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Grey Goo - new RTS from original C&C devs - Page 10

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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-22 13:48:05
January 22 2015 13:46 GMT
#181
On January 22 2015 21:58 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 21:48 -Archangel- wrote:
On January 22 2015 21:45 Technique wrote:
Will also be interesting to see how quick and accurate the units actually react in this game, since it's server-client instead of p2p.

Especially if 1 guy is close to the server and the other guy is half way round the world... will he simply lag and the other guy have a smooth game? Etc.

They said this is a good thing as they don't want everyone to suffer because one guy has bad internet.

Yes that is the good part.

But my example is not about bad internet, it's about the distance between the server and the player.

There is a reason blizzard games have regions... and blizzard games are not even full server-client.

They said Korea is its own region while EU and USA are same region.

From what I read, they are using Steam to host games so everything will depend on quality of Valve's service.

How good does Dota 2 , TF2 and CS:GO work?
hariooo
Profile Joined October 2013
Canada2830 Posts
January 22 2015 14:59 GMT
#182
What are you guys talking about?

I've only ever heard macro emphasized over micro for this game.

So either you're all wrong or the marketing for this game has been extremely misleading.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
January 22 2015 15:04 GMT
#183
I've been seeing some streams, the game is quite interesting. There are nice decisions to be made, and you need some micro. Split vs artillery and air, and harass the goos.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17026 Posts
January 22 2015 17:38 GMT
#184
all i've seen is a post from a CM in their official forums stating the game is $50.

they still have not posted a price on Steam yet and its 22 hours before launch.

it'll be hilarious if u need steam to play it, but you can't buy it on steam
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
January 22 2015 17:53 GMT
#185
bikerush is gonna do a 24h greygoo stream, it seems.
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 22 2015 18:04 GMT
#186
On January 23 2015 02:53 TMG26 wrote:
bikerush is gonna do a 24h greygoo stream, it seems.

Bikerush spends more time begging for money than streaming Grey Goo at the moment. Whenever I open his stream he is either promoting buying the game over G2A or his stupidity of giving lessons for a game that is not out yet LOL.

Even as only streamer of GG he has around 100 viewers.

As soon as any SC2 streamer decides to try the game, nobody will watch him.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
January 22 2015 18:04 GMT
#187
I definitely liked the C&C series and SW: Empire at War was pretty good too (though definitely a highly underdeveloped idea).

Sure, I'll keep an eye out for this game.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
MarlieChurphy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States2063 Posts
January 22 2015 19:22 GMT
#188
I hate RTS games like this where you have like 1 base that everything extends from and the units are non micro turrets while they are on move command.

RIP SPOR 11/24/11 NEVAR FORGET
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 22 2015 20:24 GMT
#189
Only Humans have one base. And only some units fire while moving.
Aron Times
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
January 23 2015 03:31 GMT
#190
You shouldn't compare the speed of a Grey Goo unit with the speed of a Starcraft 2 unit because they will never interact with each other. What's slow for SC2 is about average for Grey Goo because the game is intentionally designed to be slower-paced than SC2. The Drover is fast by Grey Goo standards but slow by SC2 standards, but only the former matters because it's a Grey Goo unit and not an SC2 unit.

Also, the developers have stated multiple times that esports won't be their first priority. Esports doesn't have to be everything. Games don't have to be hard to be good. Games that are easy aren't necessarily bad. And please, stop conflating skill floor with skill ceiling. Starcraft 2 and DotA 2 both have nigh-unreachable skill ceilings, but the latter has a much lower skill floor, which allows for a much, much larger casual playerbase. Grey Goo doesn't have as high a skill ceiling as those games, but that isn't necessarilly a bad thing. Not everyone is as competitive as your average TL.net poster. Heck, I'm casual by TL.net standards but I'm the most competitive (in video games) among my real-life friends.

If you want a high skill floor, high skill ceiling game, play SC2. If you like a lower skill floor and a lower (but still unreachable by normal humans) skill ceiling, play DotA 2 or Grey Goo. We "casuals" have the right to play video games, too.
"The drums! The drums! The drums! The neverending drumbeat! Open me, you human fool! Open the light and summon me and receive my majesty!"
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
January 23 2015 06:31 GMT
#191
Interested to see what it turns out like. Anyone streaming it atm?
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Aron Times
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
January 23 2015 06:45 GMT
#192
BikeRush is the best player streaming like now, though he's a bit... undignified.

I will not be streaming myself, but will be posting YouTube videos. I will start with a Let's Play of the campaign.
"The drums! The drums! The drums! The neverending drumbeat! Open me, you human fool! Open the light and summon me and receive my majesty!"
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
January 23 2015 09:43 GMT
#193
So today is the day.

Will be buying it, even if it is just to support petroglyph, cause at the end of the day it's a legit try at a classic rts game and we need more of those.

If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
gTank
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria2590 Posts
January 23 2015 09:54 GMT
#194
Will get that game as well, hope it has a better start than Planetary annihilation.
One crossed wire, one wayward pinch of potassium chlorate, one errant twitch...and kablooie!
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
January 23 2015 10:07 GMT
#195
I am waiting for Steam sale but will try the demo if available.
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4137 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-23 11:14:03
January 23 2015 11:10 GMT
#196
I dont care if it is a slow- or fast-paced game. sc2 is too fast-paced without any big intensity in it (too fast-paced ist the reason here with sc2 design). I prefer intensity with only soft counter units (the opposite of sc2).

edit: speed & efficiency and too fast-paced might look intense and badass at first glance, but utterly boring after one year.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
January 23 2015 11:26 GMT
#197
Watched it for a few minutes, doesn't look like it is for me to be honest. I like more fast paced, it does look like it would be fun, but a more casual type of fun. I understand that is what this game is aiming for but still I hope it can move a little faster than that.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12541 Posts
January 23 2015 11:33 GMT
#198
I will probably get it to have some more rts to play, looks interesting to say the least.
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12541 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-23 11:36:58
January 23 2015 11:36 GMT
#199
ooops wrong thread
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-23 12:00:00
January 23 2015 11:42 GMT
#200
On January 23 2015 20:26 GGzerG wrote:
Watched it for a few minutes, doesn't look like it is for me to be honest. I like more fast paced, it does look like it would be fun, but a more casual type of fun. I understand that is what this game is aiming for but still I hope it can move a little faster than that.

At the moment anyone that streams or you can see in VODs is basically Bronze level sc2 player with few being up to Platinum (including this Bikerush guy).

While the units don't move as fast as in sc2 the game has potential to be multitask and micro intensive in good hands and with proper builds.

The game is like playing with weaker Archon mode in sc2, like you got half a player to do macro for you. The UI enhancements let you macro at half APM of what sc2 needs so you can focus more on micro and multitasking. And even by watching streams of bad players I noticed lot of micro interactions that can be further improved, especially vs Goo.

Also nobody that played Humans did anything close to what Humans are capable: Teleporting units, and turrets. Humans can get their power conduit to important parts of the map and teleport their cannons around to protect their base. It is all APM intensive. I seen everyone fiddle around with human bases and make huge mistakes. Top Human players will be amazing I think, probably even OP.
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