mew2king may now be better than ken, but dj is better than mew2king (beat him recently after not having gone to a major tourney for 6 months)
Mewtwo is horrible. Look up "SSBM tier list" on google and you'll see the ranks from best to worst. It was created by top players so its more accurate than what your buddy told you.
I never actually got into wavedashing,l-canceling, etc. because the scene here is practically non-existant (And when it still existed I didnt have ssbm yet) But I'm decent with falco anyway (or so I think.)
On December 12 2007 04:06 homeless_guy wrote: someone told me that world's best in melee use m2. is that true? he seems too slow and cant defend that well vs very aerial char. anyways, where can i find vid's of world champs or (if they exist) professionals?
In the link of my OP, there is a nice-sized list of professional matches.
And heavies can be used just fine. It just takes a lot more practice to get good with them. Ganon, DK (Bum recently got 4th in MLG using him, beating out a lot of big names), and Bowser (Gimpyfish is my hero here) all have a pretty large following.
Here is another good link if you are looking to learn smashbros: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=42749 It is the SSBM Compendium of Knowledge: 2007 Edition. It has guides for general techniques, interviews with pro players, and a list of general terms.
On December 12 2007 03:54 ZaplinG wrote: Did you take those vids yourself, Bill?
Nope o.O.
On December 12 2007 04:59 Xeofreestyler wrote: I never actually got into wavedashing,l-canceling, etc. because the scene here is practically non-existant (And when it still existed I didnt have ssbm yet) But I'm decent with falco anyway (or so I think.)
I used to play SSB and SSBM with my friends in high school, but I've seldom played SSBM in uni. I think I might have wave-dashed once for the first time during some post-tournament casuals last week . I can beat players who can wave-dash and all that but who have weak mind games and play very predictably. Nevertheless, I'd like to learn how to do it because it makes certain characters (e.g. Marth) so much more mobile. I was told that the timing is different for each character, though, which sucks =P.
The short hops also look really useful. Next time I play, I plan to ask people how to do those, too.
As an IC player, I was forced to learn to wavedash. Now, I just naturally do it with all characters. It's a similar concept to apm in starcraft - Its not necessary to have crazy apm to win, just makes it easier.
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(And when it still existed I didnt have ssbm yet)
