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Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 16 2015 10:08 GMT
#361
Why would you need an excuse?
LiquipediaWanderer
Striker.superfreunde
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany1120 Posts
December 16 2015 10:26 GMT
#362
So, the aks supposed to work again?
Caught me a little bit off-guard, finding myself playing with m4a1-s as favourite weapon for the first time since the relase of go.

Thank god, it`s over (tears of joy)
'Your ak is pretty... uhm... dank!'
Yrr
Profile Joined June 2012
Germany804 Posts
December 16 2015 10:39 GMT
#363
On December 16 2015 19:08 Ragnarork wrote:
Why would you need an excuse?

People are shit talking you the second you buy a P90 in competitive. Your team if you dont perform and the opponents if you perform.
MMR decay is bad, m'kay? | Personal Hero: TerranHwaiting
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
December 16 2015 10:56 GMT
#364
Let's hope Valve realizes that someone has to test a patch before they send it live.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
December 16 2015 12:12 GMT
#365
If they can't handle a P90 then they aren't good enough.
WriterXiao8~~
Clonester
Profile Joined August 2014
Germany2808 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 12:22:19
December 16 2015 12:19 GMT
#366
Finally I can stop my P90 madness. To bad I will not be able to play the next days.

I never gave a fuck when someone called me "p90-noob" when I was performing with it (and its a super easy to perform with it, as you can suprise your enemys via run&gun). I mean, how noob can I be, when they cant stop me from performing?

I will still use P90 in the future, when I dont feel like AK and M4 let me perform, but much less. In the past days I only played p90 and AWP.

Good to know, they just found out how much they failed with the CS:GO Winter update. Now they brought out their Dota 2 Winterupdate. It looks like they did the same amount of thought and balancing with it, really crazy,
Bomber, Attacker, DD, SOMEBODY, NiKo, Nex, Spidii
waffelz
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany711 Posts
December 16 2015 13:40 GMT
#367
On December 16 2015 21:12 Kipsate wrote:
If they can't handle a P90 then they aren't good enough.


Unless it is one of those lagging guys who moves around th map weirdly and just spray and pray/prefire like hell while you have a really hard time hitting them as they slide forwards/backwards/move in rapid succecions etc.. Tried it out myself, it is really effective at times. Easy to counter though with p90 (or negev. more expensive, but also much more fun) and by not holding close angles.
RIP "The big travis CS degree thread", taken from us too soon | Honourable forum princess, defended by Rebs-approved white knights
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
December 16 2015 15:55 GMT
#368
Eh.. so we won? 'Cept for the timers of course ^^
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 18:58:04
December 16 2015 18:53 GMT
#369
On December 16 2015 19:39 Yrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2015 19:08 Ragnarork wrote:
Why would you need an excuse?

People are shit talking you the second you buy a P90 in competitive. Your team if you dont perform and the opponents if you perform.


Since when is that supposed to be a problem? Just muuuute!

Also, people tend to forget that:
- it's still an SMG
- with a higher price than a famas or galil
- and it's quite terrible at mid-long range

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Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-12-16 21:18:55
December 16 2015 21:16 GMT
#370
They didn't revert the pistol nerf, right? I really hope they will...
€ oh yes, they did. nice!
jonich0n
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1982 Posts
December 16 2015 21:52 GMT
#371
On December 17 2015 00:55 Muffloe wrote:
Eh.. so we won? 'Cept for the timers of course ^^

Funny, I didn't mind the rifle change all that much even though I guess it seemed to be flawed considering what exactly they were trying to do. The idea behind it I appreciate, but these tweaks need sufficient testing from long-time players and pro's specifically that understand what it would mean, the types of tweaks that would make the game a better "competitive". Not sure if that's Valve's priority, they sure as hell haven't seemed to make much of a push to do that in all this time but I think now is as good a time as any.

The r8 addition pre-nerf was always retarded and nothing more needs to be said about that.

But the longer round times. And defuse timer. Ugh. I kind of really hate this. Retake time felt fine, it rewarded smart gamesense and faster rotations from teams who were getting it. I get smokes might be too powerful but it made the whole map control meta on maps like Inferno fascinating. The game has already been feeling more T-sided with this current set of maps and all which is good, so why give T's even more time to work picks and take more map control and information further improving their chances of winning rounds? CT economy is such a tough thing to deal with and makes the game results feel more "random" between top teams so I dunno... just doesn't seem like a useful change at all. Not with this current map pool. Maybe if they added two large maps to the pool or something but that's not the case...
(>'.')>
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
December 17 2015 05:48 GMT
#372
I don't even understand what blizzard is trying to do. What does "spraying is generally the most popular way of firing a rifle." mean? The vast majority of the time an engagement is over within the first few bullets. I only spray when I have multiple opponents, where you kill the first and then try and spray transfer to the second or something like that.
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
December 17 2015 06:52 GMT
#373
On December 17 2015 14:48 Dwayn wrote:
I don't even understand what blizzard is trying to do. What does "spraying is generally the most popular way of firing a rifle." mean? The vast majority of the time an engagement is over within the first few bullets. I only spray when I have multiple opponents, where you kill the first and then try and spray transfer to the second or something like that.


people are comparing it to 1.6, where it was preferrable to tap and burst at longer ranges where spraying was ineffective.

The world is burning and you rather be on this terrible website discussing video games and your shallow feelings
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1465 Posts
December 17 2015 10:04 GMT
#374
On December 17 2015 14:48 Dwayn wrote:
I don't even understand what blizzard is trying to do.

And there i wondered what would happen if Blizzard would look into CS:GO.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 17 2015 10:23 GMT
#375
Heh, Blizzard ruining even CS:GO.
LiquipediaWanderer
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
December 17 2015 10:25 GMT
#376
No all talk between opponents. Oh wait... =\
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Kamari
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden87 Posts
December 17 2015 14:11 GMT
#377
Can still write to them though!
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 17 2015 15:13 GMT
#378
That's not vocal and violent enough. How can you decently instil fear into your enemy's mind?
LiquipediaWanderer
Kamari
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden87 Posts
December 17 2015 15:41 GMT
#379
Tell them that you only have 40hours played?
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
December 17 2015 16:00 GMT
#380
Then they won't fear me, they'll call me a hacker.

(This happened x_x)
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