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Yrr
Germany804 Posts
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Latham
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But now I am debating respeccing at Rosaria into a quality build. There seem to be so many fun weapons in this game and I'm just locked into massive slammers. Maybe even a faith build for buffs? Sounds like a lot of fun. Any of you have any experience with these types of builds in ds3? (quality or faith) | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Maybe some day it will do damage by throwing lightening too. But right now the buffs are clutch. | ||
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Dizmaul
United States831 Posts
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Latham
9560 Posts
On April 19 2016 03:07 Dizmaul wrote: With the buff to greatswords a Quality claymoore build is even better than it was. Yeah I've read they "adjusted" greatswords and I kinda want to try it out. Maybe not claymore necessarily, but Artorias' GS? Yup. Overall the greatswords this time around were just so average. Longsword and Broadsword and the damn Dark Sword were miles ahead. They did comparable damage to greatsword but each swing was faster and cost less stamina per swing. On the other hand Ultra Greatswords did massive damage and easily staggered opponents. There was very little reason to use a greatsword. They were just so average, you could find better alternatives in any category. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
On April 19 2016 02:44 Plansix wrote: So far my faith build has not bee a huge damage dealer for me, but he buffs, passive healing from the chime art and ability to heal through poison has made parts of the game much easier. Now that I have the basic stats of 20/20 to use any weapon I want to use, I will be focusing more on faith and getting it higher up there. And buffing weapons to scale off of faith as well. Maybe some day it will do damage by throwing lightening too. But right now the buffs are clutch. Faith its pretty bad in dark souls 3 | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
At 20 it seems very passable for what I am doing with it. The buffs are fine, but looking for it to do damage does seem like a waste of time. | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
I'll only claim to know much about pyro compared to the other two, but initially folks had doubts and so did I. For the first hours it was mostly just a small bonus to peck at enemies from range when low on estus or in a strange situation. Once my pyro glove was in the +6 to +9 range and you start getting the more serious pyromancies, they did a TON of work on enemies (especially large annoying enemies in packs) and bosses alike, even though I stopped leveling int and faith at 20/15 respectively. In doing some co-op I noticed other folks using sorcs and miracles and they didn't seem much weaker than the pyromancies I was using at the same level-ish... The flame buff is also pretty solid, a nice 20-30% damage increase or so which isn't insane like the old DkS1 buffs but still helpful, and with the mana cost system you can pretty much maintain them indefinitely. I'd expect similar performance from the sorc/miracle buffs when I try them in the future. Feel free to disagree if you pumped 50 into faith and your lightning spears are doing 200 damage with a good catalyst or something lol. I think magic is somewhat more supplemental rather than a focus in this game, which might make it harsh if you ONLY want to cast spells as a source of damage, but just because there's no more killing late game bosses in 4 hits with huge spells doesn't mean it sucks. | ||
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Dizmaul
United States831 Posts
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CobaltBlu
United States919 Posts
If you are intent on doing all the side quests in your first play through it may be worthwhile looking up a little about how to not glitch them out. + Show Spoiler + Anri and Seigmeyer ended up vanishing from my game because I did the Abyss Walkers and Wolnir before finding Cathedral of the Deep. | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On April 18 2016 03:31 Dizmaul wrote: The Souls pvp community like to pick a SL that has a balance between not gimped but also can still be diverse. Matchmaking is too broad a term when talking about the pvp "meta". If you are just invading and playing randoms it doesn't matter at all. If you want to set up legit pvp duels with clubs/friends ect then you want to be even for clear reasons. Its also not a "build" if you just want to softcap every stat. At SL300 say everyone's builds would be the same. What is the typical soft cap on a stat for this game 20? 40? which would probably mean the same SL for PvP as the past games | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
On April 19 2016 04:54 semantics wrote: What is the typical soft cap on a stat for this game 20? 40? which would probably mean the same SL for PvP as the past games 40 str 40 dex 28 vigor and 49 after 40 end Vit its 1 per level till 99 40 faith 40 int | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
Having a blast trying to do my first clear with my glass sorc, I'm not unhappy about the damage at 40 int, +6 catalyst (starter staff still). Got some fun time with a ring that makes me silent combined with hidden body for super stealth mode and a ring that gives me mana when I deal crit dmg, so I can into a melee cluster, backstab all of them and they just stare around stupidly :d | ||
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cuppatea
United Kingdom1401 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On April 17 2016 22:17 Latham wrote: Holy fuck how are you supposed to kill the 2 crocodogs to get the FaP ring? It's beyond retarded. They come both at the same time. Always. Even when I manage to delay 1 on a pillar pulling only the other for the first 10 seconds the other fucker always manages to join the first before I kill it. I literally died on these 2 motherfuckers more than any other boss in this game. Shield+sword? No. Shield+ultra greatsword? nope. Greatshield no dodging + UGS? Nope. Literally nothing works. Fuck this place so hard. Fuck you Miyazaki you dick for even imagining a place like this. Over 40 tries and counting.... with a +8 zwei, 40 END 27VIG 50STR. edit: 43rd try, got 1 of them down. + Show Spoiler [gear name] + Full silver knight armor, cathedral knight's greatshield, zwei+8 + pale blue resin (magic). The technic is to run to the pillar and use them. One of the dog will stupidly run on the pillar while you kill the other croco dog. I invaded this zone and killed a guy trying to fight against those two crocodogs, never felt that dirty in a game. On April 19 2016 07:33 cuppatea wrote: I've hit that familiar point in a From title whereby I have so much healing that any non-lethal damage has become completely irrelevant. I can just r1 spam my way through enemies and as long as they don't kill me outright, it's completely fine to trade my health for theirs. There's a need to play efficiently early on in these games that always disappears towards the middle and never comes back, at least for me. Yeah but they virtually try to enhance the difficulty later... most latest boss just spamm attack non stop with something like a seconde or two in between attacks. I'm a bit disappointed about the lore in this third dark souls. The second opus is basically useless in regard to the lore, as everything ties the third to the first and nothing to the second. It's like the second is entirely useless ... What about the queens and their role as the main reason for the corruption of the kings in the second ? What about King Vendrick and the Giant ? It all seems entirely forgotten... | ||
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Faruko
Chile34171 Posts
On April 19 2016 07:33 cuppatea wrote: I've hit that familiar point in a From title whereby I have so much healing that any non-lethal damage has become completely irrelevant. I can just r1 spam my way through enemies and as long as they don't kill me outright, it's completely fine to trade my health for theirs. There's a need to play efficiently early on in these games that always disappears towards the middle and never comes back, at least for me. once you learn 1 From Software game you learned them all i love dark souls games, but you have to agree they are lacking in ideas tbh. Sure, dont fix what ain broken but still. Also btw, 13 estus at +8 ? I know you are supposed to be balacing between HP and FP estus, but thats a bit too much for a STR build like mine. | ||
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Latham
9560 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [Bosses I enjoyed] + Nameless King once the fucking black chocobo is dead. His moveset is cool but fair. I enjoyed learning that fight if I got that far without the camera screwing me over from 1st phase flying chocobo douchery. Soul of Cinder was really good also. The different phases (magic, pyro, ninja, normal) and then Gwyn. Aldrich was also a pretty well designed boss in my opinion. Again it took a few deaths to learn his patterns but entirely enjoyable and doable. Dancers patterns were a bit hard to read at first but was fine later on I guess. Just had to learn when I could strike and try not to get up against a wall or she'd spin to win on me. Dragonslayer Armor would've been fine if not for the chocolate rain from the chaos butterflies. Just one word: why? 2nd round with Gundyr was also fun. + Show Spoiler [Bosses that were ass] + Pontiff. Fuck you clown and your 6hit combos and your shady little replica. Did not solo. Summoned both Anri and Gotthard for this clown. Abyss Watchers. 1st phase the adds were so fucking annoying. 2nd phase (cinder) was fine. But also did not solo. Summoned Gotthard. The 2 Lothric incest bromance. Fuck these guys for no particular reason. CrocoDogs. Fuck their very existence and bytes it is comprised of. Old Demon King for the ridiculous amount of hp he has. In NG+ I won't be doing him. + Show Spoiler [Meh bosses] + Vordt being pretty easy to dodge and just camping under him. Yhorm's battle being more cool than difficult Ancient wyvern LAWL Greatwood was pretty gimmicky as well Sage left me with a pretty blank expression and an "well OK then" feeling Wolnir same as Yhorm Deacons were meh for an ultra greatsword user as well. Cleave was real. Oceiros was supposed to be a joke, right? Like paying homage to Seath only purpose in its existance. + Show Spoiler [Ending I chose] + End of Fire  Long live Kaathealso clocked at 56 hours for 1st playthrough. Might have been closer to 50 because I left the game on and did somethings IRL I'm sure you're all aware of it by now but: Really Good Game D: | ||
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Soltanol
Germany55 Posts
On another note, now that the hype died down a bit i cant help but being a tiny bit disappointed with some of the lore stuff. Like NPCs only having one line that they repeat, seemed there was more in DS 1/2. A lot of the Item Descriptions being 1:1 copies from earlier games. Also the re-use of some zones / NPCs from older games seemed nice on first glance but paired with not much background or better said without "the hoped for" background information to fill the gaps, it seems like they put in just in for fanservice reasons not the actual story. But maybe i just have to wait for Epicnamebro or VaatVidya Lore Videos to understand it Don't get me wrong i love the game and spend way more time in it than my gf likes but if it really is the last Dark Souls i would have hoped for some more closure. | ||
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