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AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
August 17 2016 21:57 GMT
#1421
On August 18 2016 05:40 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 05:12 Poopi wrote:
On August 18 2016 04:58 Orcasgt24 wrote:
The only scripted Mons are the starters you see when you make you character at first. Eggs are random. Completely random. I think what's in each egg is determined when we get the egg in our inventory but it might also be randomed when it hatches (I doubt this is the case because their could be ways to mess with the RNG and get something else).

Low lvl eggs gives limited CP in the same fashion wild pokemons become better by levelling up.

Egg pokemon hatch at the exact level as you were when you got the egg to a maximum of level 20. Wild Pokemon are anywhere from 1 to your level with a cap of level 30.

I was referring to the Pokemon species only in my post


Oh? I assumed it was starting the incubation at least
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
August 18 2016 00:29 GMT
#1422
I'm not sure you guys but I think this might be some kinda bug.

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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 18 2016 01:11 GMT
#1423
It's an exploit that's been floating around for a while, where you can stick an egg in a gym to keep it indefinitely
Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
August 18 2016 01:13 GMT
#1424
On August 18 2016 10:11 Chairman Ray wrote:
It's an exploit that's been floating around for a while, where you can stick an egg in a gym to keep it indefinitely

you mean like an incubator egg? how do you do that?
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
August 18 2016 01:22 GMT
#1425
On August 18 2016 10:13 Assault_1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 10:11 Chairman Ray wrote:
It's an exploit that's been floating around for a while, where you can stick an egg in a gym to keep it indefinitely

you mean like an incubator egg? how do you do that?


You make an API call to stick your egg in the gym. Can't do it through the UI. People have been sticking eggs in gyms using a new lvl 5 account, and then putting pokemon from their main account into the gym, so that they hold it indefinitely.
randombum
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2378 Posts
August 18 2016 03:47 GMT
#1426
level 20 and a question about higher cp vs iv%. so I have 40 eevee candy and three different eevees I have to decide from to make a vaporeon. I have a 605 cp 65% iv. a 587 cp 73 to 78 iv. and a 366 cp with around 96% iv. not sure which one to evolve. the 605 or 587 will evolve to be stronger than any of my current pokemom, but if I plan to keep powering up the vaporeon long term the 96% will obviously be better.

so I guess it comes down to is the 96% worth using a bit more candy on?
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-18 04:59:47
August 18 2016 04:59 GMT
#1427
On August 18 2016 12:47 randombum wrote:
level 20 and a question about higher cp vs iv%. so I have 40 eevee candy and three different eevees I have to decide from to make a vaporeon. I have a 605 cp 65% iv. a 587 cp 73 to 78 iv. and a 366 cp with around 96% iv. not sure which one to evolve. the 605 or 587 will evolve to be stronger than any of my current pokemom, but if I plan to keep powering up the vaporeon long term the 96% will obviously be better.

so I guess it comes down to is the 96% worth using a bit more candy on?

Honestly I wouldn't evolve any of them unless you really want to evolve one just because. I would wait, a few more levels and you'll be getting a shitton of 700-800+cp eevees. Dust is the real limiting factor in this game.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4550 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-18 06:43:03
August 18 2016 06:42 GMT
#1428
On August 18 2016 13:59 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 12:47 randombum wrote:
level 20 and a question about higher cp vs iv%. so I have 40 eevee candy and three different eevees I have to decide from to make a vaporeon. I have a 605 cp 65% iv. a 587 cp 73 to 78 iv. and a 366 cp with around 96% iv. not sure which one to evolve. the 605 or 587 will evolve to be stronger than any of my current pokemom, but if I plan to keep powering up the vaporeon long term the 96% will obviously be better.

so I guess it comes down to is the 96% worth using a bit more candy on?

Honestly I wouldn't evolve any of them unless you really want to evolve one just because. I would wait, a few more levels and you'll be getting a shitton of 700-800+cp eevees. Dust is the real limiting factor in this game.


Depends entirely where you live. I get 10k+ Stardust a day and it's never been a limiting factor. Got 3 powerful pokemon at max CP and still over 300K dust. Level 28 now and in the time it takes me to earn a level I've earned triple the dust required to power these guys up to max again.

Eevee candy is more of a problem over here.

@OP: If Eevee candy is easy to come by for you, go with the highest IV one you have and evolve it into Vaporeon with the naming trick. Pray you get Hydro Pump b/c the naming trick only works once. If you don't get Hydro Pump you'll have to evolve some more Eevees with a 1/9 chance of getting the optimal moveset Vaporeon.. GL
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6981 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-18 07:30:57
August 18 2016 07:28 GMT
#1429
On August 18 2016 06:57 AbouSV wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 05:40 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On August 18 2016 05:12 Poopi wrote:
On August 18 2016 04:58 Orcasgt24 wrote:
The only scripted Mons are the starters you see when you make you character at first. Eggs are random. Completely random. I think what's in each egg is determined when we get the egg in our inventory but it might also be randomed when it hatches (I doubt this is the case because their could be ways to mess with the RNG and get something else).

Low lvl eggs gives limited CP in the same fashion wild pokemons become better by levelling up.

Egg pokemon hatch at the exact level as you were when you got the egg to a maximum of level 20. Wild Pokemon are anywhere from 1 to your level with a cap of level 30.

I was referring to the Pokemon species only in my post


Oh? I assumed it was starting the incubation at least


Is this for real? Well that shattered all my hopes and dreams of finally getting sth good...

EDIT: You guys play this game way to hardcore. With all the hacks and bots and bugs and bad mechanics I can't even begin to understand how one can become so invested in this game... and I grinded my way into Masters in HotS, so it's not lack of ambition ^^
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4550 Posts
August 18 2016 07:36 GMT
#1430
On August 18 2016 16:28 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 06:57 AbouSV wrote:
On August 18 2016 05:40 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On August 18 2016 05:12 Poopi wrote:
On August 18 2016 04:58 Orcasgt24 wrote:
The only scripted Mons are the starters you see when you make you character at first. Eggs are random. Completely random. I think what's in each egg is determined when we get the egg in our inventory but it might also be randomed when it hatches (I doubt this is the case because their could be ways to mess with the RNG and get something else).

Low lvl eggs gives limited CP in the same fashion wild pokemons become better by levelling up.

Egg pokemon hatch at the exact level as you were when you got the egg to a maximum of level 20. Wild Pokemon are anywhere from 1 to your level with a cap of level 30.

I was referring to the Pokemon species only in my post


Oh? I assumed it was starting the incubation at least


Is this for real? Well that shattered all my hopes and dreams of finally getting sth good...

EDIT: You guys play this game way to hardcore. With all the hacks and bots and bugs and bad mechanics I can't even begin to understand how one can become so invested in this game... and I grinded my way into Masters in HotS, so it's not lack of ambition ^^


How are your hopes and dreams shattered lmao. Just get a 10 km egg AFTER hitting lvl 20 and it'll be a lvl 20 rare pokemon.

And personally I'm playing to fill up the pokedex, hacks and bots don't affect me. By bad mechanics I assume you mean the tracker then? There are various workarounds
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-18 08:25:52
August 18 2016 08:04 GMT
#1431
+ Show Spoiler +
My PTC account got banned for using a tracker site. Got the email a few hours ago

Thankfully my main is ok.


edit: Turns out there is a phishing scam making its way through the spam filters by spoofing the exact Niantic auto email address.

There is also a legitimate ban wave occurring though because dozens on the silph road reddit are reporting there tracker ptc accounts have indeed been banned. So my advice to TL is if you get a ban email. Don't click the links in it. Go to Niantics page yourself and look for the appeal ban page.
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6981 Posts
August 18 2016 08:35 GMT
#1432
On August 18 2016 16:36 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 16:28 Harris1st wrote:
On August 18 2016 06:57 AbouSV wrote:
On August 18 2016 05:40 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On August 18 2016 05:12 Poopi wrote:
On August 18 2016 04:58 Orcasgt24 wrote:
The only scripted Mons are the starters you see when you make you character at first. Eggs are random. Completely random. I think what's in each egg is determined when we get the egg in our inventory but it might also be randomed when it hatches (I doubt this is the case because their could be ways to mess with the RNG and get something else).

Low lvl eggs gives limited CP in the same fashion wild pokemons become better by levelling up.

Egg pokemon hatch at the exact level as you were when you got the egg to a maximum of level 20. Wild Pokemon are anywhere from 1 to your level with a cap of level 30.

I was referring to the Pokemon species only in my post


Oh? I assumed it was starting the incubation at least


Is this for real? Well that shattered all my hopes and dreams of finally getting sth good...

EDIT: You guys play this game way to hardcore. With all the hacks and bots and bugs and bad mechanics I can't even begin to understand how one can become so invested in this game... and I grinded my way into Masters in HotS, so it's not lack of ambition ^^


How are your hopes and dreams shattered lmao. Just get a 10 km egg AFTER hitting lvl 20 and it'll be a lvl 20 rare pokemon.

And personally I'm playing to fill up the pokedex, hacks and bots don't affect me. By bad mechanics I assume you mean the tracker then? There are various workarounds


I got 3 x 10km eggs in atm and I am lvl 20. but the eggs are all from before so...

Ye the tracking, the sometimes seemingly random catching, lack of content,... the usual. Oh, and the big city advantage is quite annoying
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-18 15:14:38
August 18 2016 15:13 GMT
#1433
On August 18 2016 15:42 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 13:59 NotSorry wrote:
On August 18 2016 12:47 randombum wrote:
level 20 and a question about higher cp vs iv%. so I have 40 eevee candy and three different eevees I have to decide from to make a vaporeon. I have a 605 cp 65% iv. a 587 cp 73 to 78 iv. and a 366 cp with around 96% iv. not sure which one to evolve. the 605 or 587 will evolve to be stronger than any of my current pokemom, but if I plan to keep powering up the vaporeon long term the 96% will obviously be better.

so I guess it comes down to is the 96% worth using a bit more candy on?

Honestly I wouldn't evolve any of them unless you really want to evolve one just because. I would wait, a few more levels and you'll be getting a shitton of 700-800+cp eevees. Dust is the real limiting factor in this game.


Depends entirely where you live. I get 10k+ Stardust a day and it's never been a limiting factor. Got 3 powerful pokemon at max CP and still over 300K dust. Level 28 now and in the time it takes me to earn a level I've earned triple the dust required to power these guys up to max again.

Eevee candy is more of a problem over here.

@OP: If Eevee candy is easy to come by for you, go with the highest IV one you have and evolve it into Vaporeon with the naming trick. Pray you get Hydro Pump b/c the naming trick only works once. If you don't get Hydro Pump you'll have to evolve some more Eevees with a 1/9 chance of getting the optimal moveset Vaporeon.. GL


Hydro Pump is a bit overrated, as long as you don't get Water Pulse you should be fine as there's good reasons to have both pump and aqua tail. Hydro Pump is only the best theoretical damage, the practical damage is a lot more complex.

The other thing you can do with a high IV low CP Eevee is save it for a Jolteon or Flareon later on down the road.

Basically all should I evolve/power up questions come down to a simple thing... what is your return on investment. If you want to play 'ideally' you should only power up and evolve pokemon when they will give you a good return. For Pidgeys this is your lucky egg evolution spree. For fighting pokemon you really only want to evolve & power up when doing so lets you accomplish something in gyms you otherwise couldn't.

In terms of long term vs short term goals (i.e investing heavily into a lower CP Vaporeon or the lower IV one)... generally it depends on your situation and again what the return is vs investing (i.e if you invest in a high IV Vaporeon and power it up how long until the vaporeon makes you back the dust you spent on it). You could easily just evolve the high CP one and not invest in it (though this makes it tougher to make a 2nd Vaporeon later) just to take gyms for awhile if Eevee candy is easy for you to come by.
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ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22208 Posts
August 18 2016 15:53 GMT
#1434
rip, why did my vaporeon have to get water pulse
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
August 18 2016 20:45 GMT
#1435
im level 26. just caught a CP 41 snorlax in my local park. feels good.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
August 19 2016 00:59 GMT
#1436
So.. I don't get why people don't complain about the battling more? Like people got all mad about the tracker changes, but I haven't heard anyone complain about the battling and it's broken as hell.

Or am I the only one who notices that attacks very regularly desync from their animation? People talk about beating pokemon with really lower CP pokemon by dodging but I tend to just assume they're either very lucky or lying or something because attacks seem to have a 10-20% chance to be synced from their animation and thus unavoidable.
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ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
August 19 2016 02:15 GMT
#1437
On August 18 2016 13:59 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 12:47 randombum wrote:
level 20 and a question about higher cp vs iv%. so I have 40 eevee candy and three different eevees I have to decide from to make a vaporeon. I have a 605 cp 65% iv. a 587 cp 73 to 78 iv. and a 366 cp with around 96% iv. not sure which one to evolve. the 605 or 587 will evolve to be stronger than any of my current pokemom, but if I plan to keep powering up the vaporeon long term the 96% will obviously be better.

so I guess it comes down to is the 96% worth using a bit more candy on?

Honestly I wouldn't evolve any of them unless you really want to evolve one just because. I would wait, a few more levels and you'll be getting a shitton of 700-800+cp eevees. Dust is the real limiting factor in this game.


I don't think dust will continue to be the limiting factor as people progress--it takes exponentially longer between levels, and you only get two new power-ups per level (while gaining the next level you'll have to be getting a shitton of stardust).
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-19 03:46:22
August 19 2016 03:46 GMT
#1438
On August 19 2016 00:13 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 15:42 Laurens wrote:
On August 18 2016 13:59 NotSorry wrote:
On August 18 2016 12:47 randombum wrote:
level 20 and a question about higher cp vs iv%. so I have 40 eevee candy and three different eevees I have to decide from to make a vaporeon. I have a 605 cp 65% iv. a 587 cp 73 to 78 iv. and a 366 cp with around 96% iv. not sure which one to evolve. the 605 or 587 will evolve to be stronger than any of my current pokemom, but if I plan to keep powering up the vaporeon long term the 96% will obviously be better.

so I guess it comes down to is the 96% worth using a bit more candy on?

Honestly I wouldn't evolve any of them unless you really want to evolve one just because. I would wait, a few more levels and you'll be getting a shitton of 700-800+cp eevees. Dust is the real limiting factor in this game.


Depends entirely where you live. I get 10k+ Stardust a day and it's never been a limiting factor. Got 3 powerful pokemon at max CP and still over 300K dust. Level 28 now and in the time it takes me to earn a level I've earned triple the dust required to power these guys up to max again.

Eevee candy is more of a problem over here.

@OP: If Eevee candy is easy to come by for you, go with the highest IV one you have and evolve it into Vaporeon with the naming trick. Pray you get Hydro Pump b/c the naming trick only works once. If you don't get Hydro Pump you'll have to evolve some more Eevees with a 1/9 chance of getting the optimal moveset Vaporeon.. GL


Hydro Pump is a bit overrated, as long as you don't get Water Pulse you should be fine as there's good reasons to have both pump and aqua tail. Hydro Pump is only the best theoretical damage, the practical damage is a lot more complex.

The other thing you can do with a high IV low CP Eevee is save it for a Jolteon or Flareon later on down the road.

Basically all should I evolve/power up questions come down to a simple thing... what is your return on investment. If you want to play 'ideally' you should only power up and evolve pokemon when they will give you a good return. For Pidgeys this is your lucky egg evolution spree. For fighting pokemon you really only want to evolve & power up when doing so lets you accomplish something in gyms you otherwise couldn't.

In terms of long term vs short term goals (i.e investing heavily into a lower CP Vaporeon or the lower IV one)... generally it depends on your situation and again what the return is vs investing (i.e if you invest in a high IV Vaporeon and power it up how long until the vaporeon makes you back the dust you spent on it). You could easily just evolve the high CP one and not invest in it (though this makes it tougher to make a 2nd Vaporeon later) just to take gyms for awhile if Eevee candy is easy for you to come by.


When I fight against Hydro Pump it doesn't seem to announce the move til after he does it, when other moves seem to announce before so you know it's an important dodge. Most of the time the only tell for hydro pump is a somewhat longer delay than usual before the move comes out, so I find it more deadly on defense too than aqua tail, which seems to be easier to dodge.

Dunno if that's a lag thing or what.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4550 Posts
August 19 2016 07:55 GMT
#1439
On August 19 2016 00:13 Logo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 15:42 Laurens wrote:
On August 18 2016 13:59 NotSorry wrote:
On August 18 2016 12:47 randombum wrote:
level 20 and a question about higher cp vs iv%. so I have 40 eevee candy and three different eevees I have to decide from to make a vaporeon. I have a 605 cp 65% iv. a 587 cp 73 to 78 iv. and a 366 cp with around 96% iv. not sure which one to evolve. the 605 or 587 will evolve to be stronger than any of my current pokemom, but if I plan to keep powering up the vaporeon long term the 96% will obviously be better.

so I guess it comes down to is the 96% worth using a bit more candy on?

Honestly I wouldn't evolve any of them unless you really want to evolve one just because. I would wait, a few more levels and you'll be getting a shitton of 700-800+cp eevees. Dust is the real limiting factor in this game.


Depends entirely where you live. I get 10k+ Stardust a day and it's never been a limiting factor. Got 3 powerful pokemon at max CP and still over 300K dust. Level 28 now and in the time it takes me to earn a level I've earned triple the dust required to power these guys up to max again.

Eevee candy is more of a problem over here.

@OP: If Eevee candy is easy to come by for you, go with the highest IV one you have and evolve it into Vaporeon with the naming trick. Pray you get Hydro Pump b/c the naming trick only works once. If you don't get Hydro Pump you'll have to evolve some more Eevees with a 1/9 chance of getting the optimal moveset Vaporeon.. GL


Hydro Pump is a bit overrated, as long as you don't get Water Pulse you should be fine as there's good reasons to have both pump and aqua tail. Hydro Pump is only the best theoretical damage, the practical damage is a lot more complex.



Yeah fair, Aqua tail is probably better for gym defense (going by the assumption that Hydro pump is easy to dodge which I do not really agree with), Hydro pump is the clear winner in offense though.

Up to you if you really want to care about 5 DPS in a game that will most likely never be played competitive.
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Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States7542 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-19 15:14:49
August 19 2016 15:11 GMT
#1440
On August 19 2016 16:55 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 19 2016 00:13 Logo wrote:
On August 18 2016 15:42 Laurens wrote:
On August 18 2016 13:59 NotSorry wrote:
On August 18 2016 12:47 randombum wrote:
level 20 and a question about higher cp vs iv%. so I have 40 eevee candy and three different eevees I have to decide from to make a vaporeon. I have a 605 cp 65% iv. a 587 cp 73 to 78 iv. and a 366 cp with around 96% iv. not sure which one to evolve. the 605 or 587 will evolve to be stronger than any of my current pokemom, but if I plan to keep powering up the vaporeon long term the 96% will obviously be better.

so I guess it comes down to is the 96% worth using a bit more candy on?

Honestly I wouldn't evolve any of them unless you really want to evolve one just because. I would wait, a few more levels and you'll be getting a shitton of 700-800+cp eevees. Dust is the real limiting factor in this game.


Depends entirely where you live. I get 10k+ Stardust a day and it's never been a limiting factor. Got 3 powerful pokemon at max CP and still over 300K dust. Level 28 now and in the time it takes me to earn a level I've earned triple the dust required to power these guys up to max again.

Eevee candy is more of a problem over here.

@OP: If Eevee candy is easy to come by for you, go with the highest IV one you have and evolve it into Vaporeon with the naming trick. Pray you get Hydro Pump b/c the naming trick only works once. If you don't get Hydro Pump you'll have to evolve some more Eevees with a 1/9 chance of getting the optimal moveset Vaporeon.. GL


Hydro Pump is a bit overrated, as long as you don't get Water Pulse you should be fine as there's good reasons to have both pump and aqua tail. Hydro Pump is only the best theoretical damage, the practical damage is a lot more complex.



Yeah fair, Aqua tail is probably better for gym defense (going by the assumption that Hydro pump is easy to dodge which I do not really agree with), Hydro pump is the clear winner in offense though.

Up to you if you really want to care about 5 DPS in a game that will most likely never be played competitive.



The other part of it is that 2 bar moves give you more flexibility where as 1 bar moves can have some limitations that lower their effective DPS. You can hold the 1st bar until the enemy uses a special then counter with your own without sitting at maxed out, you can more easily avoid overkilling the opponent, that sort of thing.

On August 19 2016 11:15 ZapRoffo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 18 2016 13:59 NotSorry wrote:
On August 18 2016 12:47 randombum wrote:
level 20 and a question about higher cp vs iv%. so I have 40 eevee candy and three different eevees I have to decide from to make a vaporeon. I have a 605 cp 65% iv. a 587 cp 73 to 78 iv. and a 366 cp with around 96% iv. not sure which one to evolve. the 605 or 587 will evolve to be stronger than any of my current pokemom, but if I plan to keep powering up the vaporeon long term the 96% will obviously be better.

so I guess it comes down to is the 96% worth using a bit more candy on?

Honestly I wouldn't evolve any of them unless you really want to evolve one just because. I would wait, a few more levels and you'll be getting a shitton of 700-800+cp eevees. Dust is the real limiting factor in this game.


I don't think dust will continue to be the limiting factor as people progress--it takes exponentially longer between levels, and you only get two new power-ups per level (while gaining the next level you'll have to be getting a shitton of stardust).


The later levels also cost dramatically more to level up though. It goes both ways though. A high IV pokemon is often 1-2 levels higher in CP than a lower CP one so even if you can't level it up all the way it can be better CP for battling.
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