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Geisterkarle
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Germany3257 Posts
February 05 2024 06:58 GMT
#1421
It is still "closed beta". Open will be in "summer" or something.
If you have backed the Kickstarter you got an invite code for "now".
I haven't played that much with my backer-code. I'm still not sure what I'm doing at the moment :D
There can only be one Geisterkarle
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
February 05 2024 07:40 GMT
#1422
Isn’t there that Steam showcase week coming up pretty soon for folks who didn’t go the Kickstarter week?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7445 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-05 09:01:16
February 05 2024 08:59 GMT
#1423
On February 05 2024 16:40 WombaT wrote:
Isn’t there that Steam showcase week coming up pretty soon for folks who didn’t go the Kickstarter week?


Steam NEXT Fest starts in a few hours. If I remember correctly, there is no NDA on Stormgate while this is going on.
Stormgate should be playable as a demo for everyone from later today (starts in ~9 hours) until the 12th
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
February 05 2024 09:07 GMT
#1424
On February 05 2024 17:59 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 05 2024 16:40 WombaT wrote:
Isn’t there that Steam showcase week coming up pretty soon for folks who didn’t go the Kickstarter week?


Steam NEXT Fest starts in a few hours. If I remember correctly, there is no NDA on Stormgate while this is going on.
Stormgate should be playable as a demo for everyone from later today (starts in ~9 hours) until the 12th

Sick city!
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Swisslink
Profile Joined March 2011
2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-05 15:35:27
February 05 2024 15:34 GMT
#1425
I really start to worry about the game for the first time. Don't get me wrong: I know it's early in development. I know a lot can change. However... I just realize I really don't enjoy watching the videos and streams, because everything seems to bland and tediously slow. I tend to watch the videos in 1.5x speed and everything still takes forever.

And right now, the strategic depth seems to be quite limited - but that can change with more units and buildings added to the game. Right now, I'm not that excited about the game anymore.
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8182 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-05 16:23:56
February 05 2024 16:23 GMT
#1426
Just trying to reconfirm but so far it seems like there's no invisibility/cloak mechanic in the game? IE no units that can turn invisible etc? Also no mines or anything like that? Not judging just wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything.
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remeka
Profile Joined March 2023
19 Posts
February 05 2024 17:14 GMT
#1427
Is Reynor V,V,V?
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9649 Posts
February 05 2024 17:45 GMT
#1428
On February 06 2024 02:14 remeka wrote:
Is Reynor V,V,V?

A lot of ppl think it's parting. Or an account he shared with others possibly.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Nirli
Profile Joined February 2023
Bulgaria387 Posts
February 05 2024 19:42 GMT
#1429
Why are half the Terran buildings named like the Terran buildings from SC?
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10105 Posts
February 05 2024 21:08 GMT
#1430
ah theres no option to change stuff like mouse scroll speed %, rebinding unit/building hotkeys etc. t.t
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Detscham
Profile Joined February 2024
6 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-05 22:16:42
February 05 2024 22:15 GMT
#1431
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10105 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-05 23:54:02
February 05 2024 23:21 GMT
#1432
it feels really weird when u box a bunch of bob's to build a structure and they all start it instead of 1, especially because selecting individual workers feels a bit awkward right now, i feel like it would be way better if 1 bob builds it then u can manually add more on top of it if u wanted to

then when u wanna spam a bunch of buildings with those same workers they stop building the first structure and start the 2nd one, i know Q is a "quick macro build" control group but a lot of times there's situations where i just wanna build stuff manually (if i have idle workers far away i don't want them to get selected to build those structures etc.)

honestly the quick macro build hotkey/shortcut feels a bit useless to me, the other shortcut groups are good (train units/train advanced units/upgrades) because they combine several buildings into 1, "quick macro build" just bypasses "z" on a worker
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
February 05 2024 23:27 GMT
#1433
On February 06 2024 07:15 Detscham wrote:
You gotta love its twitch activity, it's exactly what you would imagine

A lot of e-girls? :S
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
February 05 2024 23:32 GMT
#1434
On February 06 2024 08:21 TT1 wrote:
it feels really weird when u box a bunch of bob's to build a structure and they all start it instead of 1, especially because selecting individual workers feels a bit awkward right now, i feel like it would be way better if 1 bob builds it then u can manually add more on top of it if u wanted to

then when u wanna spam a bunch of buildings with those same workers they stop building the first structure and start the 2nd one, i know Q is a "quick macro build" control group but a lot of times there's situations where i just wanna build stuff manually (if i have idle workers far away i don't want them to get selected to build those structures etc.)

honestly the quick macro build control group feels a bit useless to me, the other quick macro groups are good (train units/train advanced units/upgrades) because they combine several buildings into 1, quick macro build just bypasses "z" on a worker

I saw this in the NDA period, albeit not me personally.

It feels very wonky and unintuitive, or perhaps it’s merely counter-intuitive to someone used to Blizz games, especially WC3 Hu that had that quick-build mechanic using multiple peasants.

It’s as you say, there are scenarios where it’s not what you want to do, and you’re sometimes left fighting the UI a little.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10105 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-06 07:01:53
February 06 2024 00:04 GMT
#1435
On February 06 2024 08:32 WombaT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2024 08:21 TT1 wrote:
it feels really weird when u box a bunch of bob's to build a structure and they all start it instead of 1, especially because selecting individual workers feels a bit awkward right now, i feel like it would be way better if 1 bob builds it then u can manually add more on top of it if u wanted to

then when u wanna spam a bunch of buildings with those same workers they stop building the first structure and start the 2nd one, i know Q is a "quick macro build" control group but a lot of times there's situations where i just wanna build stuff manually (if i have idle workers far away i don't want them to get selected to build those structures etc.)

honestly the quick macro build control group feels a bit useless to me, the other quick macro groups are good (train units/train advanced units/upgrades) because they combine several buildings into 1, quick macro build just bypasses "z" on a worker

I saw this in the NDA period, albeit not me personally.

It feels very wonky and unintuitive, or perhaps it’s merely counter-intuitive to someone used to Blizz games, especially WC3 Hu that had that quick-build mechanic using multiple peasants.

It’s as you say, there are scenarios where it’s not what you want to do, and you’re sometimes left fighting the UI a little.


Ya in a vacuum it feels weird (especially for a SC player) but when u couple it with BOB overcharge it makes sense.. but there has to be a better/cleaner way of doing it.

1 way that "quick macro build" (Q key) could be more useful is if it selected all your Command Posts so you could rally them (that way you don't need to have another individual hotkey for your Command Posts). You'd have an all in 1 shortcut/hotkey for your workers/town hall.

Adding BOBs to "quick macro build" and removing it from "train units" also makes more sense imo, it's cleaner/more synergetic if u branch them into their own groupings. Having your worker mixed in with your units is really weird and a bit confusing cus the town hall is the only building that doesn't have a shortcut that selects them to change their rally.

TLDR: I think adding BOBs (or workers) to Q instead of E and having Q select your Command Posts/Town Halls would make for better hotkey synergy
ab = tl(i) + tl(pc), the grand answer to every tl.net debate
Zealgoon
Profile Joined January 2013
China188 Posts
February 06 2024 04:14 GMT
#1436
Ugh. It's exactly as I feared; almost the same as the last build we saw, with the only notable change being a big ability bar (dunno if there's a fancy name for it) at the top of screen. Still no sign of 3rd faction and still no T3 tech as far as I can tell. Yeah, very much a tech demo still. Dunno why they're in such a hurry to let the public have their hand on this. Personally I can't see anything good coming out of this playtest.

It's also laggy as hell, even when I was playing against the bot.
iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9649 Posts
February 06 2024 04:37 GMT
#1437
On February 06 2024 09:04 TT1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2024 08:32 WombaT wrote:
On February 06 2024 08:21 TT1 wrote:
it feels really weird when u box a bunch of bob's to build a structure and they all start it instead of 1, especially because selecting individual workers feels a bit awkward right now, i feel like it would be way better if 1 bob builds it then u can manually add more on top of it if u wanted to

then when u wanna spam a bunch of buildings with those same workers they stop building the first structure and start the 2nd one, i know Q is a "quick macro build" control group but a lot of times there's situations where i just wanna build stuff manually (if i have idle workers far away i don't want them to get selected to build those structures etc.)

honestly the quick macro build control group feels a bit useless to me, the other quick macro groups are good (train units/train advanced units/upgrades) because they combine several buildings into 1, quick macro build just bypasses "z" on a worker

I saw this in the NDA period, albeit not me personally.

It feels very wonky and unintuitive, or perhaps it’s merely counter-intuitive to someone used to Blizz games, especially WC3 Hu that had that quick-build mechanic using multiple peasants.

It’s as you say, there are scenarios where it’s not what you want to do, and you’re sometimes left fighting the UI a little.


Ya in a vacuum it feels weird (especially for a SC player) but when u couple it with BOB overcharge it makes sense.. but there has to be a better/cleaner way of doing it.

1 way that "quick macro build" (Q key) could be more useful is if it selected all your Command Posts so you could rally them (that way you don't need to have another individual hotkey for your Command Posts). You'd have an all in 1 shortcut/hotkey for your workers/town hall.

Adding BOBs to "quick macro build" and removing it from "train units" also makes more sense imo, it's cleaner/more synergetic if u branch them into their own groupings. Having your worker mixed in with your units is really weird and a bit confusing cus the town hall is the only building that doesn't have a shortcut that selects them to change their rally.

TLDR: I think adding BOBs (or workers) to Q instead of E and having Q select your Command Posts/Town Halls (in order to rally them) would make for better hotkey synergy

What do you think of the unit auto add to command groups or do you think pro's wont use that?
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
TT1
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada10105 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-06 04:42:11
February 06 2024 04:41 GMT
#1438
On February 06 2024 13:37 iamperfection wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2024 09:04 TT1 wrote:
On February 06 2024 08:32 WombaT wrote:
On February 06 2024 08:21 TT1 wrote:
it feels really weird when u box a bunch of bob's to build a structure and they all start it instead of 1, especially because selecting individual workers feels a bit awkward right now, i feel like it would be way better if 1 bob builds it then u can manually add more on top of it if u wanted to

then when u wanna spam a bunch of buildings with those same workers they stop building the first structure and start the 2nd one, i know Q is a "quick macro build" control group but a lot of times there's situations where i just wanna build stuff manually (if i have idle workers far away i don't want them to get selected to build those structures etc.)

honestly the quick macro build control group feels a bit useless to me, the other quick macro groups are good (train units/train advanced units/upgrades) because they combine several buildings into 1, quick macro build just bypasses "z" on a worker

I saw this in the NDA period, albeit not me personally.

It feels very wonky and unintuitive, or perhaps it’s merely counter-intuitive to someone used to Blizz games, especially WC3 Hu that had that quick-build mechanic using multiple peasants.

It’s as you say, there are scenarios where it’s not what you want to do, and you’re sometimes left fighting the UI a little.


Ya in a vacuum it feels weird (especially for a SC player) but when u couple it with BOB overcharge it makes sense.. but there has to be a better/cleaner way of doing it.

1 way that "quick macro build" (Q key) could be more useful is if it selected all your Command Posts so you could rally them (that way you don't need to have another individual hotkey for your Command Posts). You'd have an all in 1 shortcut/hotkey for your workers/town hall.

Adding BOBs to "quick macro build" and removing it from "train units" also makes more sense imo, it's cleaner/more synergetic if u branch them into their own groupings. Having your worker mixed in with your units is really weird and a bit confusing cus the town hall is the only building that doesn't have a shortcut that selects them to change their rally.

TLDR: I think adding BOBs (or workers) to Q instead of E and having Q select your Command Posts/Town Halls (in order to rally them) would make for better hotkey synergy

What do you think of the unit auto add to command groups or do you think pro's wont use that?


na no1's gonna use that, u need units at home/ur rally point to defend vs harass/drops

btw i dunno if any1 has this problem but switching any of the shortcut hotkeys (q/w/e/r/t/) to "tab" doesn't work, it's weird cus it was working for me before
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Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16129 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-02-06 10:07:56
February 06 2024 10:03 GMT
#1439
Try as I might, this game just doesn't appeal to me like even a little bit right now. The gameplay is similar enough to Starcraft 2 but lacking the polish and smoothness in gameplay, the aesthetic feels VERY bland and uninteresting, the economy feels overly simplified to the point of pointlessness, and the two factions just don't seem very interesting either.

Maps are small and boring, and the Co Op feels similar enough to SC2's co Op (except it's 3 player which is nice) that again it makes me wonder why am I playing this instead of just booting up SC2?

It doesn't help that my PC doesn't run this anywhere near as well as it runs SC2 and I hate its UI currently. Reminds me way too much of League of Legends in a bad way.

Might be that it's just too early to tell, and the game will improve a ton as it receives additional development time, but for what it is right now, I just don't have any enjoyment when playing it. Every game I play of it makes me think I'd be better off booting up SC2 and playing that instead.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7445 Posts
February 06 2024 10:38 GMT
#1440
On February 06 2024 19:03 Vindicare605 wrote:
Try as I might, this game just doesn't appeal to me like even a little bit right now. The gameplay is similar enough to Starcraft 2 but lacking the polish and smoothness in gameplay, the aesthetic feels VERY bland and uninteresting, the economy feels overly simplified to the point of pointlessness, and the two factions just don't seem very interesting either.

Maps are small and boring, and the Co Op feels similar enough to SC2's co Op (except it's 3 player which is nice) that again it makes me wonder why am I playing this instead of just booting up SC2?

It doesn't help that my PC doesn't run this anywhere near as well as it runs SC2 and I hate its UI currently. Reminds me way too much of League of Legends in a bad way.

Might be that it's just too early to tell, and the game will improve a ton as it receives additional development time, but for what it is right now, I just don't have any enjoyment when playing it. Every game I play of it makes me think I'd be better off booting up SC2 and playing that instead.


For me it's a similar feeling but for completely different reasons: Somehow I can't be bother to learn the new controls, units, abilities and strategies. Maybe I'm just getting old and lazy. The game needs to give me a reason to do all that and rather start a game of SG than booting up SC2.
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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