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Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
March 22 2009 05:47 GMT
#701
*begin ramble*

I got up to 1750 BP on XBL today after my third session of games. Stick still feels weird, but that's getting better. I modded an SE like ZoW, but with Sanwa (OBSF-30) buttons to go with the JLF. Throw/engage feel a bit weird, and they felt weirder after the so-called JLF ultimate mod that I later undid. By reducing the engage and throw with electrical tape wrapped around the actuator, etc., I think the diagonals become too large relative to up, down, left, right, so that's not a good thing. I'm going to try getting a Seimitsu LS-32 instead. As a side bonus, this switch would make shmups playable lol.

After failing a bunch of DPs, I said screw it, broke away from ST shoto roots, and started running with Gief. That's when I remembered that green hand/pimp slap/banishing flat has been a DP motion since Alpha. Oh well. So I'm never sure whether to blame poor execution or lag whenever I get hit instead of doing an EX green hand. Also, I'm never sure if it was the combination of my spacing and the enemy's jump-in attack or the lag whenever I get hit out of crouch -> PPP lariat. Got hit by j.HP, cr. HP xx hadoken xx super, ultra by a 1400 BP Ken out of one of those failed lariats.

I think after learning some matchups things will go better. Maybe I'll beat the Dictator that did nothing but headstomps and knee presses. And maybe I'll win against a decent Sagat. Mostly right now I'm just sad that nobody wants to play footsies with Zangief, much less give him a hugs.
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 22 2009 06:25 GMT
#702
On March 22 2009 11:10 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 05:54 Fishball wrote:
On March 19 2009 07:13 MCMcEmcee wrote:
got my TE, XBL peeps wanna play?


DAMN?! Where did you get yours?

The online store has a HUGE back order and is not even taking new ones.
TE sticks on Amazon is selling for over 300 US dollars.

Shit, seems like it will take a while before I can finally get my hands on one and have "real" practice.

HRAP2 / HRAP3 / HRAP EX gogo?

Sure it has lower quality buttons (but still good) and none of the perks of the TE, but at least you'll have a stick.


I'm all about new stuff, so there is no way I'm going for HRAP2.
I did do a brief search for HRAP3, but they were back ordered too.
Not sure about EX.

I know I won't mod, and I'm the type of person that only aims for the best if possible, which would be TE

Currently playing RE5 to kill more time...
靈魂交響曲
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
March 22 2009 06:29 GMT
#703
All you guys talking about "parts" is making my eyes go @@.

Sanwa, I hear that a lot, but too lazy to Google
Then there are buttons... gates... bubbletops(?!)... plugs?

Give me my TE already!
靈魂交響曲
Etherone
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1898 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 06:43:12
March 22 2009 06:37 GMT
#704
On March 22 2009 14:32 Bill307 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2009 13:43 Etherone wrote:
ima start shopping around for a SE, and mod it later when it will actually make a difference, since i blow XD

So it'll be like, get an SE 2, mod it 2 days later?

When we say it can break after 10 hours of use, we're not exaggerating.....


yea but i hear it's a badly placed washer, that causes the joystick to stick on diagonal position. so it's easily fixed. if i see it is more than that ill just mod everything out asap.

anyways, back from a short playing session. and i got raped, stupid akuma and his demon S/U if only it were easier to do.
I always screw up doing teleport, that cost me some games

whats with everyone using ken?

and anyone else here use akuma? i love mirror match-ups

On March 22 2009 15:29 Fishball wrote:
All you guys talking about "parts" is making my eyes go @@.

Sanwa, I hear that a lot, but too lazy to Google
Then there are buttons... gates... bubbletops(?!)... plugs?

Give me my TE already!


i started this about a week ago, its not complicated

bubble top is the shiny circle thing on top of his stick on the SE pic,

buttons are self explanatory,

plugs are those 2 black things where the buttons more to the right are supposed to be
I.E the L1 and L2
they cover up the button holes. since we only use 6 buttons.

octagon gate is the mounting board, a metal plate where you mount the joystick
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 22 2009 06:45 GMT
#705
Myrmidon you know that the LS-32s are made with a shorter throw and stuff, the JLF ultimate mod was made up to make it feel more like that i thought
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
Myrmidon
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
United States9452 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-03-22 08:04:21
March 22 2009 07:55 GMT
#706
On March 22 2009 15:45 SayaSP wrote:
Myrmidon you know that the LS-32s are made with a shorter throw and stuff, the JLF ultimate mod was made up to make it feel more like that i thought


Yeah, good point. Let me describe in more detail what I experienced with the JLF ultimate mod. I'm referring to the "wrap electrical tape around the actuator" part, although the microswitch part has a similar effect. Actually, I only did this portion--I did not switch springs or put paper inside the microswitch containers, as I didn't have another spring and putting paper inside the microswitch containers sounds like a messy and bad idea to me.

I haven't heard anybody else point this out, so I'm not sure if I'm right here, but this is my understanding of what happens (quick diagram I made):
[image loading]

Stick at rest should be in the center of "Neutral."

You're shrinking the engage and throw distances equally by the amount of the thickness of the tape put on. This means the deadzone shrinks, but the distance between start of engage and edge (full throw) remains constant. Originally the dead zone and engage zones should be balanced, but I think this mod messes up the balance, overemphasizing diagonals. Or at least it did without doing the paper with the microswitch. On the other hand, an LS-32 or joystick with smaller engage and throw should be balanced yet smaller overall. I think.

edit: not that the actual gate is shrinking with the JLF ultimate mod, but the effective areas are changing. Maybe imagine a circle for the joystick in the center of the first diagram at rest. Then make the circle larger...what do you get?

In hindsight, I think the ultimate mod may work especially well with an octagonal gate, as octagonal gates de-emphasize the diagonals.


edit2: Etherone, I was playing Akuma at the start. If you're on XBL, add me as "Myrmidon0". Or anyone add me for that matter.

On a side note, the SE stick washer not only makes the joystick mechanically stuck, but since it's moving up and griding against the PCB, it can dynamically short circuit some of the connections too. (lol)
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
March 22 2009 11:20 GMT
#707
I occasionally pick Akuma =p
Myrmidon imma add you on XBL, we should get some games in some day.
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
March 22 2009 19:14 GMT
#708
i'm way too lazy to ever get a stick. looks fun though
Nak Allstar.
zXk3
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Mexico1178 Posts
March 23 2009 00:10 GMT
#709
i just hate discers!! yesterday started playing ranked (with controller... what a bummer) lost a couple of games to a gouken player, then i found him again, won a close battle but got a good reading, found him again and the mofo disced after one perfect and almost a second one... same thing happened a bit later against a ken and a m.bison, cant wait for my stick to come over, in the end i buyed once since all the "parts stores" were closed until april and even then i would have to wait a bit for shipping...

im not a good player, but i love competition... zXk3 at XBL, mainly sagat & sakura player
GraphicsNo soy dominante, solo tengo mejores ideas...| Sorry Oshi, 4-1 shows that im better than you =D i wont do any more mistakes now
kefkalives
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Australia1272 Posts
March 23 2009 01:43 GMT
#710
Where did you buy your stick from?
prOxi.bOn ; \\ What makes most people feel happy/Leads us headlong into harm.
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12816 Posts
March 23 2009 01:50 GMT
#711
The ink style is amazing
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
zXk3
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Mexico1178 Posts
March 23 2009 02:00 GMT
#712
On March 23 2009 10:43 kefkalives wrote:
Where did you buy your stick from?

if you are talking to me, from a dude from srk.com, got a hrapEX full sanwa, it got a lil bit pricey due shipment but its alright, i got a meshball =O, stick should come this week (hopefuly tomorrow)
GraphicsNo soy dominante, solo tengo mejores ideas...| Sorry Oshi, 4-1 shows that im better than you =D i wont do any more mistakes now
Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
March 23 2009 02:10 GMT
#713
When are we 360 TLers going to get online together and play. I remember it being discussed but it didn't go further from that. Lets pick a day and we can all get down on that day.
Twitter: @KingKosi
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 23 2009 04:01 GMT
#714
We don't know whos free what days yet :o
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
March 23 2009 04:31 GMT
#715
On March 22 2009 15:37 Etherone wrote:
whats with everyone using ken?

my theory is that people want to play as shotos and they think ken is cooler because he's not japanese.

i'm kinda sad that people don't play more varied characters. i'm at mid 3000 BP on XBL and it's 90% ryu, ken, sagat, balrog, bison, blanka, and gief.

i play sakura, i've seen like 1 other sakura online, ever. and then after i beat him he sent me a message saying "THANKS I LEARNED A LOT" which just means he jacked my combos.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
March 23 2009 05:01 GMT
#716
wooo jackin ur combos
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
March 23 2009 05:06 GMT
#717
ya theres like 3 per character
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
March 23 2009 06:04 GMT
#718
I gotta start comboing more shift. Bleh
Nak Allstar.
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
March 23 2009 06:32 GMT
#719
On March 23 2009 13:01 SayaSP wrote:
We don't know whos free what days yet :o

Let's just set a day and people who are free can just join in; not like we can't do this multiple times~
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
zXk3
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
Mexico1178 Posts
March 23 2009 06:36 GMT
#720
i would join if there's no problem with someone who doesnt talk that much while playing and even then have a really funny english accent (then again, damn you capcom.. we want a lobby patch)
GraphicsNo soy dominante, solo tengo mejores ideas...| Sorry Oshi, 4-1 shows that im better than you =D i wont do any more mistakes now
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