I don't mean to dilute the thread more but I disagree on both your points.
I sincerely think fox is currently more stable awper (based on me watching a lot of g2 games and the lans in the last couple of months, fox on certain maps is a no go to a site for the enemy team, they just don't go where he is when it's awp time, like cache, fox and jkaem on b, no go, maybe 2 rounds for the entire T half for the enemy team. Almost the same on inferno) and no contest he is way better rifler than allu.
Also, why do you think allu can speak Swedish? AFAIK, NIP were talking in English just because of him. It might be old news and he learned though, I don't know.
To be clear, I don't hate on allu, I really enjoy watching good CSGO and allu delivers, tbh every top 10 team is entertaining for me to watch, I don't have favorite team. G2 is the closest thing but I don't mind when they lose.

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

December 23 2015 22:17 GMT

#66

Allu can understand Swedish but he doesn't speak it iirc.

Fox has improved quite a bit and has been a stable player for G2 for a while now, Allu isn't an upgrade there. Even if he was it would only be an interesting thing if G2 struggled which it is not really, its steadily improving.

Luolis

Finland7169 Posts

December 23 2015 22:32 GMT

#67

I believe Natu mentioned in an interview, that Allu speaks swedish quite decently and that there wasnt really a communication problem. Besides Allu started learning swedish immediately when he joined nip. Do you really think hes that retarded to not speak it at the end of the year?

Luolis

Finland7169 Posts

December 23 2015 22:34 GMT

#68

On December 24 2015 05:28 hymn wrote:
I don't mean to dilute the thread more but I disagree on both your points.
I sincerely think fox is currently more stable awper (based on me watching a lot of g2 games and the lans in the last couple of months, fox on certain maps is a no go to a site for the enemy team, they just don't go where he is when it's awp time, like cache, fox and jkaem on b, no go, maybe 2 rounds for the entire T half for the enemy team. Almost the same on inferno) and no contest he is way better rifler than allu.
Also, why do you think allu can speak Swedish? AFAIK, NIP were talking in English just because of him. It might be old news and he learned though, I don't know.
To be clear, I don't hate on allu, I really enjoy watching good CSGO and allu delivers, tbh every top 10 team is entertaining for me to watch, I don't have favorite team. G2 is the closest thing but I don't mind when they lose.

Nah, wouldnt say Fox is a better rifler than Allu actually :D Also taking to account that Allu could bring quite an aggressive edge to their play its a possibility.

Still id wish hes going to Ence with the Roccat guys, as it seems Ence is returning to the scene, so im guessing theyre picking up Roccat and Allu will prolly go into the place of Cisu or smth

Kipsate

Netherlands45349 Posts

December 23 2015 22:36 GMT

#69

No I never said that, you have no idea of the way that G2 communicates ingame or how they would communicate ingame in Swedish and whether the communication in NiP suffices the same way it does in G2.

Moreover, my point was more that Allu isn't a significant improvement over Fox and it seems like G2 seems to be doing quite well right now, why take on the risk of taking Allu?

Luolis

Finland7169 Posts

December 23 2015 22:39 GMT

#70

On December 24 2015 07:36 Kipsate wrote:
No I never said that, you have no idea of the way that G2 communicates ingame or how they would communicate ingame in Swedish and whether the communication in NiP suffices the same way it does in G2.

Moreover, my point was more that Allu isn't a significant improvement over Fox and it seems like G2 seems to be doing quite well right now, why take on the risk of taking Allu?

Yea i wasnt really insisting that G2 should take Allu per se, or that they will for sure communicate in swedish. I was just speculating on the possibility of them wanting to communicate in Swedish and the possibility of them considering Allu an upgrade. I mostly just wonder on how everyone seems to think that Allu still doesnt speak swedish after a year of playing in a swedish team and learning swedish :D

amazingxkcd

GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts

December 24 2015 01:03 GMT

#71

fanboy dream: fox to Liquid

amazingxkcd

GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts

December 24 2015 07:12 GMT

#72

Ragnarork

France9034 Posts

December 24 2015 13:50 GMT

#73

On December 24 2015 10:03 amazingxkcd wrote:
fanboy dream: fox to Liquid

That I want badly. *_*

Also, I think he's overall a bit more well rounded player than allu. Just a bit, but still.

amazingxkcd

GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts

December 24 2015 22:42 GMT

#74

Aocowns

Norway6070 Posts

December 24 2015 23:12 GMT

#75

to chime in on the Allu-Fox thing: I'd say Fox is a more consistent CT-side awper than allu is, and i dont really see how some slightly more versatile rifling or T side awping from allu would help them that much. I mean theoretically, even Maikelele could do the T side awping if it came to a point where they needed someone to do it, right? and it seems Fox has some great chemistry going with the rest of the team

Ragnarork

France9034 Posts

December 25 2015 09:57 GMT

#76

Isn't there some potential for a new cool NA team right here?

hymn

Bulgaria832 Posts

December 25 2015 13:33 GMT

#77

On December 25 2015 18:57 Ragnarork wrote:
Isn't there some potential for a new cool NA team right here?

I certainly hope so.
But as Steinbeck put it “Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”.
It seems to be the same in CSGO - every good US player thinks he is the the best in the world instead of thinking how to get a few guys with the vision to make a team that's the best in the world.