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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
November 09 2020 15:16 GMT
#101
AR is mostly locked to resin and dailies - you can scrape together some here and there via chests but otherwise that's why everyone talks about the resin costs. I don't think there's an intrinsic need to rush things though.

Regarding Stormterror, main thing to remember is that when the platform starts burning you need to use the wind in the corners to change platforms. Otherwise I don't think the fight is that hard.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
November 09 2020 16:28 GMT
#102
Go hunt for all the oculi if you have nothing else to do. Increased stamina is really useful. You'll probably run into a couple world quests along the way as well, including the big Liyue one.

Stormterror is a matter of dodging. You can iframe through his dive attack - it seems very lenient. Beam attack should never hit you if you just stand on the other side of the platform. Don't bother with bows. When he hangs onto the platform, melee his claws. He should only get 2-3 attacks off per cycle. If you climb up his back to melee him when he's vulnerable, he should die in 2-3 cycles given a properly geared dps.
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Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2535 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-09 19:49:59
November 09 2020 19:44 GMT
#103
I just hit AR35 casual / free-to-play, and am starting to feel the pinch of resources/stats after the world level. I don't feel like I would have hurt that much if it took me another day or two to hit AR35, as I'm enjoying exploring and gently investing in a wide caste of characters.

Currently I've got :
fischl at lvl 68/70 with a 70/70 bow and appropriate talent level ups
Noelle at lvl 60/60 with a 60/60 claymore, but behind in talents
Sucrose at lvl 60/60 with a 50/50 book and appropriate talent level ups
MC, barbara, qiqi at lvl 50/50 and ??? weapons/talents

Just got qiqi and am having fun exploring Noelle/fish/sucrose/qiqi setup atm. I like games for exploring the mechanics and finding my own path to optimization, and honestly I feel like I could get AR -slower- and be fine with it. Maybe that changes when you can condense resin, but we'll see!

I want a decent fire character, moving forward. I have Xiangling but didn't like her elemental skill, so I didn't invest in her at all. Noelle's really redundant in current main lineup, and geo feels like it sucks... but so far only Xiangling and Amber, and I don't really like either of 'em.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
November 10 2020 04:59 GMT
#104
Geo definitely has offensive scaling issues at the moment but that could flip at any time if they add artifacts that boost Geo damage. Which ultimately is kinda the funky part of a game like this - the meta can change wildly with the addition of new equipment.

Fire is in a wonky spot right now where two of the top DPS are fire but they're also 5*, while there's a top-top-top-tier fire support but otherwise you kinda end up in this "you either have OPnnet or you don't" situation. Amber's actually pretty decent as a fire support but I think even with hefty constellations (to empower her decoy) she's still inferior to Bennet, though I feel like a high-constellation Amber > high-constellation Xiangling as an elemental support. We'll see what Xinyang looks like in terms of up-time, though I guess that'll be in like 3 weeks or so.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-10 07:45:31
November 10 2020 07:41 GMT
#105
Hit AR41 yesterday. All mobs have now become bullet sponges. Level up material (like Scrolls, Arrows, plants and stuff, not the boss things) are incresdible hard to come by in these numbers without using Paimons cheat shop. Game went from awesome to annoying grindfest really fast.

Hope the updates today will give me some spark back

On November 10 2020 04:44 Fleetfeet wrote:
I just hit AR35 casual / free-to-play, and am starting to feel the pinch of resources/stats after the world level. I don't feel like I would have hurt that much if it took me another day or two to hit AR35, as I'm enjoying exploring and gently investing in a wide caste of characters.

Currently I've got :
fischl at lvl 68/70 with a 70/70 bow and appropriate talent level ups
Noelle at lvl 60/60 with a 60/60 claymore, but behind in talents
Sucrose at lvl 60/60 with a 50/50 book and appropriate talent level ups
MC, barbara, qiqi at lvl 50/50 and ??? weapons/talents

Just got qiqi and am having fun exploring Noelle/fish/sucrose/qiqi setup atm. I like games for exploring the mechanics and finding my own path to optimization, and honestly I feel like I could get AR -slower- and be fine with it. Maybe that changes when you can condense resin, but we'll see!

I want a decent fire character, moving forward. I have Xiangling but didn't like her elemental skill, so I didn't invest in her at all. Noelle's really redundant in current main lineup, and geo feels like it sucks... but so far only Xiangling and Amber, and I don't really like either of 'em.


Xiangling got rolled quite often in the first banner and was free in the abyss quest so I have her on C5 I think. Pyronado upkeep is almost at 100%. It's awesome. You can also use her really easy as support. Throw Gouba out, throw Oz (Fischl) out and then switch to whoever and finish the job
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-10 17:34:37
November 10 2020 15:32 GMT
#106
I think they're bullet sponges in some ways but I also think they still evaporate as long as you combo elemental reactions and such well. I think what you really get punished for later on is inefficient usage/understanding of the damage system (and if you don't have a variety of characters the limitations in combo potential, which I feel is a right shame). The more folks have dove into the mechanics of this game the more it's clear there's a tremendous amount of intricacy and combo potential there, but there's a double-whammy of 1) not enough characters yet 2) characters locked behind a gacha.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vQ_ayc9bVtUZz9zlF7h6L5EsKE1tUIujtXYkicp0nmxG5CXzRSA91Eh4qKQTadh-KOg8im5gRN_iD-R/pub

As an example there's a real lack of a cryo "aura" and I have a feeling Diona will not cover that gap. That makes any cryo-based-reaction team really sketchy at the moment (this punishes lightning, in particular, because it's incredibly hard to upkeep superconduct unless you're maining Chongyun DPS).

With all that said, there's no denying this game during content downtimes is a mobage-style grind game, so it is what it is.

----

Also, this vid probably really needs to be linked in the first post or something:
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Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-10 18:52:44
November 10 2020 18:52 GMT
#107
Ah man, the banner already changed .

Was trying to pull a Xingqiu to support Keqing, but got 3-4 Noelles instead... that f2p struggle (actually I bought the battle pass when I reached level 50). At least I didn't get Klee and can save my pity for Xiao.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
November 11 2020 00:10 GMT
#108
You're in the same boat I am. The only difference is I got a bunch of Sucrose instead.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
November 11 2020 06:46 GMT
#109
I decided to go for Klee just before the banner ended. I now have c3 Xingqiu (great) and a c6 Sucrose hah. On the plus side, got Klee and Jean.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
November 11 2020 08:10 GMT
#110
Just bought Bennett. Looks like my 'main' comp is going to be Klee / Bennett / Xingqiu / Sucrose. I've already got a second team with Xiangling / Fischl / Kaeya / Jean. Things are shaping up nicely so far.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
November 11 2020 10:07 GMT
#111
On November 11 2020 17:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
Just bought Bennett. Looks like my 'main' comp is going to be Klee / Bennett / Xingqiu / Sucrose. I've already got a second team with Xiangling / Fischl / Kaeya / Jean. Things are shaping up nicely so far.


That's a nice team! If you don't mind me asking, did you spend or just lucky? ^^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
November 11 2020 14:40 GMT
#112
that new Childe guy is so OP. especially if ur a whale and can get him to c6 he is pretty much the most broken char Ive seen. a guy was clearing abyss floor 10-2 with just 1 childe and no other party members, LOL.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6880 Posts
November 11 2020 15:11 GMT
#113
On November 11 2020 23:40 ffswowsucks wrote:
that new Childe guy is so OP. especially if ur a whale and can get him to c6 he is pretty much the most broken char Ive seen. a guy was clearing abyss floor 10-2 with just 1 childe and no other party members, LOL.


Ah well, guess I have to pour all my saved Primogem into getting him, then not getting him and then rage quitting
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
November 11 2020 15:15 GMT
#114
On November 11 2020 19:07 Harris1st wrote:
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On November 11 2020 17:10 Firebolt145 wrote:
Just bought Bennett. Looks like my 'main' comp is going to be Klee / Bennett / Xingqiu / Sucrose. I've already got a second team with Xiangling / Fischl / Kaeya / Jean. Things are shaping up nicely so far.


That's a nice team! If you don't mind me asking, did you spend or just lucky? ^^

Bit of both. I got lucky with Fischl, Xingqiu, and Sucrose. I got lucky with £10 with Jean. I whaled a bit more for Klee and ended up getting XQ c3 and Sucrose c6 in the process. Bennett I got with those special tokens.
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Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2279 Posts
November 11 2020 18:15 GMT
#115
I just rolled Childe with my last roll, guess i'm gonna have to run him now !
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-11 18:22:28
November 11 2020 18:21 GMT
#116
Wow, world level 5 + Show Spoiler +
Childe
actually destroyed me in his second phase on the first try. Nice to finally have a strong boss during the story.

Let's try again without a useless Venti :p.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2535 Posts
November 11 2020 18:36 GMT
#117
On November 12 2020 03:21 Musicus wrote:
Wow, world level 5 + Show Spoiler +
Childe
actually destroyed me in his second phase on the first try. Nice to finally have a strong boss during the story.

Let's try again without a useless Venti :p.


God that whole bossfight was so anime. It hurt me inside.
kyarisan
Profile Joined May 2010
United States347 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-12 01:25:59
November 12 2020 01:25 GMT
#118
So, I'm a noob let's get that out there, but I just learned how to level up your talents. I'm mostly character level 40 with my team, ar30. But now that I know how I want to ask the experts in this thread about where I should best prioritize my talent lvl up material.

I have Bennett/Fischl/Qiqi/Xiangling as my current team. Will my weapons influence this decision at all? Given this team comp, where would my talent lvl mats best be put to use?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
November 12 2020 03:46 GMT
#119
Basic idea is to funnel most of your resources into your primary dps characters then into your secondary carrys and last your healers/supports.
Never Knows Best.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
November 12 2020 04:31 GMT
#120
On November 12 2020 03:21 Musicus wrote:
Wow, world level 5 + Show Spoiler +
Childe
actually destroyed me in his second phase on the first try. Nice to finally have a strong boss during the story.

Let's try again without a useless Venti :p.

I hated it. Being hard is one thing. Getting oneshot at 14k health is another. I have no idea why the recommended party level is 35. Being forced to rewatch the dialogue was excruciating. Eventually I just said fuck it, loaded up on food, and dps raced to victory. Can't get oneshot if the boss doesn't make it to that move in their script. I'm looking forward to exploring Inazuma, but man, I really don't like mihoyo's idea of difficult content.

Story-wise... well, I didn't expect much to begin with, but what we got was noticeably rushed. Maybe they'll get better as things progress, but I doubt it.

The reputation system feels underwhelming. Having to "track" bounties is a waste of time and not very fun. Requests are somehow more braindead than commissions. Worst of all, the system barely adds anything to do since it's gated weekly.
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