On November 06 2018 12:53 Capresis wrote: When I played this, most people (out of a very small pool of players) were playing the bug race and they'd fast expo, and I could never figure out how to punish it or even take my own expo safely. I didn't speak their language so I couldn't even ask for advise. The only thing I could find that 'worked' was a 1 base boomerang goblin timing (beast race). What all works against a bug fast expo? With human and beast.
I'll try to answer from what I remember at my skill level. I played mostly Empire. Your question pretty much depends on what map you are on (naturally). The most relevant factors that play in is where the expansion is placed and how far away the bases are.
The BvF standard play is to get critical mass goblins before fallen can mount its first serious attack. On larger maps beast should fast expand too. Beast needs to augment his army with witches (for bloodlust and drop) and warlocks (for the poison cloud) and keep pressuring and defending. If the fallen player gets a far superior economy or makes a sufficient amount of avengers, the game is lost. The matchup is mostly fair.
EvF is a harder game to play. The threats posed by fallen 1 base plays (which are stronger and more likely) greatly limits how you can play. You are usually locked into a swordsman pressure strategy. If you have a crystal ball and know preemtively that fallen will FE, a FE of your own works well. But you should consider this "answer" to be unreliable since it automatically fails to all 1 base plays. I will tell you that you should be happy whenever you see fallen fast expand because fallen gives up a lot of advantage when doing it. What is especially important is to adjust your build when you see a FE. The "normal" empire builds are focused mostly on getting things up in time for this and that threat. Your economy and "tech flow" will be better if you play without these constraints.
this is what you need to do (after patching the game to 1.4)
1) download dxwnd (https://sourceforge.net/projects/dxwnd/) and create a folder within the aox folder 2) run dxwnd.exe 3) go to edit -> add, name: aox, path/launch is exigo.exe 4) main settings: W = 1280 H = 960, tick desktop center. video: window size = floating. window = thick frame, lock cursor in window, cursor clipper = locked 5) run game through dxwnd, you should have the game smack bang in the middle windowed with no issues at all.
I applaud the effort. It seems like this is focused on making a new campaign, but anything to make the rest of the game function well in 2023 is a nice bonus.
Armies of Exigo was/is a diamond in the rough with many good ideas. I have many good memories of the game and the small tight knit community that played it. Maybe it still has a working community? I don't know. I dropped out when the only way to play the game for me was with a pirated version of the game because my retail copy connected to a dead server.
It could have become truely excellent if more people had bought the game and sustained an active community where everyone could find games more reliably. I think one aspect of Exigo's demise was that without active players to give input to the developer, the developer had no good way to refine balance/quality and cater to a truely competitive scene at critical points after release. If Armies of Exigo 2 was made, I would definitely be interested.
On November 21 2023 05:47 stenole wrote: I applaud the effort. It seems like this is focused on making a new campaign, but anything to make the rest of the game function well in 2023 is a nice bonus.
Armies of Exigo was/is a diamond in the rough with many good ideas. I have many good memories of the game and the small tight knit community that played it. Maybe it still has a working community? I don't know. I dropped out when the only way to play the game for me was with a pirated version of the game because my retail copy connected to a dead server.
It could have become truely excellent if more people had bought the game and sustained an active community where everyone could find games more reliably. I think one aspect of Exigo's demise was that without active players to give input to the developer, the developer had no good way to refine balance/quality and cater to a truely competitive scene at critical points after release. If Armies of Exigo 2 was made, I would definitely be interested.
good to see you lurking around even after all these years.
On November 21 2023 14:03 GTR wrote: good to see you lurking around even after all these years.
I've never had a good reason to "leave". I'm surprised you even remember me. I might miss the Armies of Exigo days when I endlessly tried to figure out the Empire vs Fallen puzzle. I never solved it. But I probably miss the pre-SC2 days of BW more. To this day, I still remember you as the kid who was making RWAs for BW replays. Good times.
For those of you who might be interested in playing some AoX, we've got a fairly active Discord server (for a dead game, that is): https://discord.gg/Jv4mH4Dp
I've made a couple of BW remakes for AoX:
Chupung-Ryeong (Larva)
Polypoid (Inner Sanctum)
Plus a redesign of Darkside Forest (Neo Darkside Forest):
And a couple of older BW remakes:
Python
Arkanoid (Old Gods)
I've got a few other remakes in the pipeline, namely Eclipse, Golden Wall (from SC2), Sylphid, and Medusa. I'd like to have a varied line-up, with a few 2p, 3p, and 4p maps, ranging from standard (in BW sense) to non-standard.
Nice to see there's some life in the game still. The addition of new maps is an especially welcome sight. The original map pool was rather limited (and most were unsuited for competitive play). Good work!
How did I miss this?! I'll defo rewatch it on your channel.
Edit: @maybenexttime: for the future, I think it's possible to disable the "camera wobble" or whatever it's called when you're panning the screen. It's nausia-inducing when obsing
The finals will be played this Sunday at 13:30 CET. Suwak vs. MacroZerg. In all likelihood, the match will be upgrades from a Bo3 to a Bo5. It's also possible that Larva will make it to the map pool. ^^