something similar happened to me yesterday on dust 2. last round of the game, we are on t side and have a 15-14 lead. We get to plant bomb on A site but we end up getting cleaned up by their top fragger, whom they tried to kick a couple times during the game. Guy starts running around the site but doesnt defuse, massively trolling the rest of his team and handing them a loss.

fun times on dust 2!

Yrr

Germany804 Posts

February 07 2015 15:58 GMT

#62

Last 3 or 4 games with a Bot on the team. It's so useless to play sometimes.

Cheerio

Ukraine3178 Posts

February 07 2015 19:01 GMT

#63

We were winning 7-5 as T, mid-silver level. I was 2nd top scorer but had a bad round and allowed the bomb to be diffused so the team kicked me. Checked the score in the history later and they lost 16-8. Totally made my day.

On January 17 2015 07:04 amazingxkcd wrote:
Also, what pisses me off is shitty streamers giving away esea week passes to their silver viewers like that is going to help them. There's a reason that you shouldn't touch esea until you have some skill!

right, those noobs don't deserve to play at better servers.

stuchiu

Fiddler's Green42661 Posts

February 07 2015 21:01 GMT

#64

whoops wrong thread

Dangermousecatdog

United Kingdom7084 Posts

February 07 2015 23:02 GMT

#65

I wonder how getting kicked affects your ranking. Does it count as if you played the game? Or that you have lost all the rounds you idn't play? What if you get kicked and your team wins later? Does it count as a win? I recall someone saying that they got kicked during one of their placement matches and their team won, so it counted as a win towards one of the 10 placement matches. That was a while ago though.

Stancel

Singapore15360 Posts

February 08 2015 05:59 GMT

#66

some fucktard with 1.9k hours started blatantly walling after he lost fh 3-12

alright valve

Cheerio

Ukraine3178 Posts

February 08 2015 15:26 GMT

#67

On February 08 2015 08:02 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I wonder how getting kicked affects your ranking. Does it count as if you played the game? Or that you have lost all the rounds you idn't play? What if you get kicked and your team wins later? Does it count as a win? I recall someone saying that they got kicked during one of their placement matches and their team won, so it counted as a win towards one of the 10 placement matches. That was a while ago though.

I read in a guide that if you get kicked you keep the ELO changes you got and that's it.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=312582297
The guide though is based on speculations and some of those dont make sense. Like the idea that the one who has highest ELO will lose points if he is not MVP. I also believe the bot also adds at least some of the ELO points, that K/A/D ratio does have some impact on ELO, and there is also nothing said about ELO certainty factor, that interferes with promotion/demotion and can lead to games between players of very different skill groups. But the guide's idea of how getting kicked is handled in terms of MMR makes perfect sense to me.

Dangermousecatdog

United Kingdom7084 Posts

February 08 2015 16:30 GMT

#68

Speculative guide is speculative.. Especially since he wrote that being kicked will show the game as a loss, which is basically false from my own anecdotal evidence.

Cheerio

Ukraine3178 Posts

February 08 2015 23:20 GMT

#69

On February 09 2015 01:30 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Speculative guide is speculative.. Especially since he wrote that being kicked will show the game as a loss, which is basically false from my own anecdotal evidence.

+ Show Spoiler +

maybe it was at some point in time? Anyway, I think we can safely assume that ELO estimations are per round based. That provides a very easy way to cut the kicked player out from further estimations. On the other hand, I dont see any reasons to calculate ELO changes in different ways in two situations: for a team who got a player disced, and a player kicked. After all, making moral judgement of the players is not the goal of ELO ratings. So keeping the kicked/disced player in further estimations would greatly diminish the reliability of ELO changes for all parties involved.

Dangermousecatdog

United Kingdom7084 Posts

February 08 2015 23:33 GMT

#70

Honestly, it's just speculation. For instance there is no real reason to assume that the ELO estimations are per round base. Except that it makes sense and wouldn't be hard to calculate. It could just as easily be match based for instance, or for a disc/kicked player the game is deleted entirely for them. Playing thousands of games doesn't chnage that it is purely speculation based on what he or we thinks would make sense.

The only thing we know for sure is that winning the game/rounds matters more than the kill ratio or mvp or whatever because somebody premade with a noob friend a while back and they played every game together on those accounts and after 50 games I think, they found out they were placed at almost the same ranks. But of course, Valve could have easily changed it in the mean time and everything else is pure speculation other than that winning games/rounds is good.

I wouldn't trust that guide you posted especially since he asserts things like getting the MVP will get you more EO points and stuff like that as if they were facts instead of just pure speculation.

Nafa

129 Posts

February 09 2015 09:36 GMT

#71

So I decided to test out this game due to peer pressure. I'm not much for shooters but the 5 on 5 is actually a lot of fun. Now I paid full price for this product, and now the game tells me that I need to wait a whole 24 hours while they "calibrate" my skill group at competitive. And apparently it is once every 2 wins.

What kind of system is this? I paid a lot for this product, and yet I can only play 2-4 games a day for almost a week. Frustrating to say the least.

Censured

Czech Republic1061 Posts

February 09 2015 13:19 GMT

#72

On February 09 2015 18:36 Nafa wrote:
So I decided to test out this game due to peer pressure. I'm not much for shooters but the 5 on 5 is actually a lot of fun. Now I paid full price for this product, and now the game tells me that I need to wait a whole 24 hours while they "calibrate" my skill group at competitive. And apparently it is once every 2 wins.

What kind of system is this? I paid a lot for this product, and yet I can only play 2-4 games a day for almost a week. Frustrating to say the least.

It is there to prevent smurfing. After you win 10 games, you can play how many games you want.

Clonester

Germany2808 Posts

February 09 2015 13:37 GMT

#73

The system does not work at all. It does not prevent people from smurfing, but still annoys the newest players. Why do they keep it?

Why do people want to kick after round 2? Pistolround lose and ecoround lose. And when they dont get their (stupid will), they start bitching, running only knife into large open areas and do all stuff you can do to annoy your team?

Dangermousecatdog

United Kingdom7084 Posts

February 09 2015 14:46 GMT

#74

Yeah, I agree, it's a dumb system. Does nothing to prevent smurfs since they can just win 2 games and play on another smurf or their real account, and the only ones to suffer are the new players.

Some people just give up after they lose the pistol round. It's sad, but there's not a lot you can do about them.

Cheerio

Ukraine3178 Posts

February 09 2015 15:49 GMT

#75

On February 09 2015 22:37 Clonester wrote:
The system does not work at all. It does not prevent people from smurfing, but still annoys the newest players. Why do they keep it?

Why do people want to kick after round 2? Pistolround lose and ecoround lose. And when they dont get their (stupid will), they start bitching, running only knife into large open areas and do all stuff you can do to annoy your team?

well, it annoys smurfers as well ^^

But yeah, it should go.

nkr

Sweden5451 Posts

February 09 2015 15:51 GMT

#76

global elite is unplayable. Pretty much every game has someone with a spinning aimbot. I've played 2-3 games in january because of this but every time I try it's still the same. Fucking ruining the game so hard.