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JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
November 06 2015 08:55 GMT
#1461
I never even thought that Overwatch would not be f2p. I am no shooter fan but I really wanted to give it a try because it looked fun. However, I will never pay for it.
mind mind mind mind mind mind
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
November 06 2015 09:08 GMT
#1462
So funny how people think the 60$ price is already offical.

"R.I.P. Overwatch"
"Keep that shit Blizz!"
"Overwatch killed itself!"
"How can you be so $"(§") Blizz. !/&(/" you!!!!"

It's kinda scary how many people just blindly take some random internet "leak" for the truth.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
November 06 2015 09:30 GMT
#1463
Its kinda funny how much moneyless college Kids think their, non existant, wallet matters and how everything should be free.
deth
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia1757 Posts
November 06 2015 09:50 GMT
#1464
The entitlement complex of the modern gamer never ceases to amaze me.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 10:09:34
November 06 2015 10:07 GMT
#1465
People are just spoilt these days. RTCW:ET was F2P and I don't mean F2P as in todays standards, I mean completely F2P with no cash shop, no unlocks, no skins, nothing, yet I played that game everyday for over 5 years, myself and many others. it never stopped being fun. So I don't mind paying $40 or whatever if the game is good.

There was a competitive scene with ET however it was before the days of twitch / youtube etc so there wasn't this obsession with esports that we have today.

So for the people that are already getting bored of Overwatch after 2 days of playing or thinking that the game will get old quickly, this genre is just not for you.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 06 2015 10:08 GMT
#1466
On November 06 2015 18:30 Velr wrote:
Its kinda funny how much moneyless college Kids think their, non existant, wallet matters and how everything should be free.

Check your Swiss privilege.

But seriously, I think many just want the game to be f2p so that it can be big wiht a huge player base, like dota cs or whatever. Actually I would bet more than half of the people posting in this thread will buy the "Origins Edition" to get instant beta access even if the game is f2p later on.
Off-season = best season
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 06 2015 10:55 GMT
#1467
Ah the good old days setting up ETTV and syncing up a shoutcast with winamp url to witness Mystic own the fuck out of everyone in the game. I miss ET.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21946 Posts
November 06 2015 10:55 GMT
#1468
On November 06 2015 16:40 lethalbabe wrote:
Any date announced for the Public BETA yet?

They are not going to announce a Public Beta the day before Blizzcon mate.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Aylear
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Norway3988 Posts
November 06 2015 11:09 GMT
#1469
On November 06 2015 19:08 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 06 2015 18:30 Velr wrote:
Its kinda funny how much moneyless college Kids think their, non existant, wallet matters and how everything should be free.

Check your Swiss privilege.

But seriously, I think many just want the game to be f2p so that it can be big wiht a huge player base, like dota cs or whatever. Actually I would bet more than half of the people posting in this thread will buy the "Origins Edition" to get instant beta access even if the game is f2p later on.

I absolutely intend to buy the Origins Edition once the game has been confirmed F2P. The reason is exactly as you said: If Overwatch has a steep price tag, the player base will be decimated, and its potential as an esport will be significantly diminished. The game would never live up to its promise and potential. What I want to sign on for in Overwatch is a competitive class based shooter with a vibrant esports scene. A high price tag is predisposed to weaken that.

As for the people in this thread who, when confronted with those of us who yearn for an esports scene, decide to denigrate us by calling us entitled: Where do you think we are?
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10801 Posts
November 06 2015 12:11 GMT
#1470
If the game is truely good, the paywall won't hurt it much.


Well, they would have to give out some Beta where you can Play on 1-2 maps or something but else, i don't see the paywall being a Problem. At least for Europe/NA (and afaik there isn't a worldwide shooter anyway?).
Waterboarding
Profile Joined June 2012
37 Posts
November 06 2015 13:00 GMT
#1471
If u enjoy WOlfenstein:ET etc. and didnt get a Beta key for Overwatch u should check out Dirty Bomb. It from the same studio (Splash Damage) and F2P on steam. Pretty much ET in a different setting
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11926 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 13:43:25
November 06 2015 13:43 GMT
#1472
On November 06 2015 22:00 Waterboarding wrote:
If u enjoy WOlfenstein:ET etc. and didnt get a Beta key for Overwatch u should check out Dirty Bomb. It from the same studio (Splash Damage) and F2P on steam. Pretty much ET in a different setting


What is the payment model like in Dirty Bomb? So hard to tell with f2p if they are p2w like LoL and HotS or f2p like Dota.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 06 2015 13:49 GMT
#1473
Saying you won't buy a game before knowing the actual price or what comes with it (single player, co op missions, etc) is silly. Saying it literally the day of Blizzcon where we're going to learn everything is just dumb.
It's your boy Guzma!
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
November 06 2015 13:50 GMT
#1474
I don't mind Overwatch being B2P as a deterrent to people loading up cheats

I do care about the B2P price that Blizzard ends up choosing

with current Overwatch beta content, Blizzard will make a quick buck with OW @ $60, but the population will wane over time and likely have a small active population by 1 year after release

@ a $15 - $25 price tag, the game becomes accessible to a larger population

if Blizzard ends up releasing P2W cash shop purchases with a B2P game though, then screw them
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
November 06 2015 13:50 GMT
#1475
On November 06 2015 18:50 deth wrote:
The entitlement complex of the modern gamer never ceases to amaze me.

Or the delusion factor. Someone claim the fan base is outraged based on some angry post on reddit where 2000 people posted. Even if the game solid like 10 million copies.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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Waterboarding
Profile Joined June 2012
37 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 14:03:03
November 06 2015 13:51 GMT
#1476
Its ok imho, you have 3 Hero rotation every 2 weeks i think. You have different loadout cards where you get benefits and different weapons, but you can easily farm that with the ingame currency for your favorite heroes. If you want every hero and every loadout cards(which is completely unnecessary) then it might take a while. I love it for now just because it brings back the old ET memories. and with every hero and map and game mechanic u will see it is the same studio working on that.

Is it better than Overwatch? I dont know but as i said, if you didnt get a key its the perfect alternative.

EDIT: Yeah if Overwatch costs around 40€ i dont mind buying it, same with the Dirty Bomb game. Going to the movies costs me around 12-15 € wihtout popcorn etc. compare that to 30€ and 30+ hours of gaming and its easily worth it. And the most important thing i like to support capitalism, IT NEEDS MY EURO DOLLARS!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45006 Posts
November 06 2015 14:19 GMT
#1477
On November 06 2015 22:49 Requizen wrote:
Saying you won't buy a game before knowing the actual price or what comes with it (single player, co op missions, etc) is silly. Saying it literally the day of Blizzcon where we're going to learn everything is just dumb.


Agreed. Let's relax and hear what they officially have to say about the game first
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
November 06 2015 14:29 GMT
#1478
Anyone know if I buy the virtual ticket if they'll flag my account for an invite during the next wave?
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
November 06 2015 14:30 GMT
#1479
The way I see it Blizz dont even have a reason to make Overwatch not f2p. They simply make this game "pay for beta access" with their Origins Edition. Then they have official release like 4 months after the Orgins Edition release. So everyone who is ready to pay for Overwatch will buy Origins anyway and not wait those 4 (or whatever) months until it is f2p.
And everyone who is to cheap to buy it or lacks the money or is intitially not interested in the game will wait until it is f2p. Then they will later on buy skins and stuff and blizz will get money from those people as well. So by doing it this way blizz should be able to maximize revenue.
Off-season = best season
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9566 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-11-06 14:35:03
November 06 2015 14:32 GMT
#1480
I honestly wouldn't mind paying 20-40 EUR for this. I've been itching for a fun/good FPS for a while now, and always seem to go back to CS:GO for now, where I do buy skins off the market. I also played a hell of a lot of Battlefield 3, but felt that BF4 was a carbon money-grabbing copy, so I never bought it. Now I feel like it's too late to buy BF4 to have fun in it. Never was a fan of CoD so I won't even consider black ops 3. Last time I had fun in CoD was Modern Warfare I got with buying a new (old) GFX card.
If I get beta invite and a few skins extra for that 20-40, I'm all down for it.
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