EPTAlso that 1 to 1 hearthstone ranked copy in Overwatch haha. You even get Bonus stars and can't drop below 20
Widow is utterly OP now, with the new borderless scope ... I wonder if that will be fixed.
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Also that 1 to 1 hearthstone ranked copy in Overwatch haha. You even get Bonus stars and can't drop below 20 Widow is utterly OP now, with the new borderless scope ... I wonder if that will be fixed. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10656 Posts
As far as OP heroes are concerned.. Genji and Mei wins hands down. Both just have way too much utility and survivability. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
But it did get stronger because Lucio and Zen Ults which are direct Sword counters build up slower now. Mei is pretty bad with the new falloff on her Icicle now. You counter fast heros ... but they just stay out of your range. You are just a slow moving Voidzone. And even WoW players can avoid those Wouldn't call any hero overpowered atm, maybe Symmetra before the patch because she put Tracer out of one shot range which makes Tracer OP. Still the same now, but just a little damage is enough to one shot shield Tracer. But what is OP depends on your and your enemies skill level more the anything. | ||
ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
On April 07 2016 21:45 FeyFey wrote: Genji just has the sword now to do damage since they nerfed his poke damage and Tracer just sticks him the moment he does. And Tracer builds Ult way faster. But it did get stronger because Lucio and Zen Ults which are direct Sword counters build up slower now. Mei is pretty bad with the new falloff on her Icicle now. You counter fast heros ... but they just stay out of your range. You are just a slow moving Voidzone. And even WoW players can avoid those Wouldn't call any hero overpowered atm, maybe Symmetra before the patch because she put Tracer out of one shot range which makes Tracer OP. Still the same now, but just a little damage is enough to one shot shield Tracer. But what is OP depends on your and your enemies skill level more the anything. Tracer is freaking strong. Good tracers are the scariest thing in this game. I think she's got an issue where shes terrible when played by lower level players but impossible to deal with when played by extremely high skill players. More frustrating than genji. I honestly think she might get a small nerf in the near future. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10656 Posts
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ZeromuS
Canada13389 Posts
On April 08 2016 03:59 Emnjay808 wrote: Mcree is an extreme hard counter to Tracer. Or usually how I deal with her is to NOT deal with her and just ignore her and stick with your group and try not to 1v1 CQC her, cause you're always gonna lose. Eh good tracers will always force the team to deal with her in some way. She has the 2nd highest dps in the game and best lateral mobility. All it takes is for her to keep you in spawn a little bit longer or to poke and chunk you out as you try to leave or snipe the weak mercy in the back. I'm not saying shes unbeatable but even mccree cant completely deal with tracer once tracers get snowballing. Good tracers can recall out of his stun and negate that cooldown and go back to being annoying. The nice thing is there aren't that many really good tracers out there so you can just pick winston and protect the back line super easy with him. | ||
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thePunGun
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada16711 Posts
On April 05 2016 10:33 lestye wrote: Netcode discussion buffering 1 command instead of 4 ( can effectively create a 48 ms latency) will be a nice improvement and maybe the hardcore FPS crowd will jump on board due to this improvement. removal of the "soft and ridiculously long" cap will also satisfy the hardcore crowd. it is really cool to see how well Blizzard's guys interpreted the signal from some very noisy community feedback. also, optional 60-tick rate skirmish matches will tighten things up as well. Blizzard really nailed it... as they usually do. | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10656 Posts
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thePunGun
598 Posts
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malcram
2752 Posts
On April 09 2016 22:16 thePunGun wrote: Can anyone tell, me why new players have to pick sniper, even when there are already 2 snipers in our team and we're attacking..... so much this. i think it has to do with familiarity to "similar" games they play, say csgo or cod. i believe most people's initial impression of Overwatch is "this is a FPS Shooter" except it isn't your traditional FPS shooter. This is no deathmatch. Widowmaker kinda feels the most familiar to them, so they pick it without knowing better. Also doesn't help that Widowmaker is the sexy female type char. | ||
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HammerKick
France6190 Posts
OH BOY EDIT: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/general/507365-welcome-liquid-overwatch | ||
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kongoline
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
Noting considered OP atm apart from a few 5+ hero compositions, where OP means, no one has found a composition till now that shuts this composition down cold. There are a few heroes that are better at lower level and some are weaker there. But that is to be expected. | ||
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kongoline
6318 Posts
theres even spray under tp it had to be intentional lmao | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
In hs I often wait a little after the ranked reset until the better players have ranked up and I mostly play against noobs when I start my monthly climb. That way I can win like 80% of the games. If people do that in overwatch there might be a lot of pub stomping. Also reaching top positions might become quite grindy. Which would pressure good players to play as groups to rank up fast. This also made me wonder, how does matchmaking work in unranked both in hs and in ow? Does it use a hidden Elo system? If that is the case might unranked actually produce the higher quality games at top level and might that even lead to top players preferring unranked over ranked? That would be funny. | ||
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Voltz_sc21
66 Posts
On April 10 2016 17:56 Redox wrote: Was wondering what people think about the ranked system. It seems to be a straight up copy from Hearthstone with a semi-reset of the ranks every month(?). The advantage is that people get a sense of advancement as they are climbing pretty much constantly. At the same time it might generate more uneven games if ranks are used for matchmaking and not some Elo system. In hs I often wait a little after the ranked reset until the better players have ranked up and I mostly play against noobs when I start my monthly climb. That way I can win like 80% of the games. If people do that in overwatch there might be a lot of pub stomping. Also reaching top positions might become quite grindy. Which would pressure good players to play as groups to rank up fast. This also made me wonder, how does matchmaking work in unranked both in hs and in ow? Does it use a hidden Elo system? If that is the case might unranked actually produce the higher quality games at top level and might that even lead to top players preferring unranked over ranked? That would be funny. Seasons needs to be longer, at least the consensus on reddit is that they should be ~3 months long. I tend to agree. | ||
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DCRed
Finland435 Posts
On April 10 2016 17:56 Redox wrote: Was wondering what people think about the ranked system. It seems to be a straight up copy from Hearthstone with a semi-reset of the ranks every month(?). The advantage is that people get a sense of advancement as they are climbing pretty much constantly. At the same time it might generate more uneven games if ranks are used for matchmaking and not some Elo system. In hs I often wait a little after the ranked reset until the better players have ranked up and I mostly play against noobs when I start my monthly climb. That way I can win like 80% of the games. If people do that in overwatch there might be a lot of pub stomping. Also reaching top positions might become quite grindy. Which would pressure good players to play as groups to rank up fast. This also made me wonder, how does matchmaking work in unranked both in hs and in ow? Does it use a hidden Elo system? If that is the case might unranked actually produce the higher quality games at top level and might that even lead to top players preferring unranked over ranked? That would be funny. Don't know about HS but OW has hidden mmr in unranked. And yeah the copy from HS for ranked doesn't seem to generate much interest in most people, then again it could be that really competitive people move into 3rd party ladder system(s) anyway. | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
They also said they will test around with season duration and how climbing ranked will work. Most people that disliked it didn't know how HS works and the OW Team forgot to mention that the higher you are ranked at the end the high you will start next season. Unless thats really not the case which would be a bit weird. As its there to prevent new players from being stomped to hard. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands21703 Posts
We humans tend to think we are as good as our peak when that is really an outlier. Much better to hide the actual numbers and fudge it a bit. There is a reason most games switched to a system like that after trying out pure numbers (LoL and I believe SC2). | ||
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