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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20274 Posts
Recruitment is a problem, but it's solved by having one or two people actively working on it. 90% of all applications you'll get are complete trash, but turnover tends to be low so you only need 1-2 new people a year anyway. I saw very high turnover in every guild that i joined in WOD, that's mostly guilds halfway into heroic to reaching mythic progress. I'm in a guild that killed Normal Archimonde for the first time this week. Our turnover is really low. We're basically talking about different things. You're still talking about progression guilds, albeit ones that aren't as serious as top guilds. I'm talking about guilds that don't really care about progression, they just like raiding and however far they get is however far they get. The difference in mindset is fairly important. Sure, if you're in a friends and family guild not going for progress at all then it doesn't really matter to anyone. Those guilds can also just sit casually at 8-40 players. | ||
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
I remember the ignorance I treated you with after I coined you on our second or third Oregorger kill. I was an ignorant at the time, playing Demo because it was fun and competitive. You stood in my bank, waiting patiently for your time to shine. Fast forward some months, HFC drops and so did Demo's damage. Back to Destruction, the Darmac trinket was just not good enough. At that point I remembered you. My trusty GSR. No socket, not warforged, just plain ilvl 700. Lets enjoy these last few months together, good friend. Before 6.2.3 hits and you can't be upgraded. Let us show Affliction how good Destro burst is when you proc 3 times in a row under bloodlust. Screw class trinket. Flat int and a mad crit proc. Best trinket I've ever had! | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20274 Posts
As for gorefiend, about 70 wipes in and made it past the second feast. Nowhere close to a kill though. Maybe next raid.. maybe not | ||
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
On October 20 2015 15:45 Cyro wrote: It was sad to realize i would likely be losing my [Beating Heart of the Mountain] if HFC trinkets are upgradable but BRF ones are not. 10ilvls mean a lot.. but it has so good ring scaling, it might come out on top still at i700 with high ilvl rings. As for gorefiend, about 70 wipes in and made it past the second feast. Nowhere close to a kill though. Maybe next raid.. maybe not About 100 wipes in, our melee officer dropped this gem: "at least we are getting to second feast consistently, every 20 pulls". How's your boss% after each feast phase? When do you plan on using lust? How are your raid cds looking like? Keep at it and it will soon be down! Soccy and Iskar are loot pinatas that should take under 80 wipes. | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
cd wise it depends, hunters use stamp at pull if u dont see a third feast so u use pull > f2 and thats how u do with every 5m cd, ring etc is pull and then feast and so are every 2 minute pulls, no clue what 3m cds users do, i am a hunter myself and got none of that shit so what do i know ~ Hunter pov | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20274 Posts
On October 21 2015 01:33 akatama wrote: About 100 wipes in, our melee officer dropped this gem: "at least we are getting to second feast consistently, every 20 pulls". How's your boss% after each feast phase? When do you plan on using lust? How are your raid cds looking like? Keep at it and it will soon be down! Soccy and Iskar are loot pinatas that should take under 80 wipes. We just got through second feast. A bunch of people died in feast 2 but we got 62% on first feast, 40% on second. Looks like 60/30/0 is doable. That's lusting in feast 1 at the moment ~ We only reached the first feast twice in the first ~35 wipes so it's looking a lot better now If you sac in the first few seconds (death at ~7-10s, though you had to jump in pool 5 seconds before if you don't get the debuff), use legendary ring inside, shoot some skeletons and then keep the big add above 75% until the ring explosion goes off, you can get it super low. I've got it to ~17% before it came out, without that it's mostly at ~60% because you only have 1 global to take it below 70% before it goes invulnerable | ||
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
We used the legendary ring explosion on the boss, outside. The tank add is easy to handle, just have people that got in throw some dots or a nuke (there should be plenty of time). The dps inside will probably have cooldowns active since they were used on pull so 1 chimaera or chaos bolt or any other big nuke will take out almost a third of its hp. When it goes outside make sure the people are cleaving from the tank add, not the boss. How are the skeletons and essences handled by your raid? How many locks, hunters, spriests (or any other ranged form of execute) do you have? Do people remember to use slows, stuns, grips on the adds (both inside and outside)? | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20274 Posts
Lusting on feast #2 might be a bit more efficient due to 5min cds coming back up (popped on pull > +2m till feast 1 > +1m feast > +2m till feast 2) and also helps with healer mana. 5-min CD's are better for using at feast #1 and feast #3, rather than on pull then in feast #2 AFAIK. We used the legendary ring explosion on the boss, outside So do we, but the rings from the first 3 inside used on tank add. If you use the ring like this, you'll have 3 DPS inside with ring on a cooldown seperate from every other DPS. It does wastes some considerable damage on the boss, now that we are killing stuff cleaner it's probably not worth it i think. Originally i was excited by the ring explosions taking big add to 15% but it's not so reproducable and we're actually failing to meet enrage now so perhaps not so good The tank add is easy to handle, just have people that got in throw some dots or a nuke (there should be plenty of time) much easier if you kill it fast, though How are the skeletons and essences handled by your raid? How many locks, hunters, spriests (or any other ranged form of execute) do you have? Do people remember to use slows, stuns, grips on the adds (both inside and outside)? we have 1 spriest, 1 lock and 4 hunters. That's mostly fine, almost killed it (enrage) but only getting near third feast with will raid for a fraction of pulls because of a lot of random chaotic deaths. Adds are actually surprisingly fine until shit goes bad ^I can see this sounds overconfident having not killed the boss but a lot of stuff is going fairly well - just not everything :D I think i'l record next attempts ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rpbXdU5.png) first reset on gorefiend over now. 5% with people dead and cooldowns not used on the pull - also we got 13/13H clear with boosting, 5/13M and then 110 pulls on gorefiend in 1 week, getting work done but RIP social life | ||
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
One of the bad things about the fight is how the adds sometimes decide to glitch instead of blowing up. They turn around, take a few steps then go back on the player. Other times they detonate 5 yards away, or they can take 1-2 seconds do that. Might be latency issues though. Our kill, brewmaster PoV + Show Spoiler + Just out of curiosity, how is your raid roster? We are barely holding around 24 people (but we have too many tanks and healers -.-). We even had to cancel 2 farm nights and 2 progression nights the past month due to people having stuff to do IRL. | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20274 Posts
On October 21 2015 08:36 akatama wrote: Hmm the tank add didn't give us any problems, we only had 1 random tank death in 200 pulls overall (brewmaster wasn't broken free fast enough and our DK overestimated himself instead of asking for an external or die by the sword taunt). One of the bad things about the fight is how the adds sometimes decide to glitch instead of blowing up. They turn around, take a few steps then go back on the player. Other times they detonate 5 yards away, or they can take 1-2 seconds do that. Might be latency issues though. Our kill, brewmaster PoV + Show Spoiler + Just out of curiosity, how is your raid roster? We are barely holding around 24 people (but we have too many tanks and healers -.-). We even had to cancel 2 farm nights and 2 progression nights the past month due to people having stuff to do IRL. We have 30 people signing for mythic ATM but some that can't attend and we have only 4-5 mainspec healers. Tried 4healing it when one healer had to leave and it didn't work at all | ||
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farvacola
United States18818 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20274 Posts
On October 21 2015 08:50 farvacola wrote: As a very casual player who's only seen gorefiend on normal, I think it's my favorite fight this expansion. Protect your innocence. @akatama why do you use 5min CD's on pull and then 5min+hero in second feast, rather than getting the same 2x usage and 1x hero but doing them in feast 1 and 3? That way you put one set of 5 min cd's in the feast and you put the hero in the execute phase | ||
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akatama
Romania982 Posts
You could pop lust + second 5min usage during 3rd feast, but for some classes haste loses value in execute range. Second, lust also helps with healing at that point since most major healing cooldowns take 3 mins to recharge. | ||
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{ToT}ColmA
Japan3260 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20274 Posts
Second, lust also helps with healing at that point since most major healing cooldowns take 3 mins to recharge. The gap between feasts pretty much perfectly matches with 3 min cd's AFAIK (we just use the same ones every feast so far) | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20274 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/jaxxmonk/v/21897682 02:09:30 stream from guild leader who has a ton of shit on screen and actually didn't have mic recording enabled (while he was calling most stuff) | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20274 Posts
I just cached the Xhul mythic offset helm piece so i now have 53.43% crit 24/7 without any procs up at i717. Softcap <3 + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/1XCVY5f.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dcU81d4.png) The gear is gonna get much better, as much as 20% maybe notably more before having to face archimonde because of the ilvl upgrade patch and getting stuff from mythic So many gorefiend jokes during heroic clear lol "jump in the water, wipe it, wipe it" when 1 person fails something on assault also we sent 3 dps into visions and got world rank #3 warrior, rank #15 hunter (me), #20 shaman on kilrogg for those particular specs https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/W89CwnmcRdDq6zV3/#view=rankings | ||
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