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KingzTig
Profile Joined February 2024
155 Posts
March 07 2024 02:21 GMT
#1821
But I gotta say the f2p with pay to play campaign is “innovative“, probably even more than the actual game itself. That and the coop campaign
End1ess
Profile Joined September 2012
Canada77 Posts
March 07 2024 04:57 GMT
#1822
On March 07 2024 11:21 KingzTig wrote:
But I gotta say the f2p with pay to play campaign is “innovative“, probably even more than the actual game itself. That and the coop campaign


Were you living under a rock SC2 already been doing this for years.
KingzTig
Profile Joined February 2024
155 Posts
March 07 2024 07:46 GMT
#1823
On March 07 2024 13:57 End1ess wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2024 11:21 KingzTig wrote:
But I gotta say the f2p with pay to play campaign is “innovative“, probably even more than the actual game itself. That and the coop campaign


Were you living under a rock SC2 already been doing this for years.

They didn't start with it. Sc2 made massive banks
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
March 07 2024 07:53 GMT
#1824
CoD does something similar, albeit they bundle regular multiplayer with it but have the Warzone Battle Royale mode as the F2P component.

It’s not crazily atypical these days to do something in that ballpark.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7458 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-07 08:25:09
March 07 2024 08:24 GMT
#1825
On March 07 2024 16:53 WombaT wrote:
CoD does something similar, albeit they bundle regular multiplayer with it but have the Warzone Battle Royale mode as the F2P component.

It’s not crazily atypical these days to do something in that ballpark.


Last I checked (which has been a while) CoD want like 50$ for their 8 hours story campaign and that every year and with basically the same game over and over. And it somehow works for them so Kudos
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MegaBuster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
167 Posts
March 08 2024 01:57 GMT
#1826
ummmm Stormheads there's 20 viewers on twitch all day - is this where Husky steps in and saves the whole thing?
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3132 Posts
March 08 2024 02:50 GMT
#1827
On March 08 2024 10:57 MegaBuster wrote:
is this where Husky steps in and saves the whole thing?


No, it isn't. Sorry, Husky fan.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12071 Posts
March 08 2024 08:58 GMT
#1828
On March 08 2024 10:57 MegaBuster wrote:
ummmm Stormheads there's 20 viewers on twitch all day - is this where Husky steps in and saves the whole thing?


The issue is all the already big streamers who were streaming it (which is where all the viewers came from) - have no reason to stream it currently as there's no money for them in it so until the game properly releases and everyone can play it I imagine the viewer numbers will be low.
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jghuztfgjhj
Profile Joined March 2024
1 Post
March 08 2024 09:39 GMT
#1829
--- Nuked ---
_Spartak_
Profile Joined October 2013
Turkey464 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-08 18:38:54
March 08 2024 18:38 GMT
#1830
They released a 50-page eNovella telling the story leading up to the events of the game:

https://a-us.storyblok.com/f/1017471/x/ce49ce97de/beyond-the-brink-stormgate-enovella.pdf
MegaBuster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
167 Posts
March 09 2024 00:33 GMT
#1831
At 16000 words that is clearly an eNovelette.

They have deceived the fans again.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-10 06:15:23
March 10 2024 06:14 GMT
#1832
On March 09 2024 09:33 MegaBuster wrote:
At 16000 words that is clearly an eNovelette.
They have deceived the fans again.

LOL, its just a video game. relax man.
i counted 16121 words... it is not 16000 words ... you're lying to the fans! ! !

Seriously though, deception can be a matter of degree. Lots of marketing is hyperbole bordering on BS. We'll know in 6 months whether or not FrostGate is the real deal.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
MegaBuster
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
167 Posts
March 10 2024 17:29 GMT
#1833
https://www.reddit.com/user/FGS_TorcH/

The company account of Torch (he who was once named Trevor Housten) has gone cold. He has left us only 12 reddit posts in his years of labour as "esports specialist before a game of esports is played".

We must scry from them like the golden plates found by Joseph Smith, the answers are in here. There's no way someone would be employed for years to just make a dozen reddit posts, this is something more!

Some of them look like commandments, they are numbered. Are these the right ways to live?

Others are more cryptic --- talking of the 'Path to Pro'. Is this the road to enlightenment?

TORCH COME BACK! I am not ready for this task! These seer stones burn my trembling hands like hot coals.

PLEASE DON'T ABANDON US!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-10 21:07:07
March 10 2024 21:00 GMT
#1834
Most of the employees doing nothing at a software dev. shop is pretty common dude. I wouldn't read too much into it.
On March 11 2024 02:29 MegaBuster wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/user/FGS_TorcH/

The company account of Torch (he who was once named Trevor Housten) has gone cold. He has left us only 12 reddit posts in his years of labour as "esports specialist before a game of esports is played".

Its like a real life Dilbert cartoon. Dilbert is universally enjoyed because it is very common. In many software dev. shops 5 people out of 50 employees do 95% of the work. So you get a lot of screwing around at most places by most people. There are some people that are very very good at appearing to work hard.


In my first permanent full time job I spent half my time developing a product that would be the cornerstone of the company I founded after leaving that full time job. People spending half their time doing other stuff is pretty common.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
cha0
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada518 Posts
March 11 2024 02:08 GMT
#1835
On March 11 2024 02:29 MegaBuster wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/user/FGS_TorcH/

The company account of Torch (he who was once named Trevor Housten) has gone cold. He has left us only 12 reddit posts in his years of labour as "esports specialist before a game of esports is played".

We must scry from them like the golden plates found by Joseph Smith, the answers are in here. There's no way someone would be employed for years to just make a dozen reddit posts, this is something more!

Some of them look like commandments, they are numbered. Are these the right ways to live?

Others are more cryptic --- talking of the 'Path to Pro'. Is this the road to enlightenment?

TORCH COME BACK! I am not ready for this task! These seer stones burn my trembling hands like hot coals.

PLEASE DON'T ABANDON US!


Am I unaware of some big scandal/drama involving this guy Torch? Without context from your posts it seems like you have a personal grudge or bone to pick with the man.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-11 04:45:33
March 11 2024 04:26 GMT
#1836
On March 11 2024 11:08 cha0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2024 02:29 MegaBuster wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/user/FGS_TorcH/

The company account of Torch (he who was once named Trevor Housten) has gone cold. He has left us only 12 reddit posts in his years of labour as "esports specialist before a game of esports is played".

We must scry from them like the golden plates found by Joseph Smith, the answers are in here. There's no way someone would be employed for years to just make a dozen reddit posts, this is something more!

Some of them look like commandments, they are numbered. Are these the right ways to live?

Others are more cryptic --- talking of the 'Path to Pro'. Is this the road to enlightenment?

TORCH COME BACK! I am not ready for this task! These seer stones burn my trembling hands like hot coals.

PLEASE DON'T ABANDON US!


Am I unaware of some big scandal/drama involving this guy Torch? Without context from your posts it seems like you have a personal grudge or bone to pick with the man.

1 lazy employee isn't a scandal though. there are lazy employees every where. who knows if he is lazy and who cares.

This IT Support scene is hilarious because it is so common. No one would be laughing if this never happened. Thing is.. it happens all the time.

Of course, the publishers of video games are trying to get you to spend money so they have to tell you everyone worked extremely hard on the product. Usually , some employees worked extremely hard. The probability of a company like say.. Bungie having 1300 people who all works their asses off is zero. The probability that all 50+ people connected with Stormgate all work extremely hard is low.

I think the quote from Tim Morten was "this is the most mission driven team I've ever worked on". He sounds like Dana White or Vince Mcmahon... "THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT WRESTLING Pay Per View Ever... and its only $100".

This is the most mission driven team Tim Morten has ever been on... until the next team. Then they'll be the most mission driven team he has ever been on.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
_Spartak_
Profile Joined October 2013
Turkey464 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-11 08:30:42
March 11 2024 07:09 GMT
#1837
On March 11 2024 11:08 cha0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2024 02:29 MegaBuster wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/user/FGS_TorcH/

The company account of Torch (he who was once named Trevor Housten) has gone cold. He has left us only 12 reddit posts in his years of labour as "esports specialist before a game of esports is played".

We must scry from them like the golden plates found by Joseph Smith, the answers are in here. There's no way someone would be employed for years to just make a dozen reddit posts, this is something more!

Some of them look like commandments, they are numbered. Are these the right ways to live?

Others are more cryptic --- talking of the 'Path to Pro'. Is this the road to enlightenment?

TORCH COME BACK! I am not ready for this task! These seer stones burn my trembling hands like hot coals.

PLEASE DON'T ABANDON US!


Am I unaware of some big scandal/drama involving this guy Torch? Without context from your posts it seems like you have a personal grudge or bone to pick with the man.
He left Frost Giant sometime ago due to being offered the job as the Global Esports Manager at Pokemon Company. Not to mention reddit activity of a developer is not an indication of how much work they have done. It is just that a few people on this thread really want the game to fail, so they will latch on to anything that (in their mind) makes the game look bad.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-11 17:31:50
March 11 2024 17:26 GMT
#1838
Here are the #s.

The player base at about 600 people.
https://stormgateworld.com/stats
https://steamcharts.com/app/2764900

The late pledge drive brought in about 1,200 new customers. It is interesting to note that this did not slow the decline in player base. In fact, the decline in the player base accelerated during the late pledge drive.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/stormgate-late-pledge#/

$0.9 Million in "expressions of interest" to invest in Frost Giant's via the StartEngine campaign.
https://www.startengine.com/offering/frostgiant

$0 from Streamers. 0 comments from Artosis.

Has any RTS influencer/streamer publicly acknowledged giving money to Stormgate for investment purposes? All I've heard is Influencer/Streamers publicly stating they were NOT investing. Beomulf, Grubby, ZombieGrub, Stormgate Central, etc etc. Frost Giant went on a campaign soliciting donation money from Streamers/Influencers. If any public acknowledgements are made about wanting to invest in Stormgate I will update this post with the proper numbers.

I'd say the streamers/influencers are not too impressed with Stormgate.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9448 Posts
March 11 2024 18:14 GMT
#1839
On March 11 2024 02:29 MegaBuster wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/user/FGS_TorcH/

The company account of Torch (he who was once named Trevor Housten) has gone cold. He has left us only 12 reddit posts in his years of labour as "esports specialist before a game of esports is played".

We must scry from them like the golden plates found by Joseph Smith, the answers are in here. There's no way someone would be employed for years to just make a dozen reddit posts, this is something more!

Some of them look like commandments, they are numbered. Are these the right ways to live?

Others are more cryptic --- talking of the 'Path to Pro'. Is this the road to enlightenment?

TORCH COME BACK! I am not ready for this task! These seer stones burn my trembling hands like hot coals.

PLEASE DON'T ABANDON US!


Why exactly did they hire an esports-specialist years before the game was about to be released?

Those are the types of decisions that make me inclined to believe they wasted way too much money while getting investor money was easy.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada18041 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-03-11 18:33:15
March 11 2024 18:29 GMT
#1840
The game looks like it was made by 5 or less guys in less than a year. With the maturity of game making tools these days all it takes is a small team to build a game.

Shiro Games was a tiny indie studio when a small part of the company made Northgard. And game making tools have only improved since then. Game making tools don't get worse over time. They get better.

It is hard to tell how good Frost Giant is right now though. Let's see what they come up with in the next six months.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
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