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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
November 15 2019 19:54 GMT
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A galaxy-spanning adventure awaits in STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order, a new 3rd person action-adventure title from Respawn Entertainment.



A galaxy-spanning adventure awaits in STAR WARS Jedi: Fallen Order, a new 3rd person action-adventure title from Respawn Entertainment. This narratively-driven single player game puts you in the role of a Jedi Padawan who narrowly escaped the purge of Order 66 following the events of Episode 3: Revenge of the Sith. On a quest to rebuild the Jedi Order, you must pick up the pieces of your shattered past to complete your training, develop new powerful Force abilities, and master the art of the iconic lightsaber - all while staying one step ahead of the Empire and its deadly Inquisitors.
While mastering your abilities, players will engage in cinematically-charged lightsaber and Force combat designed to deliver the kind of intense STAR WARS lightsaber battles as seen in the films. Players will need to approach enemies strategically, sizing up strengths and weaknesses while cleverly utilizing your Jedi training to overcome your opponents and solve the mysteries that lay in your path.
STAR WARS fans will recognize iconic locations, weapons, gear, and enemies while also meeting a roster of fresh characters, locations, creatures, droids and adversaries new to STAR WARS. As part of this authentic STAR WARS story, fans will delve into a galaxy recently seized by the Empire. As a Jedi hero-turned-fugitive, players will need to fight for survival while exploring the mysteries of a long-extinct civilization all in an effort to rebuild the remnants of the Jedi Order as the Empire seeks to erase the Jedi completely.
KEY FEATURES
● Cinematic, Immersive Combat – Jedi: Fallen Order delivers the fantasy of becoming a Jedi through its innovative lightsaber combat system – striking, parrying, dodging - partnered with a suite of powerful Force abilities you’ll need to leverage to overcome obstacles that stand in your way. This combat system is intuitive to pick up, but takes training and practice to fully master its nuances as you gain new powers and abilities along your adventure.
● A New Jedi Story Begins - As a former Padawan on the run from the Empire, you must complete your training before Imperial Inquisitors discover your plan to revive the Jedi Order. Aided by a former Jedi Knight, a cantankerous pilot, and a fearless droid, you must escape the evil machinations of the Empire in a story-driven adventure. Explore and overcome a wide range of challenges focused on combat, exploration, and puzzle-solving.
● The Galaxy Awaits - Ancient forests, windswept rock faces, and haunted jungles are all unique biomes you’ll explore in Jedi: Fallen Order, with the freedom to decide when and where you go next. As you unlock new powers and abilities, opportunities open up to re-traverse maps in new ways; leveraging the Force to augment the way you explore. Move quickly, however, as the Empire is actively hunting your every step in their effort to exterminate all remnants of the Jedi Order.


Bought it today via Origin Premier (15 bucks/ month)

Really good game! Can recommend (at least for 15 bucks )
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 17 2019 18:43 GMT
#2
Yeah the graphics are insane and the story isn't too bad, having fun playing it so far.
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Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9572 Posts
November 17 2019 20:55 GMT
#3
I was very disappointed when I heard your force abilities are limited to push/pull and the new time slow... I wanted to fry some scum with force lightning and choke a bitch with it too.
Otherwise, it is pretty well received by both critics and fans. Too bad it isn't as open as Jedi Academy or KotOR in terms of gameplay, but better this than another battlefront...
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
November 19 2019 12:08 GMT
#4
Played until now on Grandmaster difficulty but I'm losing patience. Not because it's too hard or that I die too often but I feel cheated by the game on a regular basis as opposed to the beginning where this rarely happened.

The design is just not as clever as Dark Souls or Sekiro IMO.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34503 Posts
November 20 2019 15:28 GMT
#5
Enjoying it greatly as my first foray into this kind of game. That said the amount of backtracking because of no fast travel does suck D:
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Oukka
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Finland1683 Posts
November 20 2019 19:17 GMT
#6
On November 18 2019 03:43 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah the graphics are insane and the story isn't too bad, having fun playing it so far.


What are you playing it on? On PS4 the game is choppy and textures load slowly, generally feels poorly optimized and unpolished. Gives a feeling it was really only meant for higher end PCs and maybe PS4Pro and the Xbox One X or something, definitely doesn't look particularly nice in PS4.

But gameplaywise I am enjoying it a lot, writing is good so far too I think.
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-20 21:23:26
November 20 2019 21:23 GMT
#7
Playing it on PC with settings maxed because i upgraded my pc 6 months ago and stuff, even having it display out on a 1440p monitor etc.

Maybe you need a PS4 Pro :D haha but yeah not sure about consoles, guess i should have made that remark in my post xD
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
November 21 2019 15:42 GMT
#8
On November 21 2019 00:28 Firebolt145 wrote:
Enjoying it greatly as my first foray into this kind of game. That said the amount of backtracking because of no fast travel does suck D:


I hope they patch that in as a QoL change. This is one of the points driving me to insane. The 3D map doesn't really make it any easier. At least some meditation points should be reachable with fast travel
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Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
November 21 2019 18:23 GMT
#9
Yeah the map is hard for me to read but im a bit stupid at reading maps anyway xD
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-21 21:15:42
November 21 2019 21:10 GMT
#10
3D map is definitely a somewhat questionable choice but I got used to it. Definitely felt a lack of quick travel on Zeffo and Dathomir at some points, especially Zeffo since it has so much stuff to collect and you need a lot of power-ups to get them so you backtrack a ton. Dathomir mostly because there's so many enemies. They could have done more small quick travel stuff + Show Spoiler +
like on Kashyyyk with the tram and the bird
at least.

Overall though I really enjoyed this game a lot more than I expected. For Star Wars game standards it's really good. Story has some really great moments I don't wanna spoil.
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
November 21 2019 22:48 GMT
#11
I returned to zeffo a couple times but holy shit that map idk how to navigate it so I gave up after a while.

Some really cool secret places that go v deep though
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
November 22 2019 10:50 GMT
#12
On November 22 2019 07:48 Kipsate wrote:
I returned to zeffo a couple times but holy shit that map idk how to navigate it so I gave up after a while.

Some really cool secret places that go v deep though


Yes Zeffo almsot destroyed my will to play on Grandmaster. Made me quit to desktop a few times ^^
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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
November 23 2019 02:25 GMT
#13
This game is very weird. The story and the characters seem very bland to me. The graphics are ok but nothing to write home about and the combos/skills that you get are so few and boring. And even that little you get from the combat portion of the game seems very clunky. Except the animations, I think those are decent but nothing spectacular. Every review I read about the game gives it high scores. But why? Is it because they want to encourage EA to make more single player games or perhaps the game is actually good and there's something wrong with me, lol I just dont get it.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26556 Posts
November 25 2019 10:52 GMT
#14
Tempted to get a PS4 finally just for a whole bunch of exclusives, Bloodborne especially. Long delayed playing the Soulsborne games, I assume they’re worth playing before this game?
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
November 25 2019 11:00 GMT
#15
On November 23 2019 11:25 FreakyDroid wrote:
This game is very weird. The story and the characters seem very bland to me. The graphics are ok but nothing to write home about and the combos/skills that you get are so few and boring. And even that little you get from the combat portion of the game seems very clunky. Except the animations, I think those are decent but nothing spectacular. Every review I read about the game gives it high scores. But why? Is it because they want to encourage EA to make more single player games or perhaps the game is actually good and there's something wrong with me, lol I just dont get it.


Not sure what you expected TBH. I mean, sure, it's no Witcher 3 and it could be a bit more adult. But story'wise it is as Star Wars as it gets. Lightsabers, cute droids, light/dark force tug of war
Graphics are good. Almost no bugs. Game is actually finished at release. Combat is good and demanding.

All in all a really solid game with Star Wars flavor. Which is exactly what people were wanting for a loooong time
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26556 Posts
November 25 2019 11:12 GMT
#16
On November 25 2019 20:00 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2019 11:25 FreakyDroid wrote:
This game is very weird. The story and the characters seem very bland to me. The graphics are ok but nothing to write home about and the combos/skills that you get are so few and boring. And even that little you get from the combat portion of the game seems very clunky. Except the animations, I think those are decent but nothing spectacular. Every review I read about the game gives it high scores. But why? Is it because they want to encourage EA to make more single player games or perhaps the game is actually good and there's something wrong with me, lol I just dont get it.


Not sure what you expected TBH. I mean, sure, it's no Witcher 3 and it could be a bit more adult. But story'wise it is as Star Wars as it gets. Lightsabers, cute droids, light/dark force tug of war
Graphics are good. Almost no bugs. Game is actually finished at release. Combat is good and demanding.

All in all a really solid game with Star Wars flavor. Which is exactly what people were wanting for a loooong time

What would you rate it out of 100 incidentally?

‘Game is actually finished at release’ is quite depressing to be mentioned as a plus point for any game.

Probably will pick this up one of these days, passes the brief ‘looks good’ test and now I’m avoiding as many spoilers of specifics as I try to play games as blind as possible.

Looks like a good game with the Star Wars feel but they’re not leaning too hard on that as a crutch, as all the good SW games from my childhood were like. Dark Forces was a damn solid FPS, X-Wing and Tie Fighter were great combat flight sims etc.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-25 13:25:17
November 25 2019 13:24 GMT
#17
On November 25 2019 20:12 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 20:00 Harris1st wrote:
On November 23 2019 11:25 FreakyDroid wrote:
This game is very weird. The story and the characters seem very bland to me. The graphics are ok but nothing to write home about and the combos/skills that you get are so few and boring. And even that little you get from the combat portion of the game seems very clunky. Except the animations, I think those are decent but nothing spectacular. Every review I read about the game gives it high scores. But why? Is it because they want to encourage EA to make more single player games or perhaps the game is actually good and there's something wrong with me, lol I just dont get it.


Not sure what you expected TBH. I mean, sure, it's no Witcher 3 and it could be a bit more adult. But story'wise it is as Star Wars as it gets. Lightsabers, cute droids, light/dark force tug of war
Graphics are good. Almost no bugs. Game is actually finished at release. Combat is good and demanding.

All in all a really solid game with Star Wars flavor. Which is exactly what people were wanting for a loooong time

What would you rate it out of 100 incidentally?

‘Game is actually finished at release’ is quite depressing to be mentioned as a plus point for any game.

Probably will pick this up one of these days, passes the brief ‘looks good’ test and now I’m avoiding as many spoilers of specifics as I try to play games as blind as possible.

Looks like a good game with the Star Wars feel but they’re not leaning too hard on that as a crutch, as all the good SW games from my childhood were like. Dark Forces was a damn solid FPS, X-Wing and Tie Fighter were great combat flight sims etc.


I would rate it somewhere in the low-mid 80's I guess. Gun to my head: 82/100

Potential improvements:
- Fast travel (at least a few points)
- More skillpoints / skilltrees / different builds / RPG stuff
- Decisions which influence the story

‘Game is actually finished at release’ is quite depressing to be mentioned as a plus point for any game.
I know. Sad but true. You disagree?

Hope I didn't spoiler too much. I tried to avoid any specifics ^^'
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
November 25 2019 13:30 GMT
#18
On November 25 2019 19:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
Tempted to get a PS4 finally just for a whole bunch of exclusives, Bloodborne especially. Long delayed playing the Soulsborne games, I assume they’re worth playing before this game?


I completely overlooked this question.

I don't own a PS4 but I did play Dark Souls 2 and 3 and they are a must play if you like challenging games and have a high frustration tolerance.

I play Fallen Order on PC with mouse/ keyboard cause I currently don't have a working controller. Did need to rebind some keys but works good enough.
So far I paid 1 month of Origin premiere, which is 15$, just for this game. That's top value IMO
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26556 Posts
November 25 2019 20:29 GMT
#19
On November 25 2019 22:24 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 20:12 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 25 2019 20:00 Harris1st wrote:
On November 23 2019 11:25 FreakyDroid wrote:
This game is very weird. The story and the characters seem very bland to me. The graphics are ok but nothing to write home about and the combos/skills that you get are so few and boring. And even that little you get from the combat portion of the game seems very clunky. Except the animations, I think those are decent but nothing spectacular. Every review I read about the game gives it high scores. But why? Is it because they want to encourage EA to make more single player games or perhaps the game is actually good and there's something wrong with me, lol I just dont get it.


Not sure what you expected TBH. I mean, sure, it's no Witcher 3 and it could be a bit more adult. But story'wise it is as Star Wars as it gets. Lightsabers, cute droids, light/dark force tug of war
Graphics are good. Almost no bugs. Game is actually finished at release. Combat is good and demanding.

All in all a really solid game with Star Wars flavor. Which is exactly what people were wanting for a loooong time

What would you rate it out of 100 incidentally?

‘Game is actually finished at release’ is quite depressing to be mentioned as a plus point for any game.

Probably will pick this up one of these days, passes the brief ‘looks good’ test and now I’m avoiding as many spoilers of specifics as I try to play games as blind as possible.

Looks like a good game with the Star Wars feel but they’re not leaning too hard on that as a crutch, as all the good SW games from my childhood were like. Dark Forces was a damn solid FPS, X-Wing and Tie Fighter were great combat flight sims etc.


I would rate it somewhere in the low-mid 80's I guess. Gun to my head: 82/100

Potential improvements:
- Fast travel (at least a few points)
- More skillpoints / skilltrees / different builds / RPG stuff
- Decisions which influence the story

Show nested quote +
‘Game is actually finished at release’ is quite depressing to be mentioned as a plus point for any game.
I know. Sad but true. You disagree?

Hope I didn't spoiler too much. I tried to avoid any specifics ^^'

Metacritic has it at 81 so you’re pretty on the consensus!

I don’t disagree at all but it’s just a depressing indictment on the industry. No spoilers thus far anyway! I just look enough information about a game to whet my appetite and then play it blind from there, and I don’t think anything has really been spoiled yet. I don’t really understand people who voraciously consume everything about a game because you never have that feeling of discovery and learning, it’s like dating a girl after you’ve seen her sex tape already.
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FreakyDroid
Profile Joined July 2012
Macedonia2616 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-25 23:49:09
November 25 2019 23:47 GMT
#20
On November 25 2019 20:00 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2019 11:25 FreakyDroid wrote:
This game is very weird. The story and the characters seem very bland to me. The graphics are ok but nothing to write home about and the combos/skills that you get are so few and boring. And even that little you get from the combat portion of the game seems very clunky. Except the animations, I think those are decent but nothing spectacular. Every review I read about the game gives it high scores. But why? Is it because they want to encourage EA to make more single player games or perhaps the game is actually good and there's something wrong with me, lol I just dont get it.


Not sure what you expected TBH. I mean, sure, it's no Witcher 3 and it could be a bit more adult. But story'wise it is as Star Wars as it gets. Lightsabers, cute droids, light/dark force tug of war
Graphics are good. Almost no bugs. Game is actually finished at release. Combat is good and demanding.

All in all a really solid game with Star Wars flavor. Which is exactly what people were wanting for a loooong time


Well I expected better story and better characters. Im not saying they are bad or anything, but not memorable I guess? Probably the only thing I will remember from this game is the map design, which is pretty good. Though, like you said, I'd add fast travel on the meditation points because sometimes you cant backtrack from where you came from and having to circle around is kind of a pain in the butt. Not to mention revisiting the planets will be a bit easier and less time consuming. I know why they did it, because certain areas of the map become available after you get some force or droid abilities and because of secrets/chests/echoes. Thing is, after you unlock all your skill tree, the chests and secrets provide you with almost 0 benefit and the echoes are just boring af. I wish they added some more impactful secrets to make them worthwhile, which will make the pain of traversing the planets a bit less frustrating.

Combat wise is not bad, but having only 2 force abilities is soooo little. I didnt expect Force Unleashed type of combat, but at least something like Jedi Knight Academy/Outcast, somewhere along those lines which gives you a good sense of playing a Jedi. Of course the few abilities Cal uses can be justified story wise because he isnt a trained Jedi. However if they make a 2nd game, they better make it more fun with more force powers!

I appreciate that we got a single player game without microtransactions, no logins or online requirements, but I dont think that alone is enough to rate the game with 9 or above like many reviewers have. Even your 8/10 is pretty generous, I'd give it a solid 7/10.
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-26 00:23:03
November 26 2019 00:21 GMT
#21
A New Jedi Story Begins - As a former Padawan on the run from the Empire, you must complete your training before Imperial Inquisitors discover your plan to revive the Jedi Order.

I can't wait to see how the hero revives the Jedi Order!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
November 26 2019 12:06 GMT
#22
On November 26 2019 05:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2019 22:24 Harris1st wrote:
On November 25 2019 20:12 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 25 2019 20:00 Harris1st wrote:
On November 23 2019 11:25 FreakyDroid wrote:
This game is very weird. The story and the characters seem very bland to me. The graphics are ok but nothing to write home about and the combos/skills that you get are so few and boring. And even that little you get from the combat portion of the game seems very clunky. Except the animations, I think those are decent but nothing spectacular. Every review I read about the game gives it high scores. But why? Is it because they want to encourage EA to make more single player games or perhaps the game is actually good and there's something wrong with me, lol I just dont get it.


Not sure what you expected TBH. I mean, sure, it's no Witcher 3 and it could be a bit more adult. But story'wise it is as Star Wars as it gets. Lightsabers, cute droids, light/dark force tug of war
Graphics are good. Almost no bugs. Game is actually finished at release. Combat is good and demanding.

All in all a really solid game with Star Wars flavor. Which is exactly what people were wanting for a loooong time

What would you rate it out of 100 incidentally?

‘Game is actually finished at release’ is quite depressing to be mentioned as a plus point for any game.

Probably will pick this up one of these days, passes the brief ‘looks good’ test and now I’m avoiding as many spoilers of specifics as I try to play games as blind as possible.

Looks like a good game with the Star Wars feel but they’re not leaning too hard on that as a crutch, as all the good SW games from my childhood were like. Dark Forces was a damn solid FPS, X-Wing and Tie Fighter were great combat flight sims etc.


I would rate it somewhere in the low-mid 80's I guess. Gun to my head: 82/100

Potential improvements:
- Fast travel (at least a few points)
- More skillpoints / skilltrees / different builds / RPG stuff
- Decisions which influence the story

‘Game is actually finished at release’ is quite depressing to be mentioned as a plus point for any game.
I know. Sad but true. You disagree?

Hope I didn't spoiler too much. I tried to avoid any specifics ^^'

Metacritic has it at 81 so you’re pretty on the consensus!

I don’t disagree at all but it’s just a depressing indictment on the industry. No spoilers thus far anyway! I just look enough information about a game to whet my appetite and then play it blind from there, and I don’t think anything has really been spoiled yet. I don’t really understand people who voraciously consume everything about a game because you never have that feeling of discovery and learning, it’s like dating a girl after you’ve seen her sex tape already.


Rofl that is a bad comparison :D
I completely understand your thoughts regarding a game. I mean figuring shit out is half the fun!
But I would most definitely still date the girl after I've seen her sex tape ^^
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Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
November 26 2019 13:06 GMT
#23
I'm having such a great time with this game!
It probably helps that I haven't played any Uncharted so I'm not tired of the genre and I rather like the different puzzles.
The story so far is rather enjoyable to follow, not amazing, standard Star Wars stuff. Was afraid Cal was going to be a bit whiny but he's fine and his relationship with BD1 is well done.
And obviously, being a sucker for everything DS/Sekiro like, the light saber fights are just fucking great, finally a game that gets the tension (playing on Jedi Master).
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26556 Posts
November 26 2019 15:21 GMT
#24
On November 26 2019 21:06 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2019 05:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 25 2019 22:24 Harris1st wrote:
On November 25 2019 20:12 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 25 2019 20:00 Harris1st wrote:
On November 23 2019 11:25 FreakyDroid wrote:
This game is very weird. The story and the characters seem very bland to me. The graphics are ok but nothing to write home about and the combos/skills that you get are so few and boring. And even that little you get from the combat portion of the game seems very clunky. Except the animations, I think those are decent but nothing spectacular. Every review I read about the game gives it high scores. But why? Is it because they want to encourage EA to make more single player games or perhaps the game is actually good and there's something wrong with me, lol I just dont get it.


Not sure what you expected TBH. I mean, sure, it's no Witcher 3 and it could be a bit more adult. But story'wise it is as Star Wars as it gets. Lightsabers, cute droids, light/dark force tug of war
Graphics are good. Almost no bugs. Game is actually finished at release. Combat is good and demanding.

All in all a really solid game with Star Wars flavor. Which is exactly what people were wanting for a loooong time

What would you rate it out of 100 incidentally?

‘Game is actually finished at release’ is quite depressing to be mentioned as a plus point for any game.

Probably will pick this up one of these days, passes the brief ‘looks good’ test and now I’m avoiding as many spoilers of specifics as I try to play games as blind as possible.

Looks like a good game with the Star Wars feel but they’re not leaning too hard on that as a crutch, as all the good SW games from my childhood were like. Dark Forces was a damn solid FPS, X-Wing and Tie Fighter were great combat flight sims etc.


I would rate it somewhere in the low-mid 80's I guess. Gun to my head: 82/100

Potential improvements:
- Fast travel (at least a few points)
- More skillpoints / skilltrees / different builds / RPG stuff
- Decisions which influence the story

‘Game is actually finished at release’ is quite depressing to be mentioned as a plus point for any game.
I know. Sad but true. You disagree?

Hope I didn't spoiler too much. I tried to avoid any specifics ^^'

Metacritic has it at 81 so you’re pretty on the consensus!

I don’t disagree at all but it’s just a depressing indictment on the industry. No spoilers thus far anyway! I just look enough information about a game to whet my appetite and then play it blind from there, and I don’t think anything has really been spoiled yet. I don’t really understand people who voraciously consume everything about a game because you never have that feeling of discovery and learning, it’s like dating a girl after you’ve seen her sex tape already.


Rofl that is a bad comparison :D
I completely understand your thoughts regarding a game. I mean figuring shit out is half the fun!
But I would most definitely still date the girl after I've seen her sex tape ^^

Tsk what’s wrong with a bit of mystery in romance? Youngsters these days :p

I think playing games from the age of 6 for the next 24 years as one of my main hobbies I’ve seen a lot of stuff before already so remaining relatively unspoiled is that much more important.

I know a vague bit about Dark Souls and am about to start playing through.

Opinions seem to vary but iirc a lot like how DS worked level design wise, with less fast travel to hubs like in some of the others, and that backtracking is OK because it’s your ‘downtime’ and a mental break after beating an area?

It seems to be a consistent complaint about this game which crudely seems to be basically Star Wars Dark Souls? Is there a reason it’s more obnoxious backtracking in Fallen Order? Dark Souls has a really cool art style and world that is probably fun to appreciate when sauntering about, is it not so much the case here?

I am currently enjoying my play of Breath of the Wild with self-imposed limits such as not using fast travel, I find it more immersive and I’m enjoying traversing the world but I imagine that’s not sustainable over a full game run,
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
November 26 2019 15:39 GMT
#25
On November 27 2019 00:21 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2019 21:06 Harris1st wrote:
On November 26 2019 05:29 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 25 2019 22:24 Harris1st wrote:
On November 25 2019 20:12 Wombat_NI wrote:
On November 25 2019 20:00 Harris1st wrote:
On November 23 2019 11:25 FreakyDroid wrote:
This game is very weird. The story and the characters seem very bland to me. The graphics are ok but nothing to write home about and the combos/skills that you get are so few and boring. And even that little you get from the combat portion of the game seems very clunky. Except the animations, I think those are decent but nothing spectacular. Every review I read about the game gives it high scores. But why? Is it because they want to encourage EA to make more single player games or perhaps the game is actually good and there's something wrong with me, lol I just dont get it.


Not sure what you expected TBH. I mean, sure, it's no Witcher 3 and it could be a bit more adult. But story'wise it is as Star Wars as it gets. Lightsabers, cute droids, light/dark force tug of war
Graphics are good. Almost no bugs. Game is actually finished at release. Combat is good and demanding.

All in all a really solid game with Star Wars flavor. Which is exactly what people were wanting for a loooong time

What would you rate it out of 100 incidentally?

‘Game is actually finished at release’ is quite depressing to be mentioned as a plus point for any game.

Probably will pick this up one of these days, passes the brief ‘looks good’ test and now I’m avoiding as many spoilers of specifics as I try to play games as blind as possible.

Looks like a good game with the Star Wars feel but they’re not leaning too hard on that as a crutch, as all the good SW games from my childhood were like. Dark Forces was a damn solid FPS, X-Wing and Tie Fighter were great combat flight sims etc.


I would rate it somewhere in the low-mid 80's I guess. Gun to my head: 82/100

Potential improvements:
- Fast travel (at least a few points)
- More skillpoints / skilltrees / different builds / RPG stuff
- Decisions which influence the story

‘Game is actually finished at release’ is quite depressing to be mentioned as a plus point for any game.
I know. Sad but true. You disagree?

Hope I didn't spoiler too much. I tried to avoid any specifics ^^'

Metacritic has it at 81 so you’re pretty on the consensus!

I don’t disagree at all but it’s just a depressing indictment on the industry. No spoilers thus far anyway! I just look enough information about a game to whet my appetite and then play it blind from there, and I don’t think anything has really been spoiled yet. I don’t really understand people who voraciously consume everything about a game because you never have that feeling of discovery and learning, it’s like dating a girl after you’ve seen her sex tape already.


Rofl that is a bad comparison :D
I completely understand your thoughts regarding a game. I mean figuring shit out is half the fun!
But I would most definitely still date the girl after I've seen her sex tape ^^

Tsk what’s wrong with a bit of mystery in romance? Youngsters these days :p

I think playing games from the age of 6 for the next 24 years as one of my main hobbies I’ve seen a lot of stuff before already so remaining relatively unspoiled is that much more important.

I know a vague bit about Dark Souls and am about to start playing through.

Opinions seem to vary but iirc a lot like how DS worked level design wise, with less fast travel to hubs like in some of the others, and that backtracking is OK because it’s your ‘downtime’ and a mental break after beating an area?

It seems to be a consistent complaint about this game which crudely seems to be basically Star Wars Dark Souls? Is there a reason it’s more obnoxious backtracking in Fallen Order? Dark Souls has a really cool art style and world that is probably fun to appreciate when sauntering about, is it not so much the case here?

I am currently enjoying my play of Breath of the Wild with self-imposed limits such as not using fast travel, I find it more immersive and I’m enjoying traversing the world but I imagine that’s not sustainable over a full game run,


Youngsters? I take that as a compliment I think I am actually older than you ^^

My first advice still stands btw: Get Origin Premiere for a month and try it out! 15$ is not wasted much if it's not you thing at all.
Me personally, I find all kinds of backtracking awful. Specially in games like this where everything can kill you if you are not careful. Much less a problem with, lets say Diablo, where you are lvl 60 in a lvl 20 area and everything just tickles you. Here even 2 stupid rats can kill you.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-26 16:30:54
November 26 2019 16:28 GMT
#26
On November 26 2019 08:47 FreakyDroid wrote:
...

I think people are bound to be generous because it's the first single player story driven Star Wars game in like 9 years, the first by EA and just generally one of the better ones as well (as well as being a finished game worth the full prize, I remember Force Unleashed 2 I had fully completed in terms of achievements and collectibles in under 12 hours while for Fallen Order it took over 30). For a first effort this was a much better game than I expected, so I'm inclined to rate it more highly. You seem to have expected more, so you rate it a bit lower.

In terms of Force Powers, to be honest you are simply limited because it's a game about a Jedi Padawan (with no training other than that) becoming a Jedi Knight. Every other single player Star Wars game where you were in control of a Force user allowed you the option to go to the Dark Side or to at least use its Force Powers (predominantly Force Lightning) to a certain extent, which also made sense within the story. For a Jedi using the Force in combat, beyond Push, Pull, Saber Throw and slowing down time, variety starts to get bleak.

In terms of gameplay I suppose the most similar game I've played this year is Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice. On all accounts, that's a superior game. But Fallen Order had its moments I absolutely adored as well. And I'd be more than happy if they made another.

On a different note, who killed y'all the most? My #1 struggle was the Oggdo Bogdo on Bogano cause I just went in with basically no skills and resources so I died a lot.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17442 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-26 17:42:06
November 26 2019 17:38 GMT
#27
On November 27 2019 01:28 Elentos wrote: Every other single player Star Wars game where you were in control of a Force user allowed you the option to go to the Dark Side or to at least use its Force Powers (predominantly Force Lightning) to a certain extent,

As a Jedi in Atari 2600 Star Wars Jedi Arena you didn't have the ability to "go to the dark side"

I'll bet you Star Wars video games getting fucked into the ground were a contributing influence on Adham, Morhaime, and Pearce deciding to go with their own home grown IP.
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-26 19:43:08
November 26 2019 19:42 GMT
#28
Not every game then but the point stands

+ Show Spoiler +
Also fully trained Cal at the end of the game is weaker than somewhat-trained Luke on Bespin in Episode 5.
In Force Unleashed the main character was balls to the walls ridiculously OP. And by that baseline you can still do a lot of fun stuff. Lots of throwing people around.
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BadHabits
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada45 Posts
November 26 2019 21:22 GMT
#29
just the way he moves in that game makes me cringe so choppy
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-27 09:11:43
November 27 2019 09:08 GMT
#30
On November 27 2019 06:22 BadHabits wrote:
just the way he moves in that game makes me cringe so choppy


That's what I think, too. Just yesterday I died multiple times, which was ofc leading to me knowing the way and every move by heart. But Cal.... you expect a Jedi to move a little more gracefully

On November 27 2019 01:28 Elentos wrote:
On a different note, who killed y'all the most? My #1 struggle was the Oggdo Bogdo on Bogano cause I just went in with basically no skills and resources so I died a lot.


That one was easy. I did him right at the beginning. Just need to be patient and bug him out with the doorframe

I think I died a lot at the first Zeffo Guardian statue thingy cause obviously I had no idea how to kill it. In general I die a lot if there is more than one enemy and not just blaster troopers
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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55570 Posts
November 27 2019 19:40 GMT
#31
On November 27 2019 18:08 Harris1st wrote:
That one was easy. I did him right at the beginning. Just need to be patient and bug him out with the doorframe

Anything to win, huh? Well, being an honorable man, I engaged him in his arena and got my shit pushed in until I learned the combat well enough.

That said, following that experience I focused so much on the dodging aspect of combat and much less on parrying which just made the game harder than it needed to be in some fights. That's a realization I had from watching others play the game after the fact.
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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7142 Posts
November 28 2019 08:56 GMT
#32
On November 28 2019 04:40 Elentos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2019 18:08 Harris1st wrote:
That one was easy. I did him right at the beginning. Just need to be patient and bug him out with the doorframe

Anything to win, huh? Well, being an honorable man, I engaged him in his arena and got my shit pushed in until I learned the combat well enough.

That said, following that experience I focused so much on the dodging aspect of combat and much less on parrying which just made the game harder than it needed to be in some fights. That's a realization I had from watching others play the game after the fact.


Playing on Grandmaster I use every tool I get. Even a doorframe

Though I'm ashamed to admit I had to lower the difficulty once

+ Show Spoiler +
The bounty hunter arena was just too much. It was either lower the difficulty or ragequit forever and destroy my PC


I dodge way more than I parry. Maybe I should change that
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oGoZenob
Profile Joined December 2011
France1503 Posts
May 05 2020 08:33 GMT
#33
If anyone is still playing, the game got a (free) upgrade yesterday, allowing you to play any enemies of the campaign in closed arenas. It has challenges where you have to defeat waves of enemies and shit. Pretty fun stuff =)
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