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Ragnarork
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Last Edited: 2019-04-18 14:16:16
December 15 2015 22:11 GMT
#1
A list of the most notable recent (and past up to some point) transfers in the CS:GO pro scene. (Some really minor teams / transfers may not appear). Most recent first. Let's discuss them here as well!



2019 Q2

pl Virtus pro
+Vegi
+ Show Spoiler +
Virtus pro announce Vegi deal


eu HellRaisers
-hobbit(transfer list) +nukkye
+ Show Spoiler +
Nukkye joins HellRaisers, hobbit transfer listed


se Ninjas in Pyjamas
-draken +dennis
+ Show Spoiler +
Dennis returns to NiP starting lineup


fr Team LDLC
+MAJ3R +SIXER +roden +xms +Happy
+ Show Spoiler +

MAJ3R returns in new LDLC team
SIXER returns in LDLC
xms returns in new LDLC roster
LDLC trial roden
Happy offcialy out of Vitality; joins LDLC


ua Vega Squadron
+Dima
+ Show Spoiler +
Vega Squadron finalize roster with Dima


eu HellRaisers
+loWel
+ Show Spoiler +
HellRaisers make loWel signing official


fr Vitality
-Happy
+ Show Spoiler +
Happy offcialy out of Vitality; joins LDLC


eu mousesports
+Rejin(head coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
mousesports sign Rejin as head coach


us Cloud9
+cajunb
+ Show Spoiler +
Cloud9 add cajunb


fr Team LDLC
-devoduvek -to1nou -matHEND -SIXER -xms
+ Show Spoiler +
LDLC release roster


us Cloud9
-kioShiMa
+ Show Spoiler +
Cloud9 release kioShiMa


2019 Q1

eu GamerLegion
+Ex6TenZ +Scream +hampus +HS +nawwk +chrille(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
GamerLegion sign Uruguay team


dk OpTic
+MSL +niko
+ Show Spoiler +
OpTic add MSL and niko


dk OpTic
-cajunb
+ Show Spoiler +
OpTic and cajunb part ways


ru Winstrike
+bondik
+ Show Spoiler +
bondik joins Winstrike


pl Virtus.pro
-TOAO(benched)
+ Show Spoiler +
Virtus.pro bench TOAO


us Cloud9
+vice(trial)
+ Show Spoiler +
vice joins Cloud9 on trial


tr ex-Space Soldiers
-MAJ3R
+ Show Spoiler +
MAJ3R departs ex-Space Soldiers


us Rogue
-Hiko -vice -MSL -niko
+ Show Spoiler +
Rogue part ways with team


us compLexity
+SicK
+ Show Spoiler +
SicK signs for compLexity


us EnVyUs
-Drone -reltuC +s0m +ANDROID +FugLy
+ Show Spoiler +
EnVy add s0m Android FugLy


kz AVANGAR
-krizzen +SANJI(standin)
+ Show Spoiler +
Avangar Twitter


HellRaisers
+oskar +lmbt(coach) -DeadFox(benched)
+ Show Spoiler +
HellRaisers add oskar and lmbt


ru Gambit
-bondik -B1ad3
+ Show Spoiler +
Gambit release bondik and B1ad3


eu mouz
+karrigan +frozen +woxic +chrisJ -sunNy(inactive)
+ Show Spoiler +
Mouz complete roster with new trio


fr G2 Esports
-bodyy(benched) +AmaNEk
+ Show Spoiler +
G2 announce AmaNEk signing


dk Heroic
-AcilioN(benched)
+ Show Spoiler +
Heroic twitter


us Cloud9
-Zellsis(trial)
+ Show Spoiler +
Cloud9 confirm Zellsis departure


us Cloud9
-flusha +Golden
+ Show Spoiler +
Cloud9 CSGO update march


us NRG
+tarik -FugLy
+ Show Spoiler +
NRG make tarik signing official


se Team Ancient
+pronax +znajder +robiin +kreaz + Peppzor
+ Show Spoiler +
pronax, znajder recreate Ancient


eu Uruguay
+ScreaM +draken +Hampus +HS +Ex6TenZ
+ Show Spoiler +
ScreaM, draken headline new international team


fr G2 Esports
-Ex6TenZ
+ Show Spoiler +
G2 announce Ex6TenZ departure


tr ex-Space Soldiers
+yam +imoRR
+ Show Spoiler +
ex Space Soldiers add imoRR


pl Virtus.pro
-pashaBiceps
+ Show Spoiler +
Virtuspro release pashaBiceps


us EnVy
-karrigan(loan)
+ Show Spoiler +
karrigan announces EnVy exit


eu mousesports
-chrisJ(bench) -STYKO(bench) -LMBT(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
Mouz announcement


de BIG
-smooya +nex
+ Show Spoiler +
smooya steps down from BIG, nex returns


us Rogue
+niko
+ Show Spoiler +
Rogue sign niko


tr ex-Space Soldiers
-ngiN
+ Show Spoiler +
ngiN steps down from ex-Space Soldiers


br MIBR
-tarik(benched) +felps
+ Show Spoiler +
MIBR unveil felps


cn TyLoo
+Johnta(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
TyLoo appoints Johnta as coach


eu FaZe
+AdreN(stand-in for Katowice 2019) +YNk
+ Show Spoiler +
FaZe confirm AdreN signing; unveil YNk as coach


eu FaZe
-RobbaN(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
FaZe Twitter


fr Team LDLC
-AmaNek
+ Show Spoiler +
Amanek Twitter


us EnVy
+karrigan(loan)
+ Show Spoiler +
EnVy Twitter


2018 Q4

+ Show Spoiler +

dk OpTic Gaming
-niko +refrezh
+ Show Spoiler +
OpTic complete refrezh signing


[image loading] Gambit
-dimasick(bench) +bondik(trial)
+ Show Spoiler +
bondik joins Gambit


us Cloud9
-Golden(inactive) +Zellsis(trial)
+ Show Spoiler +
Cloud9 add Zellsis on trial


fr Vitality
+ALEX
+ Show Spoiler +
Vitality make ALEX signing official


fr Team LDLC
-ALEX
+ Show Spoiler +
Team LDLC twitter


fr Vitality
-Happy(benched)
+ Show Spoiler +
Vitality bench Happy


pl Virtus.pro
+MICHU +Snatchie +byali +Snax +TOAO
+ Show Spoiler +
Virtus pro add TOAO and bring back Snax, byali to form new roster


us compLexity
-ANDROID(bench)
+ Show Spoiler +
compLexity bench ANDROID


eu BIG
+xANTARES -nex(inactive)
+ Show Spoiler +

BIG confirm xANTARES addition
nex steps down from BIG


tr ex-Space Soldiers
-xANTARES
+ Show Spoiler +
BIG confirm xANTARES addition


us Team Liquid
+adreN(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
adreN returns to Liquid as coach


Hellraisers
-Johnta(coach) +aMi(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
Johnta leaves Hellraisers; aMi steps up to coach


br MIBR
+TACO +zews(coach) -Stewie2k
+ Show Spoiler +
TACO, zews transfer to MIBR; Stewie2k joins Liquid


us Team Liquid
-TACO -zews(coach) +Stewie2k
+ Show Spoiler +
TACO, zews transfer to MIBR; Stewie2k joins Liquid


us compLexity
-yay(benched) -Rambo(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
compLexity bench yay; Rambo departs


eu FaZe
-karrigan(benched)
+ Show Spoiler +
FaZe bench karrigan


pl Virtus pro
-NEO -pashaBiceps -snatchie -MICHU -morelz
+ Show Spoiler +
Virtuspro lineup ceases competition


eu Tempo Storm
-HS -innocent
+ Show Spoiler +
HS, innocent leave Tempo Storm


fr Vitality
+XTQZZZ(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
Vitality twitter


[image loading] Gambit
-AdreN
+ Show Spoiler +
Gambit release AdreN


fr G2 Esport
+JaCkz +Lucky -Smithzz(bench) -Ex6TenZ(bench)
+ Show Spoiler +
JaCkz and Lucky join G2; Smithzz and Ex6TenZ benched


eu Cloud9
+kioShiMa
+ Show Spoiler +
Cloud9 confirm kioShiMa signing


[image loading] Gambit
+Ax1le
+ Show Spoiler +
Gambit recruit Ax1le


HellRaisers
-bondik(free agent) +Hobbit
+ Show Spoiler +
HellRaisers confirm Hobbit acquisition


us Rogue
+MSL -kRYSTAL(inactive)
+ Show Spoiler +
MSL joins Rogue


se Fnatic
+Brollan
+ Show Spoiler +
Fnatic confirm Brollan signing


eu mousesports
-Snax(bench) +STYKO
+ Show Spoiler +
Official: mousesports bring STYKO back into starting lineup


tr Space Soldiers
-MAJE3 -xANTARES -ngiN -Calyx -paz
+ Show Spoiler +
Space Soldiers part ways with organization


au Renegades
+kassad(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
Official: kassad return to Renegades


fr Vitality
+apEX +Happy +NBK +ZywOo +RpK +faculty(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
Official: Vitality unveil new team


fr G2 Esports
-NBK -apEX
+ Show Spoiler +
G2 part ways with NBK, apEX


se Fnatic
+twist -draken(benched)
+ Show Spoiler +
Fnatic complete twist signing; draken benched


au Renegades
+liazz +gratisfaction
+ Show Spoiler +
Official: Renegades sign liazz and gratisfaction




2018 Q3

+ Show Spoiler +

au Renegades
-USTILO
+ Show Spoiler +
Renegades confirm USTILO's departure


dk OpTic Gaming
+niko
+ Show Spoiler +
RFRSH confirm niko move to OpTic


dk Heroic
-niko +mertz
+ Show Spoiler +

RFRSH confirm niko move to OpTic
Heroic announce mertz signing


dk North
-mertz
+ Show Spoiler +
Heroic announce mertz signing


us EnVyUs
+jdm +Nifty +Drone +SEMPHIS +reltuC +Eley(Coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
boxr becomes EnVy, Nifty and jdm join


au Renegades
-Nifty
+ Show Spoiler +
boxr becomes EnVy, Nifty and jdm join


dk North
+cadiaN -MSL(benched)
+ Show Spoiler +
MSL benched as North sign cadiaN; gade returns


us Rogue
-cadiaN
+ Show Spoiler +
MSL benched as North sign cadiaN; gade returns


us Cloud9
+flusha
+ Show Spoiler +
Flusha signs for Cloud9


fr G2 Esports
+maLeK(stand-in coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
maLeK joins as coach for ESL One New York


se Fnatic
-flusha(benched) +ScreaM(stand-in)
+ Show Spoiler +
Fnatic bench flusha; Scream to stand in at ESL One New York


pl Virtus pro
-byali +morelz
+ Show Spoiler +
morelz moved into Virtuspro starting line-up


eu Tempo Storm
-fox
+ Show Spoiler +
fox steps down from Tempo Storm


fi Ence
+Twista(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
Twista joins Ence as head coach


br NTC
-fnx -bit(benched) +horvy
+ Show Spoiler +
NTC add horvy, bit benched, fnx released


us Cloud9
+Golden
+ Show Spoiler +
Cloud9 confirm Golden signing


dk Heroic
+mertz -niko
+ Show Spoiler +
North, Heroic confirm niko-mertz exchange


dk North
-mertz +niko
+ Show Spoiler +
North, Heroic confirm niko-mertz exchange


pl AGO
-SZPERO
+ Show Spoiler +
AGO sign SZPERO


eu Imperial
+hAdji +pounh
+ Show Spoiler +
Imperial sign hAdji, pounh


pl AGO
-snatchie
+ Show Spoiler +
Virtus.pro confirm snatchie signing


pl Virtus.pro
+Snatchie
+ Show Spoiler +
Virtus.pro confirm snatchie signing


br MIBR
+YNk(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
MIBR unveil YNk as coach


[image loading] FlipSid3 Tactics
-lollipop21k
+ Show Spoiler +
lollipop21k leaves FlipSid3


us Cloud9
-FNS
+ Show Spoiler +
FNS announces free agency


[image loading] Gambit
+B1ad3(coach, loan)
+ Show Spoiler +
B1ad3 joins Gambit as coach on loan


kz AVANGAR
-dimasick(transfer list) +fitch
+ Show Spoiler +
fitch joins AVANGAR, dimasick on transfer list


FlipSid3 Tactics
-B1ad3 +B1ad3(coach) -WorldEdit(transfer list) -lollipop21k(transfer list)
+ Show Spoiler +
WorldEdit, lollipop21K transfer listed by FlipSid3, B1ad3 becomes coach


br mibr
+tarik -boltz
+ Show Spoiler +
mibr confirm tarik signing


us Cloud9
-tarik
+ Show Spoiler +
Cloud9 confirm Tarik exit


dk Heroic
-RUBINO +AcilioN
+ Show Spoiler +
Heroic sign AcilioN, RUBINO released



2018 Q2

+ Show Spoiler +


[image loading] Gambit
+mir
+ Show Spoiler +
mir completes trial, joins Gambit on permanent basis


eu Mousesports
-STYKO +Snax
+ Show Spoiler +
Mousesports replace STYKO with Snax


pl Virtus.pro
-Snax
+ Show Spoiler +
Mousesports replace STYKO with Snax


br Immortals / mibr
+fer +FalleN +Stewie +boltz +coldzera +dead(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
Immortals confirm mibr acquisition; unveil ex-SK roster


br SK Gaming
-fer -FalleN -Stewie -boltz -coldzera +dead(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
Immortals confirm mibr acquisition; unveil ex-SK roster


fr EnVyUs
-Happy -RpK -ScreaM -xms -kioShiMa -hAdji
+ Show Spoiler +
Official: EnVyUs release CSGO rosters


se Fnatic
-Golden +draken
+ Show Spoiler +
Official: draken joins Fnatic


se Red Reserve
+twist +Brollan +disco doplan +freddieb +hampus +naSu(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
Red Reserve sign GODSENT roster


se GODSENT
-twist -Brollan -disco doplan -freddieb -hampus -naSu(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
Red Reserve sign GODSENT roster


br Luminosity
-SHOOWTiME -PKL +HEN1 +LUCAS1
+ Show Spoiler +
Luminosity: SHOOWTiME, PKL out; HEN1, LUCAS1 in


[image loading] Gambit
-Andi(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
Andi steps down from Gambit


se NiP
-draken +Lekr0
+ Show Spoiler +
NiP replace draken with Lekr0


fr G2 Esports
+shox +Ex6TenZ(stand-in) +SmithZz -apEX(bench) -NBK(bench)
+ Show Spoiler +
shox returns to G2 ahead of ECS Finals; apEX, NBK benched


[image loading] Gambit
-seized +mir(trial)
+ Show Spoiler +
Official: Gambit part ways with seized; mir on trial


us Cloud9
-FNS(inactive)
+ Show Spoiler +
Cloud9 Twitter


se Fnatic
+Xizt -Lekr0(bench)
+ Show Spoiler +
Fnatic sign Xizt as Lekr0 is benched


au Renegades
-kassad(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
Kassad twitter


eu LDLC
+AmaNek +devoduvek
+ Show Spoiler +
AmaNek and devoduvek officially part of LDLC


eu Sprout
-kRYSTAL
+ Show Spoiler +
kRYSTAL and Sprout part ways


dk Heroic
+friberg
+ Show Spoiler +
friberg signs for Heroic


fr EnVyUs
-maleK(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
EnVyUs release maleK


eu Tempo Storm
+fox +loWel +SOKER +Innocent +HS
+ Show Spoiler +
Tempo Storm unveil European team with fox, HS


eu Sprout
-Innocent
+ Show Spoiler +
Innocent leaves Sprout


dk Heroic
-peacemaker(coach) +-MODDI(player-coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
peacemaker steps down from Heroic, MODDI becomes player-coach


us compLexity
+stanislaw +ShaZhaM -ptr(backup) -Slemmy(backup)
+ Show Spoiler +
compLexity sign ShaZhaM, stanislaw


dk OpTic Gaming
-stanislaw -ShaZhaM -ImAPet(coach) +JUGi +Snappi +ruggah(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
OpTic confirm Snappi, JUGi signing


[image loading] FlipSid3
+lollipop21k
+ Show Spoiler +
lollipop21k joins FlipSid3


ru Vega Squadron
-mir(benched) -keshandr(benched)
+ Show Spoiler +
Vega Squadron bench keshandr, mir


us Team Liquid
-steel +TACO
+ Show Spoiler +
Official: TACO signs for Liquid


br Não Tem Como
+kNg
+ Show Spoiler +
kNg joins up with NTC


fi ENCE
+Aleksib +Aerial +xseveN +sergej
+ Show Spoiler +
ENCE reveal new roster


us Cloud9
+FNS
+ Show Spoiler +
Cloud9 add FNS


eu FaZe
-olofmeister(leave of absence) +Xizt(standin)
+ Show Spoiler +
Xizt joins FaZe as olofmeister takes leave of absence




2018 Q1

+ Show Spoiler +


br SK Gaming
+Stewie2k
+ Show Spoiler +
Stewie2k links up with SK squad


us Cloud9
-Skadoodle -Stewie2k
+ Show Spoiler +

Skadoodle announces inactivity
[url=https://www.hltv.org/news/23177/cloud9-confirm-stewie2k-exit]Cloud9 confirm Stewie2k exit


br SK Gaming
-TACO
+ Show Spoiler +
TACO confirms SK exit


pl Kinguin
-MICHU +TaZ
+ Show Spoiler +
MICHU signs for Virtuspro; TaZ transferred to Kinguin


pl Virtus.pro
-TaZ +MICHU
+ Show Spoiler +
MICHU signs for Virtuspro; TaZ transferred to Kinguin


br Não Tem Como
-HEN1 -LUCAS1
+ Show Spoiler +
HEN1, LUCAS1 leave NTC


fi ENCE
+allu
+ Show Spoiler +
ENCE reveal allu return


fr G2 Esports
-shox(backup) -SmithZz(backup) +Mixwell(trial)
+ Show Spoiler +
G2 to trial Mixwell as shox replacement


de Sprout
+NaToSaphiX
+ Show Spoiler +
NaToSaphix finishes trial, signs for Sprout


dk Heroic
-es3tag +RUBINO
+ Show Spoiler +
Official: RUBINO replaces es3tag in Heroic squad


se Ninjas in Pyjamas
-xizt +dennis
+ Show Spoiler +
dennis joins NiP; xizt steps down


us Misfits
-devoduvek -AmaNek
+ Show Spoiler +
devoduvek and AmaNek released from Misfits


de BIG
+tiziaN
+ Show Spoiler +
BIG sign tiziaN


au Renegades
+jkaem
+ Show Spoiler +
jkaem to step in for Renegades


eu Team LDLC
+logaN
+ Show Spoiler +
neL's Twitter


dk OpTic Gaming
+k0nfig +stanislaw +ShaZhaM +cajunb +gade
+ Show Spoiler +
OpTic unveil new roster


dk Astralis
+Magisk
+ Show Spoiler +
Astralis sign Magisk


eu OpTic Gaming
-Mixwell -Magisk
+ Show Spoiler +

Mixwell twitter
[url=https://www.hltv.org/news/22729/magisk-leaves-optic]Magisk leaves OpTic


fr Team EnVyUs
-SIXER(benched) +hAdji
+ Show Spoiler +
EnVyUs promote hAdji to first team as sixer is benched


eu Team LDLC
-Ex6TenZ
+ Show Spoiler +
Ex6TenZ on the way out of LDLC


hu GameAgents
+Zero
+ Show Spoiler +
Zero back in action with GameAgents


kz Gambit
-fitch(benched) +seized
+ Show Spoiler +
seized joins Gambit, fitch on transfer list


pl Virtus.pro
-TaZ(benched) +MICHU(on loan from Kinguin)
+ Show Spoiler +
MICHU joins Virtus.pro on loan, TaZ benched


de BIG
-LEGIJA -keev(benched)
+ Show Spoiler +
Legija steps down from BIG, keev benched


us Team Liquid
-jdm +NAF
+ Show Spoiler +
NAF completes Liquid move


eu Sprout
-zehn
+ Show Spoiler +
Sprout twitter


fr Team EnVyUs
-xms +kioShiMa
+ Show Spoiler +
Official: kioShiMa joins EnVyUs


dk North
+Kjaerbye
+ Show Spoiler +
Kjaerbye confirms North move


se Ninjas in Pyjamas
-THREAT(coach) +pita(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
THREAT steps down from NiP, pita joins


br 100Thieves
-fnx -LUCAS1 -HEN1 -bit
+ Show Spoiler +
100Thieves withdraw from CS:GO


dk North
-cajunb +mertz
+ Show Spoiler +
North replace cajunb with mertz


dk North
-ruggah(coach) +ave(coach)
+ Show Spoiler +
ave takes over as North's coach


us Misfits
-SicK -ShahZhaM -sgares
+ Show Spoiler +
Misfits trio to explore options as contracts expire


br 100 Thieves
-kNg
+ Show Spoiler +
Official: 100 Thieves release kNg


eu Kinguin
-SZPERO -kap3r +fox +MUTiRiS
+ Show Spoiler +
[url=https://www.hltv.org/news/22372/fox-mutiris-sign-for-kinguin]fox, MUTiRiS sign for Kinguin


us CLG
-retluC
+ Show Spoiler +
[url=https://twitter.com/reltuc/status/947963139764703232]reltuC on Twitter



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December 15 2015 23:24 GMT
#2
allu to liquid would be wierd, but exciting
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 15 2015 23:31 GMT
#3
Allu is super inconsistent but his top AWPing performances are way better then Adren on any given day I suppose.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 00:09:19
December 16 2015 00:08 GMT
#4

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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 16 2015 00:49 GMT
#5
having hiko and fugly is wierd, given both are lurkers. so adren will just be rifling and hopefully imrpove his igl (he better) and allu full time rifler
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MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
December 16 2015 00:54 GMT
#6
why fugly??? just make adren step down...make him coach with James.
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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 01:06:01
December 16 2015 01:04 GMT
#7


A different story? Seems like it's nearly decided.

I dunno, I doubt that this is the best outcome possible but we shall see.



LMAO

Not that surprising though. adreN is the reason this team exists at all. He would have to choose to stop playing to be uprooted.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 16 2015 01:25 GMT
#8
ayyyy lmao
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Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
December 16 2015 03:06 GMT
#9
I'm starting to be less annoyed by all the adren hate and have begun to take pleasure from all the people who want him gone. Feed me you're hate and you're frustrations, I love it.

Also it's no surprise because fugly has been the one person who has been on and off that team multiple times. Clearly there's a breakdown somewhere.
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 03:31:52
December 16 2015 03:31 GMT
#10
fugly subbing for cloud9
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 16 2015 07:26 GMT
#11
Will it be bot Allu or god Allu is the question as always.

Did he call on 3d max? He is a solid individual player but that is not what NA neccesarily needs and he doesnt seem to be the typ to teach then "European style" but I could be wrong
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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 16 2015 08:41 GMT
#12
What is Liquid doing....?
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iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
December 16 2015 11:03 GMT
#13
What about letting adreN call as 6th man?
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
December 16 2015 13:44 GMT
#14
I honestly thought that Fugly needs cut too but Adren needs to go first. I feel bad for fugly being the scapegoat when adren is the one holding this team back. Liquid bringing adren out of retirement was the worst mistake they have made, the second worst being giving him complete control of the roster basically. Adren is not worth keeping around in any way shape or form. He isn't even that popular.

My only fear now is that signing Allu might expose him as the player he really is. I imagine its a lot easier to perform well when you have legends like forest getright and xizt backing you up. I hope he is up to the task.
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 13:50:39
December 16 2015 13:46 GMT
#15
Giving him control over the roster is fine, the changes he has made so far have all been good. The problem is he shouldn't be having control over his own position within the squad and should just take a step back from playing.

That said, any IGL's available to teamliquid at the moment?

edit: One thing, are you questioning Allu? The guy was a monster in weaker teams, it was at NiP where he was lacklustre until F0rest took a different role in the team.
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 16 2015 13:50 GMT
#16
On December 16 2015 22:46 Ysellian wrote:
Giving him control over the roster is fine, the changes he has made so far have all been good. The problem is he shouldn't be having control over his own position within the squad and should just take a step back from playing.

That said, any IGL's available to teamliquid at the moment?


Pronax?



And I still do not think that a 6th man as coach/IGL does work out. I think the IGL has to be on the battlefield to find the correct decisions during the whole game, to feel how good the enemy works here and there and to find anticipating strategies.
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Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 13:57:12
December 16 2015 13:56 GMT
#17
On December 16 2015 22:50 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 22:46 Ysellian wrote:
Giving him control over the roster is fine, the changes he has made so far have all been good. The problem is he shouldn't be having control over his own position within the squad and should just take a step back from playing.

That said, any IGL's available to teamliquid at the moment?


Pronax?



And I still do not think that a 6th man as coach/IGL does work out. I think the IGL has to be on the battlefield to find the correct decisions during the whole game, to feel how good the enemy works here and there and to find anticipating strategies.


Pronax would be ideal of course, but not sure if he even wants to continue playing.

I think Navi handle things really well. You have Zeus who handles the ingame midround calls, but Starix handles the strat calling and coaching. It can work, but I agree you still need someone ingame of course.
HugoBallzak
Profile Joined November 2015
700 Posts
December 16 2015 14:17 GMT
#18
On December 16 2015 22:50 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 22:46 Ysellian wrote:
Giving him control over the roster is fine, the changes he has made so far have all been good. The problem is he shouldn't be having control over his own position within the squad and should just take a step back from playing.

That said, any IGL's available to teamliquid at the moment?


Pronax?



And I still do not think that a 6th man as coach/IGL does work out. I think the IGL has to be on the battlefield to find the correct decisions during the whole game, to feel how good the enemy works here and there and to find anticipating strategies.


Seems to work ok for navi. I don't buy into the idea that the IGL has to be playing himself. No other sport really does this. In cs its that way because the idea of paying the salary of a guy who doesn't even play was unheard of until recently. I am pretty sure this will become the norm within a few years as teams learn they can stack their 5 man roster with star fraggers who don't have to worry about controlling anyone other than themselves.
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 16 2015 15:50 GMT
#19
On December 16 2015 22:50 Clonester wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 22:46 Ysellian wrote:
Giving him control over the roster is fine, the changes he has made so far have all been good. The problem is he shouldn't be having control over his own position within the squad and should just take a step back from playing.

That said, any IGL's available to teamliquid at the moment?


Pronax?



And I still do not think that a 6th man as coach/IGL does work out. I think the IGL has to be on the battlefield to find the correct decisions during the whole game, to feel how good the enemy works here and there and to find anticipating strategies.

They're trying to ask to see if tournament orgs would setup a 6th computer for the coach to spectate through the players. The option is already available in game to allow for a coach.
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Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
December 16 2015 16:09 GMT
#20
On December 17 2015 00:50 Nagisama wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 22:50 Clonester wrote:
On December 16 2015 22:46 Ysellian wrote:
Giving him control over the roster is fine, the changes he has made so far have all been good. The problem is he shouldn't be having control over his own position within the squad and should just take a step back from playing.

That said, any IGL's available to teamliquid at the moment?


Pronax?



And I still do not think that a 6th man as coach/IGL does work out. I think the IGL has to be on the battlefield to find the correct decisions during the whole game, to feel how good the enemy works here and there and to find anticipating strategies.

They're trying to ask to see if tournament orgs would setup a 6th computer for the coach to spectate through the players. The option is already available in game to allow for a coach.


I know that the Coach can do it, in alot of online leagues you see things like "now the coach just has to go to the coach slot and we can start playing". And shure, he needs his own PC at a LAN. But still I dont see it work often. My opinion is still that a IGL needs to be in the game to read the enemy the best way possible.
Shure, in most sports the coach gives the general strategy from the sideline and not from the field, but there is often still a captain leading on the field. I can see how the IGL will be divided into player/captain and coach/headstrategie, but outsourcing the IGL completly for a 5th mad fragger, I do not see this working. A coach will never have the direct feel a player gets during the game for the enemy and his plays.
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