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On April 19 2016 16:17 Soltanol wrote:Thanks for the pyro advice on the last pages, i was almost giving up on mine , it was really rough in the start but now after getting the great chaos fire orb and the rings it finally kicks ass :p Playing a Knight for the first run was really easy mode compared. On another note, now that the hype died down a bit i cant help but being a tiny bit disappointed with some of the lore stuff. Like NPCs only having one line that they repeat, seemed there was more in DS 1/2. A lot of the Item Descriptions being 1:1 copies from earlier games. Also the re-use of some zones / NPCs from older games seemed nice on first glance but paired with not much background or better said without "the hoped for" background information to fill the gaps, it seems like they put in just in for fanservice reasons not the actual story. But maybe i just have to wait for Epicnamebro or VaatVidya Lore Videos to understand it  Don't get me wrong i love the game and spend way more time in it than my gf likes but if it really is the last Dark Souls i would have hoped for some more closure.
Yeah totally the lore, even the NPCs quests, are disappointing. Even in DS2 you had some interesting quests like Lucatiel's or even the blacksmith that were really true to DS' atmosphere.
Where do you guys go for pvp ? I have trouble finding a good place to invade.
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I really like straight swords but there seems to be none with good scaling. I'm not sure which one I should use because Infusion seems to be necessary but isnt possible with my + Show Spoiler +.
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On April 19 2016 19:32 Yrr wrote:I really like straight swords but there seems to be none with good scaling. I'm not sure which one I should use because Infusion seems to be necessary but isnt possible with my + Show Spoiler +.
I've been using the lothric knight sword with the infuse which makes both str and dex scaling the same, working well for me so far 
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Alright, so i just got this game. Would you guys recommend a quality build for my first run? I've only ever played Bloodborne before this and that game had pretty few weapons that you could find, so a quality was good for a first run to get the feeling of finding stuff you could use. But i know the Souls games have many more weapons available.
If i go dex for example, will i be able to find a nice amount of weapons to try out during my playthrough? Or will i constantly be finding weapons i want to use but can't?
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On April 19 2016 20:36 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Alright, so i just got this game. Would you guys recommend a quality build for my first run? I've only ever played Bloodborne before this and that game had pretty few weapons that you could find, so a quality was good for a first run to get the feeling of finding stuff you could use. But i know the Souls games have many more weapons available.
If i go dex for example, will i be able to find a nice amount of weapons to try out during my playthrough? Or will i constantly be finding weapons i want to use but can't?
Weapons are no problem with the new gem system, but if you want the easiest build it's a str build with some pyro or faith maybe, at least it's easier to play that kind of build for me.
There is a good dex weapon (a katana) available early just outside the fire link shrine, dropped by some naked ninja.
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On April 19 2016 20:43 WhiteDog wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2016 20:36 Zinnwaldite wrote:
Alright, so i just got this game. Would you guys recommend a quality build for my first run? I've only ever played Bloodborne before this and that game had pretty few weapons that you could find, so a quality was good for a first run to get the feeling of finding stuff you could use. But i know the Souls games have many more weapons available.
If i go dex for example, will i be able to find a nice amount of weapons to try out during my playthrough? Or will i constantly be finding weapons i want to use but can't? Weapons are no problem with the new gem system, but if you want the easiest build it's a str build with some pyro or faith maybe, at least it's easier to play that kind of build for me. There is a good dex weapon (a katana) available early just outside the fire link shrine, dropped by some naked ninja.
Thanks. I'm not too worried about making things as easy as possible. My main thing is feeling like i'm finding stuff here an there that i can use and have fun with. I'll keep an eye out for the katana, it sounds cool.
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Im Using a Heavy Dark Sword +7 it has A str scalling and 350 Attack (at 40str)
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On April 19 2016 21:12 Faruko wrote:
Im Using a Heavy Dark Sword +7 it has A str scalling and 350 Attack (at 40str)
I watched the moveset on youtube. Why is this even a straight sword?
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Its fast, strong and has the stomp skill
I like it
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Dark sword is very popular as a great STR scale straight sword. You see it very often in PvP. As for a good quality build weapon you can't go wrong with the claymore now that it has been buffed.
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What items are there for boosting sorcery/magic damage? I know of the dusk crown or something and obviously the rings, but anything else? Any weapons or armors with bonuses like that?
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Going back to the topic of magic, I read somewhere that if you want serious damage from sorceries and miracles you'd need to invest at least 50 points in INT/FTH respectively, while pyro scales from both so your 25/25 or 30/30 are good enough. Ofc 40/40 nets you incredible damage but that's real commitment.
Lightning spears do most damage at point blank range, then their damage falls off with range, I dunno how many points in FTH you'd need to do 1500 damage spears (i'd guess since we're comparing Chaos Fireorb damage It'd be fitting to put Sunlight Spear here?). And sorceries - prolly Crystal Soul Spears?
I'd wager Sunlight Spears would need the most stat investment to get the damage up there.
Another thing to consider is - when do magic weapons (spells that give buff your weapon) become better than their resin equivalents?
So the question is - do you hybrid for defensive spells and a little "trick up your sleeve" damage, do you full-on commit for good spell damage, or do go for a STR build, a DEX build or a quality build? How viable can hybrids really be and how much do you need to invest in magic?
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In PvP no one knows so far to be fair, in PvE anything can work, even SL1 runs
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I like that Magic (can only speak for pyro) can go deep and be your main way of dealing damage. I don't like the idea of it just being added onto every single build because it only takes 20 points to be effective.
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On April 20 2016 07:02 Dizmaul wrote:
I like that Magic (can only speak for pyro) can go deep and be your main way of dealing damage. I don't like the idea of it just being added onto every single build because it only takes 20 points to be effective.
pyro was like that in ds1 too
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yeah, Steam is down btw
edit: back up
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Where would people rank this in the series? I feel I'm the only one high on this game after talking to a group of friends.
3>1>Bloodborne>2
I fucking loved the shit out of the first game too.
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I like it a lot, BUT you can really see they are running out of ideas, they recyle A LOT of stuff from older games (Sure its a sequel but at some point it feels somewhat lazy... Like some old references dont even have a reason to be there or are not explained AT ALL), that itself drops it a few points imo, its just a little too much.the Lore its not that good also IMO and the enemy variety... Its also the easiest (BUT thats super debatable because FROM games are remarkably similar and its hard to tell if they are easiwr or you are just good nowadays)
Havent finished it yet but i would say 1>2=3>Bloodborne
Btw, i love the game and the few wrong parts dont detract from the overall awesome gamr and i see myself playing this lots of time and playing a lot pvp, just like every souls game.
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The only part I was really disappointed with was NPCs, returning for no reason and having actually very few lines, and not really any lore to stitch it all together.
Vaati might get in deep and explain some parts but EpicNameBro will be severely disappointed with the story in this game.
I'm still looking forward to DLCs (they were some of the best content in DkS1 and DkS2) and I hope they can manage to bring the same level of quality again.
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i know ds2 is generally despised , but i dont like that they dident atke over some of its good parts. i miss bonfire ascetics , powerstance , and actually meaningful npc invasions
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