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malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
November 09 2015 11:09 GMT
#801
noob question. what time does Fallout 4 unlock on steam. I'm in Asia +8 GMT. I don't expect it to unlock in 4hrs 52mins time (that would be 12am 10th Nov).
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
November 09 2015 13:05 GMT
#802
Cohcarnage streaming first legit play through now
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
November 09 2015 13:30 GMT
#803
I read the first review on a German site (gamestar.de) and it's pretty mixed if you read between the lines. It still got quite a good score (87%) but the author mentions the same things as I noticed by watching some streams: it's basically a conversion of Skyrim to the Fallout universe. Gameplay wise almost nothing has changed. The author also (as always with Bethesda) critically mentions the horrible menus and controls on PC. And obviously it's not setting any new standards on story telling either.

I will watch some more streams over the next few days but I think that I will wait till a christmas sale or even next year.

Have fun all of you guys who are playing it today or tomorrow.
mind mind mind mind mind mind
Makro
Profile Joined March 2011
France16890 Posts
November 09 2015 13:55 GMT
#804
On November 09 2015 22:30 JazVM wrote:
I read the first review on a German site (gamestar.de) and it's pretty mixed if you read between the lines. It still got quite a good score (87%) but the author mentions the same things as I noticed by watching some streams: it's basically a conversion of Skyrim to the Fallout universe. Gameplay wise almost nothing has changed. The author also (as always with Bethesda) critically mentions the horrible menus and controls on PC. And obviously it's not setting any new standards on story telling either.

I will watch some more streams over the next few days but I think that I will wait till a christmas sale or even next year.

Have fun all of you guys who are playing it today or tomorrow.

hard to expect something else (morrowind, skyrim, fallout 3 etc ..)
Matthew 5:10 "Blessed are those who are persecuted because of shitposting, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven".
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10853 Posts
November 09 2015 14:07 GMT
#805
On November 09 2015 20:06 solidbebe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 13:25 TheYango wrote:
On November 09 2015 07:35 m4ini wrote:
Don't know if you played KotoR, but that is pretty much the essence of the game.

I've played KotOR. The last open-world game Bioware made was Baldur's Gate 2.

Your path through KotOR is fundamentally linear. Anything you choose not to do is deliberately skipping something or backtracking, there's not actually anything in the game that forces you to go off the beaten path. The only segment where you're not tackling objectives in a fixed order is your choice of what order to find the pieces of the Star Map, and even then, there's actually an "implicit" order in that there's actually only I believe 1-2 permutations that actually makes finishing all sidequests possible (since fixed plot events interfere with cross-planet sidequests, you need to do those planets in the "expected" order to actually complete them)--which makes it seem like there was an implicit linear design with the decision to choose the order only added as an afterthought.

Without involving myself too much in this open world discussion, im curious why you say bg2 is open world. Doesnt it have kind of the same linear progression through a couple of locations?


Every game with a main story and a „finnish“ is obviously not totally open world. What normally is considered as open world:

You can go to many, many places right from the start, even if they have nothing to do with the main story (Baldurs Gate, Elder Scrolls games, Gothic and the old and new Fallouts allow this).

BG2 is open worldish because you get thrown into Atkathla and from there on only get the goal to gather money. Now you do as you please until you pay for your travel to the one big railroad section (Spellhold), after it opens up into a larger area were you can do tons of stuff that also isn’t necessary (Underdark) and then lets you roam totally free again.
You can finnish the game easily whiteout having seen half the game .

Kotor and Dragon Age aren‘t nearly as open. Both would work whiteout you chosing which Planet/Area you will visit next (arguably they would work even better). You are clearly expected to visit just about any place in the game anyway.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
November 09 2015 14:07 GMT
#806
Graphics are brilliant on the PC version, all those countless arguments from the haters over nothing.
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
November 09 2015 14:12 GMT
#807
On November 09 2015 22:55 Makro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 22:30 JazVM wrote:
I read the first review on a German site (gamestar.de) and it's pretty mixed if you read between the lines. It still got quite a good score (87%) but the author mentions the same things as I noticed by watching some streams: it's basically a conversion of Skyrim to the Fallout universe. Gameplay wise almost nothing has changed. The author also (as always with Bethesda) critically mentions the horrible menus and controls on PC. And obviously it's not setting any new standards on story telling either.

I will watch some more streams over the next few days but I think that I will wait till a christmas sale or even next year.

Have fun all of you guys who are playing it today or tomorrow.

hard to expect something else (morrowind, skyrim, fallout 3 etc ..)


I actually enjoyed the Morrowind story a lot. Especially when u read a bit about it before playing through it. It's genuinely interesting. However, I don't know exactly how much nostalgia is involved in that statement.
mind mind mind mind mind mind
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 09 2015 14:15 GMT
#808
Most reviews that are not biased end up in "bigger, better but more of the same unpolished game"

I guess that means, if you like Bethesda games and Fallout 3/NV, 4 will be right up your alley
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 09 2015 14:15 GMT
#809
On November 09 2015 23:07 Reaps wrote:
Graphics are brilliant on the PC version, all those countless arguments from the haters over nothing.

And I am sure it will look nice for those who play it on console too. But that never stops people from making uninformed arguments based on contextless screen shots.
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Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
November 09 2015 14:21 GMT
#810
On November 09 2015 23:15 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 23:07 Reaps wrote:
Graphics are brilliant on the PC version, all those countless arguments from the haters over nothing.

And I am sure it will look nice for those who play it on console too. But that never stops people from making uninformed arguments based on contextless screen shots.


Yea it does look good on consoles also, but pc was their main argument. I'm sure they will find something else to complain about though.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 14:35:19
November 09 2015 14:23 GMT
#811
On November 09 2015 23:15 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2015 23:07 Reaps wrote:
Graphics are brilliant on the PC version, all those countless arguments from the haters over nothing.

And I am sure it will look nice for those who play it on console too. But that never stops people from making uninformed arguments based on contextless screen shots.

Reports say it has FPS drops, especially when zooming with guns

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
ApocAlypsE007
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Israel1007 Posts
November 09 2015 14:57 GMT
#812
On November 09 2015 23:15 Faruko wrote:
Most reviews that are not biased end up in "bigger, better but more of the same unpolished game"

I guess that means, if you like Bethesda games and Fallout 3/NV, 4 will be right up your alley


Well thats pretty much a skip for me. Bethesda games bore me to death, don't like being in a world without a clear goal, don't like that there are many systems but each of them is very shallow. Besides, Bethesda games are broken at launch, need at least 1.5 years for the mods to kick in full gear.
I'm playing the game, the one that will take me to my end, i'm waiting for the rain, TO WASH-- WHO I AM!!!
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-09 16:24:54
November 09 2015 16:22 GMT
#813
my internet is shit, still need 3 hours download and maybe a patch-.-

It will be interesting how well it will run, i play skyrim with heavy graphics mod at 60 fps most of the time, this game should run the same considering my skyrim looks just as good with suboptimal mods and ENBs.



And yeah, ifdf you dont like Bethesda games, then just skip it.
There arent many companies that make these kind of games, so i rather want them to keep making their games and let Ubisoft and EA handle the other crowd
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
November 09 2015 16:40 GMT
#814
Time to start looking for Australian twitch channels...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
November 09 2015 16:42 GMT
#815
On November 10 2015 01:22 LaNague wrote:
my internet is shit, still need 3 hours download and maybe a patch-.-

It will be interesting how well it will run, i play skyrim with heavy graphics mod at 60 fps most of the time, this game should run the same considering my skyrim looks just as good with suboptimal mods and ENBs.



And yeah, ifdf you dont like Bethesda games, then just skip it.
There arent many companies that make these kind of games, so i rather want them to keep making their games and let Ubisoft and EA handle the other crowd

DF says its pretty smooth overall
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
November 09 2015 16:48 GMT
#816
On November 10 2015 01:40 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Time to start looking for Australian twitch channels...


you can access steam via VPN and it will decrypt, just dont buy stuff while using it.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
November 09 2015 16:58 GMT
#817
From the reviews it looks like it's the same systems as Fallout 3 basically updated a la Oblivion to Skyrim. That means I give 0 fucks. Honestly, Skyrim was a game for me that had a great initial offering but horrible aftertaste. I'm not buying another Bethseda game until they change their dry formula.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 09 2015 17:08 GMT
#818
Looks like you can only do the settlement building at predetermined areas? Yea looks like Bethesda for sure, it'll take a year before the mods are there to make the game more than a shallow demo of features, like the settlement building.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12037 Posts
November 09 2015 17:14 GMT
#819
Game looks decent if a bit bright in the intro. A 660ti can run it on medium. Couldn't get my female character to look young in the settings available, lots of face areas, around 20 settings and some scales for each one. Very small options for body changes, just a basic triangle you can move around in (unless I missed stuff).
Laserist
Profile Joined September 2011
Turkey4269 Posts
November 09 2015 17:21 GMT
#820
On November 10 2015 01:58 deth2munkies wrote:
From the reviews it looks like it's the same systems as Fallout 3 basically updated a la Oblivion to Skyrim. That means I give 0 fucks. Honestly, Skyrim was a game for me that had a great initial offering but horrible aftertaste. I'm not buying another Bethseda game until they change their dry formula.


Probably they mostly care about this thing. I am pretty sure for someone didn't play any bethesda title before, play skyrim for the first time when released, it would be a hell of a blast. They make money out of it. It is history to put enjoyable elements which surface more when you play more in current industry.

Skyrim was enjoyable though when you consider Oblivion & F3 experience.

I'll just wait here until the game matures, modes will gear up & prices will fall down.(Hope not rot)
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