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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
 And what's with people not leaving when the game is blatantly over? It's like people have this undying need to see the throne explode. Reminds me of the idiots on PGT hiding a pylon to drag the game out. | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
you don't get to see all your stats and stuff (the ending game board) unless you stay til the end when the tree or throne dies. and why would you get mad at them staying? when they're right about to die and they're staying, it gives you more chances to play around and feed on them it's fun =] i'm of course talking about pubs haha | ||
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
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paper
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
and no bottleabuser I disagree, dutch are different not weird! | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
On February 05 2008 02:20 BlueRoyaL wrote: lol i disagree with koreans being weird. i scrim and play ihs with korean clans a lot on uswest they're all mannered and their skill level is surprisingly exceptional. you don't get to see all your stats and stuff (the ending game board) unless you stay til the end when the tree or throne dies. and why would you get mad at them staying? when they're right about to die and they're staying, it gives you more chances to play around and feed on them it's fun =] i'm of course talking about pubs haha It's exactly why they are weird blueroyal. Who the hell has a people that are all mannered and gosu? Must be something wrong, because that isn't healthy. | ||
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
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BottleAbuser
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Koreans also talk to make up for lack of skill, but usually it's maphack accusations instead of shittalking. | ||
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{ToT}Strafe
Thailand7026 Posts
Heen: Villan: Heen: Villan: Heen: Villan: Heen: Villan: Heen: Villan: Heen: Villan: Followed. Can't read korean:p | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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BlueRoyaL
United States2493 Posts
i have a friend who always types blank spaces when koreans start talking zzzz | ||
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
On February 05 2008 18:18 {ToT}Strafe wrote: Haha yeah now that you mention that I remember a game where I was playing with heen and they accused me of maphack in Korean and he picked up on it and a long conversation of Heen: Villan: Heen: Villan: Heen: Villan: Heen: Villan: Heen: Villan: Heen: Villan: Followed. Can't read korean:p Every replay of Heen's he showed us had that. I thought my WC3 was bugged before I figured it out. ;; | ||
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
Say I have a hero that I want to get a scepter on, like Rhasta, Zeus, or Leshrac, for example. Now, obviously scepter doesn't give regen, so I obviously want some regen to be able to spam more effectively. My question is: do I buy a sobi at the start and leave my base without any branches, or do I just save up and buy a void stone and delay my boosters? I always go 2 tango/5 branches at the start now, unless I'm going arcane or vanguard, in which case I go 2 tango/RoD or stout, respectively, and then however many branches I can afford. This is a bit more difficult if I'm going sobi first, as then you can't really afford any branches unless it's RD. 570 in -RD: 2 tangoes (180) + sobi (325) = 505g (1 branch) 538 in -AP (when horn sounds): 2 tangoes (180) + sobi (325) = 505g (0 branches) So if I go tangoes/sobi I go to my lane with no stats, and often that leaves me very vulnerable to harass, as I'll have 50-100 HP less than my teammates. ;; | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On February 06 2008 00:06 rpf wrote: Hm, I have another (nitpicky) question: Say I have a hero that I want to get a scepter on, like Rhasta, Zeus, or Leshrac, for example. Now, obviously scepter doesn't give regen, so I obviously want some regen to be able to spam more effectively. My question is: do I buy a sobi at the start and leave my base without any branches, or do I just save up and buy a void stone and delay my boosters? I always go 2 tango/5 branches at the start now, unless I'm going arcane or vanguard, in which case I go 2 tango/RoD or stout, respectively, and then however many branches I can afford. This is a bit more difficult if I'm going sobi first, as then you can't really afford any branches unless it's RD. 570 in -RD: 2 tangoes (180) + sobi (325) = 505g (1 branch) 538 in -AP (when horn sounds): 2 tangoes (180) + sobi (325) = 505g (0 branches) So if I go tangoes/sobi I go to my lane with no stats, and often that leaves me very vulnerable to harass, as I'll have 50-100 HP less than my teammates. ;; Going scepter first is bad for your health. Most of the heroes that can use Scepter have more important items to get like say the three heroes you listed: Rhasta - Blink Dagger is a must, two talis/bracers can hold over until mid game. Lesharc - Health/Mana (Mana more) and Blink, he farms well so it really doesn't matter. Zeus - Arcane to Blink. I stated before Scepter is bad because you can't effectively farm it fast and the rewards aren't great. So my advice to you is to determine how comfortable you are laning with the hero, then get tangos, clarities, branches, circlets as you wish. RoR and Sobi aren't really that great unless you plan on pumping stats so Sobi can scale quickly for you in early-mid game. | ||
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
I guess the whole bracer vs. branches thing is just preference usually. I've stopped buying circlets as starting items, and I go tangoes/branches to "feel out" the game, and then I'll get a bracer or two if I think I'll need them. Is that how most players do it? | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
circs if you feel like you need bracers/talis/bands later, otherwise branches and resell later are better unless you are running some kind of lane control then clarities are needed too. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
Otherwise the effect of Agh actually isn't that useful... you can actually delay it even on Lesh :< | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
 I only do it on Ogre in newb games when they're letting me go 'Chinese Gold Farmer' mode. And of course I get dagger right after it.The problem with Aghanim's is the staff which costs too much. Or rather blink dagger is too good to pass up on. One of the most common ways of ganking starting mid game is blinkdagger -> stun so they can't react. And if only sand king has a dagger and lina, for example, doesn't, there's a problem. Dagger is more effective offensive than defensive so keep that in mind. Sadly, dagger is now widely known as a necessity and it's going to be nerfed again Personally cd to 45 sec and mana cost to 100 should be enough of a nerf but I hear they're making it 60 sec cd (?)As for starting items, you should only get RoR if you're planning to get a 2nd or an early hood (bristleback solo). I recently solo'd luna vs magnataur in mid lane and I expected mag to come so I went double RoR and that worked out ok. Tangos are more useful in keeping your hp closer to 100% so you can gank/avoid dying. Also tango juking is fun | ||
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