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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
July 31 2016 17:11 GMT
#1001
Yeah at this point the main thing the game has going for it is "Hey look it's pikachu in the garage haha". But past that, niantic messed up.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
July 31 2016 17:14 GMT
#1002
Yea this is really fucking stupid. Niantic better change things quick.
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42417 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 17:36:48
July 31 2016 17:19 GMT
#1003
Players all around are asking for refunds (and successfully too) due to the recent changes. Hopefully Niantic finally takes their heads out of their asses.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemongo/comments/4vgncl/psa_itunes_refundpokemon_go_purchases/
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
July 31 2016 17:57 GMT
#1004
The most hilarious part is that the patch hardly had any gameplay functionality changed. The 3 footsteps were removed, big deal, 3 footsteps or no footsteps there is no difference.

The real reason why people are ranting is because Niantic got rid of third-party websites/apps that basically allowed cheating, go figure. There is a massive difference between the 3-step tracking system and using apps that show you the actual location.

The tracking will be back soon enough, they just have to re-do the entire thing server-side to ensure sites like Pokevision can't happen anymore.

People are so fickle nowadays
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
July 31 2016 18:03 GMT
#1005
On August 01 2016 02:57 Laurens wrote:
The most hilarious part is that the patch hardly had any gameplay functionality changed. The 3 footsteps were removed, big deal, 3 footsteps or no footsteps there is no difference.

The real reason why people are ranting is because Niantic got rid of third-party websites/apps that basically allowed cheating, go figure. There is a massive difference between the 3-step tracking system and using apps that show you the actual location.

The tracking will be back soon enough, they just have to re-do the entire thing server-side to ensure sites like Pokevision can't happen anymore.

People are so fickle nowadays

Honestly, if they fix footsteps, I'm fine with no pokevision. But currently having no way of knowing where anything is, within a far too large radius to track within the despawn timer is stupid....
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
July 31 2016 18:05 GMT
#1006
On August 01 2016 03:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 02:57 Laurens wrote:
The most hilarious part is that the patch hardly had any gameplay functionality changed. The 3 footsteps were removed, big deal, 3 footsteps or no footsteps there is no difference.

The real reason why people are ranting is because Niantic got rid of third-party websites/apps that basically allowed cheating, go figure. There is a massive difference between the 3-step tracking system and using apps that show you the actual location.

The tracking will be back soon enough, they just have to re-do the entire thing server-side to ensure sites like Pokevision can't happen anymore.

People are so fickle nowadays

Honestly, if they fix footsteps, I'm fine with no pokevision. But currently having no way of knowing where anything is, within a far too large radius to track within the despawn timer is stupid....


Which is exactly why they changed the "Nearby" radius from 100m to 70m. As soon as a pokemon pops up on your nearby list, it's 70 meters away (and probably not in the direction you just came from, unless it just spawned)

Not my definition of "far too large radius" but opinions vary.
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States14003 Posts
July 31 2016 18:11 GMT
#1007
On August 01 2016 03:05 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 03:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 01 2016 02:57 Laurens wrote:
The most hilarious part is that the patch hardly had any gameplay functionality changed. The 3 footsteps were removed, big deal, 3 footsteps or no footsteps there is no difference.

The real reason why people are ranting is because Niantic got rid of third-party websites/apps that basically allowed cheating, go figure. There is a massive difference between the 3-step tracking system and using apps that show you the actual location.

The tracking will be back soon enough, they just have to re-do the entire thing server-side to ensure sites like Pokevision can't happen anymore.

People are so fickle nowadays

Honestly, if they fix footsteps, I'm fine with no pokevision. But currently having no way of knowing where anything is, within a far too large radius to track within the despawn timer is stupid....


Which is exactly why they changed the "Nearby" radius from 100m to 70m. As soon as a pokemon pops up on your nearby list, it's 70 meters away (and probably not in the direction you just came from, unless it just spawned)

Not my definition of "far too large radius" but opinions vary.

That is helpful. But is still a bit large to go in blind...
Engage, Zero target Engage, Engage, Kagari target Engage, Engage.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France13022 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 18:12:54
July 31 2016 18:12 GMT
#1008
On August 01 2016 03:05 Laurens wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 03:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 01 2016 02:57 Laurens wrote:
The most hilarious part is that the patch hardly had any gameplay functionality changed. The 3 footsteps were removed, big deal, 3 footsteps or no footsteps there is no difference.

The real reason why people are ranting is because Niantic got rid of third-party websites/apps that basically allowed cheating, go figure. There is a massive difference between the 3-step tracking system and using apps that show you the actual location.

The tracking will be back soon enough, they just have to re-do the entire thing server-side to ensure sites like Pokevision can't happen anymore.

People are so fickle nowadays

Honestly, if they fix footsteps, I'm fine with no pokevision. But currently having no way of knowing where anything is, within a far too large radius to track within the despawn timer is stupid....


Which is exactly why they changed the "Nearby" radius from 100m to 70m. As soon as a pokemon pops up on your nearby list, it's 70 meters away (and probably not in the direction you just came from, unless it just spawned)

Not my definition of "far too large radius" but opinions vary.

I read that this change just means pokemons that spawned disappear if you go 70m away from them before catching them.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/4vhh4e/the_pokémon_nearby_radius_was_not_lowered_to_70m/
WriterMaru
Spect8rCraft
Profile Joined December 2012
649 Posts
July 31 2016 18:17 GMT
#1009
I feel very inconvenienced by the whole "transfer is another button" thing, since I've become accustomed to chucking 'mons that are bad the instant I catch them. Not having quick throw sucks, since I just got the hang of it, and it does free up the tidbit of time to catch something else before they disappear.

The whole radar vs. third-party sites is a ridiculous tango. If they're against ToS or whatever, fine, taking it down is legit. But saying that it's against the spirit of the game (which was, I believe, to be a cooperative ARPG experience?) is a real "have fun the way I programmed it to have fun!" move. Which I feel easily alienates swaths of the community. Having no radar makes having the pokemon appear on its screen a taunting pipe dream at best (oh look, there's an ivysaur nearby, let's play run around like an idiot for twenty minutes while it despawns at the last second).

The community is finicky because when Go was released, it was very barebones; just 'mon-catching and a different gym system, no trading, no player battles in the more conventional sense, no contests (if you're into those parts of the game). Anything else that it offered really helped give width to that system; deriving bits of it or even inconveniencing parts of it makes it seem all the more shallow.
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
July 31 2016 18:17 GMT
#1010
On August 01 2016 03:12 Poopi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 03:05 Laurens wrote:
On August 01 2016 03:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
On August 01 2016 02:57 Laurens wrote:
The most hilarious part is that the patch hardly had any gameplay functionality changed. The 3 footsteps were removed, big deal, 3 footsteps or no footsteps there is no difference.

The real reason why people are ranting is because Niantic got rid of third-party websites/apps that basically allowed cheating, go figure. There is a massive difference between the 3-step tracking system and using apps that show you the actual location.

The tracking will be back soon enough, they just have to re-do the entire thing server-side to ensure sites like Pokevision can't happen anymore.

People are so fickle nowadays

Honestly, if they fix footsteps, I'm fine with no pokevision. But currently having no way of knowing where anything is, within a far too large radius to track within the despawn timer is stupid....


Which is exactly why they changed the "Nearby" radius from 100m to 70m. As soon as a pokemon pops up on your nearby list, it's 70 meters away (and probably not in the direction you just came from, unless it just spawned)

Not my definition of "far too large radius" but opinions vary.

I read that this change just means pokemons that spawned disappear if you go 70m away from them before catching them.
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/4vhh4e/the_pokémon_nearby_radius_was_not_lowered_to_70m/


Ah right my bad. 200 meters radius to appear on the nearby list then, and 50 meters to show on the map.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 18:59:26
July 31 2016 18:52 GMT
#1011
On August 01 2016 03:03 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 02:57 Laurens wrote:
The most hilarious part is that the patch hardly had any gameplay functionality changed. The 3 footsteps were removed, big deal, 3 footsteps or no footsteps there is no difference.

The real reason why people are ranting is because Niantic got rid of third-party websites/apps that basically allowed cheating, go figure. There is a massive difference between the 3-step tracking system and using apps that show you the actual location.

The tracking will be back soon enough, they just have to re-do the entire thing server-side to ensure sites like Pokevision can't happen anymore.

People are so fickle nowadays

Honestly, if they fix footsteps, I'm fine with no pokevision. But currently having no way of knowing where anything is, within a far too large radius to track within the despawn timer is stupid....

Agreed. Pokevision existed because that bug surfaced. Tracking became basically impossible.

The footstep removal is a signal that there will never be a way to track pokemon in game. Of course, we have zero idea what Niantic is doing because they never tell nobody nothing.

I think I am noticing that higher CP pokemon are jumping and attacking balls more frequently. Not an unwelcome change as adding some challenge to catching is OK. Would be GREAT if didn't have to rely on unofficial patch notes to know what's happened
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 20:50:06
July 31 2016 20:48 GMT
#1012
On August 01 2016 02:57 Laurens wrote:
The most hilarious part is that the patch hardly had any gameplay functionality changed. The 3 footsteps were removed, big deal, 3 footsteps or no footsteps there is no difference.

The real reason why people are ranting is because Niantic got rid of third-party websites/apps that basically allowed cheating, go figure. There is a massive difference between the 3-step tracking system and using apps that show you the actual location.

The tracking will be back soon enough, they just have to re-do the entire thing server-side to ensure sites like Pokevision can't happen anymore.

People are so fickle nowadays


Well, to be honest, the game is just trash. Cheats like Pokevision were the only thing that made it bearable in the first place since the entire system is a dull grind with nothing to engage you. Now that you basically have to wander around blindfolded to find any pokemon, what makes the game any good?

All of the hype around the game was a combination of nostalgia and the new paradigm of wandering around and being able to see pokemon superimposed on the real world. Once the "new shiny" aspect faded, everyone was able to see the game for what it was; a hollow, shallow game with little to it.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 22:26:25
July 31 2016 22:23 GMT
#1013
That patch pretty much confirms everything I was worried about happening.

Deleting pokevision without fixing the bug that makes pokevision essential is the biggest fuck-you I can imagine.

Niantic has one more chance, I think. If they listen to the backlash and rethink their approach, they can recover. It needs a lot more content and some changes to their fundamental design, but the clay is there.

If they stuff it up again they go down in history as the team that murdered the golden goose.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 31 2016 22:28 GMT
#1014
nothing like a patch to bring out a bunch of salty little pissants to bitch and complain. patch had zero impact on my three hours of gameplay today. still fun and met a few cool people today. going to go out tomorrow and its going to have zero impact on how much fun i have then too.

pokevision going down is probably much better for the game, and i used it a lot.
necrosexy
Profile Joined March 2011
451 Posts
July 31 2016 22:31 GMT
#1015
On August 01 2016 07:28 dAPhREAk wrote:
nothing like a patch to bring out a bunch of salty little pissants to bitch and complain. patch had zero impact on my three hours of gameplay today. still fun and met a few cool people today. going to go out tomorrow and its going to have zero impact on how much fun i have then too.

pokevision going down is probably much better for the game, and i used it a lot.

didn't affect me, therefore stop complaining ... great logic! you should work for Niantic PR
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
July 31 2016 22:31 GMT
#1016
On August 01 2016 07:28 dAPhREAk wrote:
nothing like a patch to bring out a bunch of salty little pissants to bitch and complain. patch had zero impact on my three hours of gameplay today. still fun and met a few cool people today. going to go out tomorrow and its going to have zero impact on how much fun i have then too.

pokevision going down is probably much better for the game, and i used it a lot.

while i agree with this i still think they are going in the wrong direction, its ok to give constructive criticism and I don't think it has too much impact on the fundamentals of the game, i think the concern players should have right now is that their voices are not being heard or addressed.
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KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 22:38:27
July 31 2016 22:37 GMT
#1017
On August 01 2016 07:28 dAPhREAk wrote:
nothing like a patch to bring out a bunch of salty little pissants to bitch and complain. patch had zero impact on my three hours of gameplay today. still fun and met a few cool people today. going to go out tomorrow and its going to have zero impact on how much fun i have then too.

pokevision going down is probably much better for the game, and i used it a lot.


As I said, if you enjoy sitting at pokestops all day that's great for you.
Others actually wanted to interact with other players and Niantic is completely ruining this by enabling cheaters to do whatever they want and doing nothing about helping legit players.

But I'm just a salty little pissant, what do I know.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 31 2016 22:39 GMT
#1018
On August 01 2016 07:37 KeksX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2016 07:28 dAPhREAk wrote:
nothing like a patch to bring out a bunch of salty little pissants to bitch and complain. patch had zero impact on my three hours of gameplay today. still fun and met a few cool people today. going to go out tomorrow and its going to have zero impact on how much fun i have then too.

pokevision going down is probably much better for the game, and i used it a lot.


As I said, if you enjoy sitting at pokestops all day that's great for you.
Others actually wanted to interact with other players and Niantic is completely ruining this by enabling cheaters to do whatever they want and doing nothing about helping legit players.

But I'm just a salty little pissant, what do I know.

i dont sit at pokestops; thats the worst way to play this game.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
July 31 2016 22:48 GMT
#1019
With cheaters not being punished, pokevision gone and tracking worthless im ready to throw in the towel at 141 of 142 all 100% legit found over the course of 200+ km and 200+ eggs, getting a gps spoofer to catch a Dragonite so i can retire til if/when they figure how to make the game have more substance.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Rehio
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1718 Posts
July 31 2016 23:33 GMT
#1020
Seems odd. When holding two phones both running PokemonGo, the tracker shows completely different Pokemon for each. I don't trust this whole thing much. =/
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