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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
May 15 2016 16:20 GMT
#461
On May 16 2016 00:14 Yrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2016 23:28 Bleak wrote:
Just killed the big tree guy but I am having huge troubles against the frozen knight in the basement of the tower. I died like 10 times. Got close twice, but then died before getting the last hit. Out of embers, out of fire enchantment on weapons. Lost a ton of souls. Super frustrated and super angry.

Each time I die and need to kill everything on the way back again, it reminds me the AVGN's Silver Surfer review. Some of the mechanics in this game are really archaic and frustrating. Why do I have to kill the same freaking skeleton guy for 11th time just to get to this boss. Why not a checkpoint at the elevator? How would that make the game easier? It would just make the player waste less time repeating the same thing for the millionth time.

I'll give it a try later, but if I still cannot do it I'm just going to uninstall this game. Not every game is for everyone's taste, and I am seriously considering this game just might not be for me.


I backed up a lot because he is really strong and fought him at the elevator (no more room to back up) until he fell in the hole.

Yeah just draw him to the elevator, he'll always fall.
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Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
May 16 2016 01:34 GMT
#462
You could try to summon someone to help you if you need it..
Logic fails because we are lazy.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
May 16 2016 01:38 GMT
#463
I mean, you can always just run past trash, they won't chase you forever. That particular outrider is very vulnerable to being range kited to death from the other room, just shoot something to alert it so it goes to investigate the sound, then shoot a bow / spell in its back when it's returning back from that and quickly hide, rince repeat.

If you have no skill in ranged/spells it takes a long while, but my last character as pure mage, it took 4 greater heavy soul arrows and it died.
Yoav
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1874 Posts
May 16 2016 04:32 GMT
#464
And honestly, more than anything the trick to these games is practice and actively trying to get better. I got frustrated on Pontiff yesterday and so I went back to DS2, started new game. Played for a few hours and cleared most of the early zones with no deaths except bosses, and dying only once or twice to each. Mind you, when I played DS2 the first time, I died a million times to everything. But you get better. Every zone is practice that sharpens you for the next. When an enemy type is really hard for you, buckle down and fight them a lot to learn how. Die a lot trying to parry all the parryable enemies in the game. Try to get muscle memory for common attack types (rolling under leaps, sidestepping charges, circling under cross-slashes). This is one of the few games I've really felt myself improving on as I played, not because I'm naturally any good, but just because I thought it was a great challenge.

Incidentally, that's what the game is about. It's a world where everybody is going hollow because they keep dying and coming back. Every time you say "fuck this shit" and log off, your poor toon sits next to the crestfallen and mutters to himself just like all the NPCs. When you uninstall, he goes hollow and shambles around, a symbol of your inability to persevere. The game is a metaphor for you will to drive on and keep failing to become something better.

#PsychologySouls
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
May 16 2016 10:39 GMT
#465
Everytime you feel frustrated by a boss, just remind yourself of the guy who beat all DS3 bosses without using block, parry or roll. Yea, he hitboxporned his way through all of the bosses in the game.

This guy's videos.
DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
May 16 2016 11:08 GMT
#466
On May 16 2016 13:32 Yoav wrote:
And honestly, more than anything the trick to these games is practice and actively trying to get better. I got frustrated on Pontiff yesterday and so I went back to DS2, started new game. Played for a few hours and cleared most of the early zones with no deaths except bosses, and dying only once or twice to each. Mind you, when I played DS2 the first time, I died a million times to everything. But you get better. Every zone is practice that sharpens you for the next. When an enemy type is really hard for you, buckle down and fight them a lot to learn how. Die a lot trying to parry all the parryable enemies in the game. Try to get muscle memory for common attack types (rolling under leaps, sidestepping charges, circling under cross-slashes). This is one of the few games I've really felt myself improving on as I played, not because I'm naturally any good, but just because I thought it was a great challenge.

Incidentally, that's what the game is about. It's a world where everybody is going hollow because they keep dying and coming back. Every time you say "fuck this shit" and log off, your poor toon sits next to the crestfallen and mutters to himself just like all the NPCs. When you uninstall, he goes hollow and shambles around, a symbol of your inability to persevere. The game is a metaphor for you will to drive on and keep failing to become something better.

#PsychologySouls


Weird, I never had that learning effect in DS2. In DS1, sure. In Bloodborne? Absolutely, I barely even died in the second half of my first playthrough. In DS2? Nah, not really. I still get wrecked by stupid hitboxes and seemingly random poise-gangbangs.
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Narw
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland884 Posts
May 20 2016 18:03 GMT
#467
So after almost 1 month of patches pvp is still dogshit but now game also crashes on me frequently! Amazing.
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
May 20 2016 20:53 GMT
#468
I'm so fucking awful at pvp...
Trying to get to Plat so started farming covenants. Did not have PS Plus so went the offline method. Spent an hour to get a single Vertebra Shackle (all discovery items equipped) on those damn skeletons... Drop rate is really way too low...
Realized I then could try PS Plus for a couple of weeks and use that to grind Plat and be done with it.
Except, I suck at pvp and I've literally lost my last 10 or so duels... My pyromancies are hard as fuck to hit and I get 2 shot.

I wanna cry so hard...
Dizmaul
Profile Joined March 2010
United States831 Posts
May 20 2016 22:45 GMT
#469
On May 21 2016 05:53 Merany wrote:
I'm so fucking awful at pvp...
Trying to get to Plat so started farming covenants. Did not have PS Plus so went the offline method. Spent an hour to get a single Vertebra Shackle (all discovery items equipped) on those damn skeletons... Drop rate is really way too low...
Realized I then could try PS Plus for a couple of weeks and use that to grind Plat and be done with it.
Except, I suck at pvp and I've literally lost my last 10 or so duels... My pyromancies are hard as fuck to hit and I get 2 shot.

I wanna cry so hard...


Pyro sadly just does not do well in PvP Duels. It can however do very well in Invasions with the use of free aim Great chaos fire orb. Glad they just nerfed it to cost more FP....
It is what it is
OsaX Nymloth
Profile Joined March 2013
Poland3244 Posts
May 21 2016 01:27 GMT
#470
On May 21 2016 05:53 Merany wrote:
I'm so fucking awful at pvp...
Trying to get to Plat so started farming covenants. Did not have PS Plus so went the offline method. Spent an hour to get a single Vertebra Shackle (all discovery items equipped) on those damn skeletons... Drop rate is really way too low...
Realized I then could try PS Plus for a couple of weeks and use that to grind Plat and be done with it.
Except, I suck at pvp and I've literally lost my last 10 or so duels... My pyromancies are hard as fuck to hit and I get 2 shot.

I wanna cry so hard...


I feel you man, I do. Happened to me when I finish my 1st blind playthrough and I realized I'm missing one single pyromancy. Yup, that one from mound makers, which I also totally missed. So had to go to NG+ to get into covenant. Spent well over 10h in total switching between farming in catacombs (drop rate is super low, but sometimes I got lucky and got 2 shackles in one run, but mostly nothing for 3-4 runs) and trying invasions. At first in PvP I was getting utterly destroyed, but after some time I got better at manually aiming my spells and trying to use other phantoms as shields/distractions if possible. Very rarely got into proper 1vs1 duel. Still did it tho. Maybe try farming with something to watch on a tv/laptop, try doing something else at the same time so the repetitiveness doesn't get to you too much.
Twitter: @osaxnymloth
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
May 21 2016 10:44 GMT
#471
Went another 0 - 12 this morning... Not a fucking single win...
Was pretty damn close to throw my controller at my TV...
So, sooooo mad :'(
Fatmatt2000
Profile Joined January 2006
United States159 Posts
May 21 2016 10:49 GMT
#472
Just go to rosaria and respec into a quality or black knight glaive or whatever the fotm build is. Casters are pretty subpar in pvp, not that you cant win, but the reason people use dark sword/estoc/whatever and everyone hates them for it is because they're effective.
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Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-21 10:59:58
May 21 2016 10:58 GMT
#473
On May 21 2016 19:44 Merany wrote:
Went another 0 - 12 this morning... Not a fucking single win...
Was pretty damn close to throw my controller at my TV...
So, sooooo mad :'(


What weapon do you use? Spells are almost impossible to hit versus good players.
How much Vigor do you have compared to your other main Stats?
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Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
May 21 2016 11:05 GMT
#474
On May 16 2016 01:20 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2016 00:14 Yrr wrote:
On May 15 2016 23:28 Bleak wrote:
Just killed the big tree guy but I am having huge troubles against the frozen knight in the basement of the tower. I died like 10 times. Got close twice, but then died before getting the last hit. Out of embers, out of fire enchantment on weapons. Lost a ton of souls. Super frustrated and super angry.

Each time I die and need to kill everything on the way back again, it reminds me the AVGN's Silver Surfer review. Some of the mechanics in this game are really archaic and frustrating. Why do I have to kill the same freaking skeleton guy for 11th time just to get to this boss. Why not a checkpoint at the elevator? How would that make the game easier? It would just make the player waste less time repeating the same thing for the millionth time.

I'll give it a try later, but if I still cannot do it I'm just going to uninstall this game. Not every game is for everyone's taste, and I am seriously considering this game just might not be for me.


I backed up a lot because he is really strong and fought him at the elevator (no more room to back up) until he fell in the hole.

Yeah just draw him to the elevator, he'll always fall.


I managed to kill him. I'm at Crystal Sage now.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25657 Posts
May 21 2016 11:27 GMT
#475
Wait they nerfed chaos fire orb? I don't do pvp but thats basically all I am using in my Pve-ing. How dare they My pyro is ruined!
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
May 21 2016 12:01 GMT
#476
Na, you're fine, Great Chaos Fire Orb is still bonkers in pve
I'm pretty much only using that and it's super effective.

For my pvp, I have an Astoria sword +10 with chaos infusion, 40 int, 40 faith and about 20 in all others stats (~lvl110).
I'm definitely considering respec right now, might be my best bet by far...
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
May 21 2016 15:11 GMT
#477
On May 21 2016 19:44 Merany wrote:
Went another 0 - 12 this morning... Not a fucking single win...
Was pretty damn close to throw my controller at my TV...
So, sooooo mad :'(

PvP in this game is not incredibly well dialed in yet. Like others have said, if you're doing it just for covenant farming, you may want to forsake your honor and upgrade one of the go-to good weapons like Dark Sword or Estoc (and respec if necessary, you get 5 per playthrough)

Sorcs and pyros are difficult to use effectively in PvP in a straight up fight against most players. Don't blame yourself for that, but if you expect better results by just sticking to it you might be in for a long and miserable ride
Merany
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
France890 Posts
May 22 2016 19:34 GMT
#478
Did a bit more skeletons farming but not a single one dropped so decided you guys were right and giving up my honor for OP weapons was the way to go...
A couple hours later, respec and Estoc upgrade included, I have about 10 of those. Guess it was worth it :D Still not out of it yet but at least, I'm making some progress!
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
May 22 2016 19:43 GMT
#479
On May 21 2016 19:49 Fatmatt2000 wrote:
Just go to rosaria and respec into a quality or black knight glaive or whatever the fotm build is. Casters are pretty subpar in pvp, not that you cant win, but the reason people use dark sword/estoc/whatever and everyone hates them for it is because they're effective.


or be this guy :D

Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12235 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-22 20:48:54
May 22 2016 20:46 GMT
#480
On May 21 2016 07:45 Dizmaul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2016 05:53 Merany wrote:
I'm so fucking awful at pvp...
Trying to get to Plat so started farming covenants. Did not have PS Plus so went the offline method. Spent an hour to get a single Vertebra Shackle (all discovery items equipped) on those damn skeletons... Drop rate is really way too low...
Realized I then could try PS Plus for a couple of weeks and use that to grind Plat and be done with it.
Except, I suck at pvp and I've literally lost my last 10 or so duels... My pyromancies are hard as fuck to hit and I get 2 shot.

I wanna cry so hard...


Pyro sadly just does not do well in PvP Duels. It can however do very well in Invasions with the use of free aim Great chaos fire orb. Glad they just nerfed it to cost more FP....


A friend of mine found two hilarious but effective uses for Pyro in PvP.

1. Great Chaos Fire Orb, let a player charge you, aim at your feet, they get hitstunned for free combo into death.
2. Iron Flesh + Sacred Flame, you let them hit you and through their attacks you grab them and explode them.

Here's a fun video of it in action:


Also I just finished the game! Best Dark Souls game yet in my opinion. A lot of cool flavor, fun zones, hard bosses, plus the logical upgrade progression and flexibility of DS2.
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