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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44971 Posts
April 17 2016 14:30 GMT
#2981
On April 17 2016 22:46 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2016 22:44 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 17 2016 21:55 Andre wrote:
Here's the video where they clarify their stance on heroes/maps being free etc. + Show Spoiler +


Good on blizzard tbh.


Really nice video, and they've already implemented a lot of those minor features he was talking about.

What's the point of the final cards that you vote on at the end of the game though? I get that it's a little extra recognition/ pride boost for you, but is there any in-game benefit? Is it related to extra XP or loot boxes or other things?

It has entirely no consequence, just a little "I think you did good" praise.


Ah okay, thanks!
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 17 2016 15:15 GMT
#2982
They were thinking to do more with it, but I doubt they find a way to do it without increasing the salt levels to not vote. Always awesome to see someone make Legendary since its so rare.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16882 Posts
April 17 2016 17:25 GMT
#2983
the biggest feedback i'm getting from console guys is there is just not enough content to justify $60 USD.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Talula
Profile Joined March 2015
United States19 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-17 17:32:39
April 17 2016 17:31 GMT
#2984
I don't know how they expect to get $60 out of the consolers, when I'm now, after playing the BETA, questioning the $40 I'll have to spend for me to play it on my PC.
No Justice, No Peace
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21934 Posts
April 17 2016 17:31 GMT
#2985
On April 18 2016 02:25 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
the biggest feedback i'm getting from console guys is there is just not enough content to justify $60 USD.

Don't blame them, and I think Blizzard kinda agrees with them as well but they cant sell it for 40 on consoles for whatever reason.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16882 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-17 17:37:19
April 17 2016 17:34 GMT
#2986
prolly because Sony and MS gets a piece and then the seller of the physical box also gets a piece. so i think when Blizz sells a console game for $60 they get less than $40. I know Steam takes 30% to sell a game. A brick and mortar store must be the same or more.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44971 Posts
April 17 2016 17:55 GMT
#2987
On April 18 2016 02:31 Talula wrote:
I don't know how they expect to get $60 out of the consolers, when I'm now, after playing the BETA, questioning the $40 I'll have to spend for me to play it on my PC.


The same way every gaming franchise squeezes $60+ out of every game they sell, even before they could update/ patch/ add new content?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16882 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-17 18:13:35
April 17 2016 18:02 GMT
#2988
are Battleborn and Overwatch competing with each other?

Battleborn has an open beta and web activity declines.
Gee, i wonder why.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=battleborn, overwatch&date=today 1-m&cmpt=q&tz=Etc/GMT+4

On April 18 2016 02:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 02:31 Talula wrote:
I don't know how they expect to get $60 out of the consolers, when I'm now, after playing the BETA, questioning the $40 I'll have to spend for me to play it on my PC.


The same way every gaming franchise squeezes $60+ out of every game they sell, even before they could update/ patch/ add new content?


most console people are accustomed to both a campaign/single player component along with a multiplayer component. players fall in love with the core of a game first.. the tactics and mechanics you must do to succedd...
then after that they embrace the IP around the game.

ATVI thinks they can just announce "hey we've got a new amazing universe" and everyone will flock to it like they are Led Zeppelin announcing their 10th album/disc/cd.

that strat didn't work for Destiny and it won't work for Overwatch.

ATVI is putting the cart before the horse.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21934 Posts
April 17 2016 18:14 GMT
#2989
On April 18 2016 03:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
are Battleborn and Overwatch competing with each other?

Battleborn has an open beta and web activity declines.
Gee, i wonder why.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=battleborn, overwatch&date=today 1-m&cmpt=q&tz=Etc/GMT+4

Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 02:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 18 2016 02:31 Talula wrote:
I don't know how they expect to get $60 out of the consolers, when I'm now, after playing the BETA, questioning the $40 I'll have to spend for me to play it on my PC.


The same way every gaming franchise squeezes $60+ out of every game they sell, even before they could update/ patch/ add new content?


most console people are accustomed to both a campaign/single player component along with a multiplayer component. players fall in love with the core of a game first.. the tactics and mechanics you must do to succedd...
then after that they embrace the IP around the game.

ATVI thinks they can just announce "hey we've got a new amazing universe" and everyone will flock to it like they are Led Zeppelin announcing their 10th album/disc/cd.

it didn't work for Destiny and it won't work for Overwatch.

ATVI is putting the cart before the horse.

Booo Activistion, boooo.

Oh wait Blizzard is an independent developer. woops

Blizzard games have people flock to them because Blizzard holds itself to a certain standard of quality.
Overwatch will be no different.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16882 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-17 18:33:34
April 17 2016 18:26 GMT
#2990
On April 18 2016 03:14 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 03:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
are Battleborn and Overwatch competing with each other?

Battleborn has an open beta and web activity declines.
Gee, i wonder why.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=battleborn, overwatch&date=today 1-m&cmpt=q&tz=Etc/GMT+4

On April 18 2016 02:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 18 2016 02:31 Talula wrote:
I don't know how they expect to get $60 out of the consolers, when I'm now, after playing the BETA, questioning the $40 I'll have to spend for me to play it on my PC.


The same way every gaming franchise squeezes $60+ out of every game they sell, even before they could update/ patch/ add new content?


most console people are accustomed to both a campaign/single player component along with a multiplayer component. players fall in love with the core of a game first.. the tactics and mechanics you must do to succedd...
then after that they embrace the IP around the game.

ATVI thinks they can just announce "hey we've got a new amazing universe" and everyone will flock to it like they are Led Zeppelin announcing their 10th album/disc/cd.

it didn't work for Destiny and it won't work for Overwatch.

ATVI is putting the cart before the horse.

Booo Activistion, boooo.

Oh wait Blizzard is an independent developer. woops

Blizzard games have people flock to them because Blizzard holds itself to a certain standard of quality.
Overwatch will be no different.


Heroes of the Storm should be overtaking LoL and Dota2 any day now. WoW subscriptions are so high now that #s do not exist that can describe how high the subscriber total is ; as a result, ATVI is no longer announcing WoW subscriber #s.

it'll be interesting to see how Overwatch does compared to their most recent console/pc release Diablo3.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Velzi
Profile Joined June 2012
Finland659 Posts
April 17 2016 18:36 GMT
#2991
On April 18 2016 03:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 03:14 Gorsameth wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
are Battleborn and Overwatch competing with each other?

Battleborn has an open beta and web activity declines.
Gee, i wonder why.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=battleborn, overwatch&date=today 1-m&cmpt=q&tz=Etc/GMT+4

On April 18 2016 02:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 18 2016 02:31 Talula wrote:
I don't know how they expect to get $60 out of the consolers, when I'm now, after playing the BETA, questioning the $40 I'll have to spend for me to play it on my PC.


The same way every gaming franchise squeezes $60+ out of every game they sell, even before they could update/ patch/ add new content?


most console people are accustomed to both a campaign/single player component along with a multiplayer component. players fall in love with the core of a game first.. the tactics and mechanics you must do to succedd...
then after that they embrace the IP around the game.

ATVI thinks they can just announce "hey we've got a new amazing universe" and everyone will flock to it like they are Led Zeppelin announcing their 10th album/disc/cd.

it didn't work for Destiny and it won't work for Overwatch.

ATVI is putting the cart before the horse.

Booo Activistion, boooo.

Oh wait Blizzard is an independent developer. woops

Blizzard games have people flock to them because Blizzard holds itself to a certain standard of quality.
Overwatch will be no different.


Heroes of the Storm should be overtaking LoL and Dota2 any day now. WoW subscriptions are so high now that #s do not exist that can describe how high the subscriber total is ; as a result, ATVI is no longer announcing WoW subscriber #s.

it'll be interesting to see how Overwatch does compared to their most recent console/pc release Diablo3.

you are high af.
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you to their level and then beat you with experience. http://www.dotabuff.com/players/115305822 https://yasp.co/players/115305822
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
April 17 2016 18:43 GMT
#2992
On April 18 2016 03:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 18 2016 03:14 Gorsameth wrote:
On April 18 2016 03:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
are Battleborn and Overwatch competing with each other?

Battleborn has an open beta and web activity declines.
Gee, i wonder why.

http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=battleborn, overwatch&date=today 1-m&cmpt=q&tz=Etc/GMT+4

On April 18 2016 02:55 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On April 18 2016 02:31 Talula wrote:
I don't know how they expect to get $60 out of the consolers, when I'm now, after playing the BETA, questioning the $40 I'll have to spend for me to play it on my PC.


The same way every gaming franchise squeezes $60+ out of every game they sell, even before they could update/ patch/ add new content?


most console people are accustomed to both a campaign/single player component along with a multiplayer component. players fall in love with the core of a game first.. the tactics and mechanics you must do to succedd...
then after that they embrace the IP around the game.

ATVI thinks they can just announce "hey we've got a new amazing universe" and everyone will flock to it like they are Led Zeppelin announcing their 10th album/disc/cd.

it didn't work for Destiny and it won't work for Overwatch.

ATVI is putting the cart before the horse.

Booo Activistion, boooo.

Oh wait Blizzard is an independent developer. woops

Blizzard games have people flock to them because Blizzard holds itself to a certain standard of quality.
Overwatch will be no different.


Heroes of the Storm should be overtaking LoL and Dota2 any day now. WoW subscriptions are so high now that #s do not exist that can describe how high the subscriber total is ; as a result, ATVI is no longer announcing WoW subscriber #s.

it'll be interesting to see how Overwatch does compared to their most recent console/pc release Diablo3.


WoW set so many standards and is probably still the biggest MMO out there even though the genre is dwindling.

I don't think anyone ever expected Heroes to overtake LoL and DotA2.

I don't think Blizz expects OW to beat CSGO player numbers either tbh.

I can see how console players don't see as much value for the dollar but people will buy it when the price comes down, and there is a used game market. People who like class based shooters like TF2 will play this. And there are those people who now own consoles and not PCs that can run the game so there will be a market.
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16882 Posts
April 17 2016 19:25 GMT
#2993
yep, when Blizzard is making one game at a time they're capable of creating an absolute masterpiece.
the quality has slipped slightly now that they are working on 6 games concurrently.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21934 Posts
April 17 2016 19:29 GMT
#2994
On April 18 2016 04:25 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
yep, when Blizzard is making one game at a time they're capable of creating an absolute masterpiece.
the quality has slipped slightly now that they are working on 6 games concurrently.

At the time Hearthstone was released they were working on WoW, SC2, Heroes of the Storm, Diablo 3 and Overwatch.
Oh wait thats 6 aswell.

Woops...
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
April 17 2016 19:41 GMT
#2995
Yay no more low levels spamming Soldier 76s or Bastions going point blank siege mode lol. Also we got maps available again. Cya everyone again in open beta :D
Skol
thePunGun
Profile Blog Joined January 2016
598 Posts
April 17 2016 20:21 GMT
#2996
Yeah, this weekend was fun! So many kills with almost no effort, nom nom!
McCree owns noob Tracers so hard it's almost ridiculous. Stun, right click, good bye! ^^
"You cannot teach a man anything, you can only help him find it within himself."
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6176 Posts
April 17 2016 22:28 GMT
#2997
im sad it did stop saturday, I tough I would have it today too

was able to get 68% winrate after ~40 games.probably because lots of ppl in the weekend doesn't know how to play fps :\ wich i could see how the gameplay change within the "normal" beta

n_n
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16882 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-04-18 01:02:49
April 18 2016 00:45 GMT
#2998
its interesting that a few people are defending HotS (Heroes) and Overwatch by saying that nothing much is expected of them.

it brings to mind this article in forbes.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2015/05/23/is-blizzard-thinking-big-enough-with-overwatch-and-heroes-of-the-storm/#56b8d4a419ba


"it’s weird for Blizzard to settle for a fraction of the market share in a genre as well. Blizzard essentially was the MMO/RTS/ARPG scene with their respective games in those genres"
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
April 18 2016 01:07 GMT
#2999
Uh, a lot is expected of Overwatch, I honestly think it's going to dominate the class based shooter market. The problem is that the more realistic shooters (CSGO, COD) are the big ones right now and it's yet to be seen whether OW is enough to break out the class based shooter genre from obscurity or not.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10660 Posts
April 18 2016 02:03 GMT
#3000
Aww man I was in a super sick roadhog game and I got DC'd. I can never shake that feeling off when youre on fire and suddenly youre disconnected
Skol
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