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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 15:40:49
March 03 2015 15:32 GMT
#8741
On March 04 2015 00:03 Teoita wrote:
Yeah. To be fair, the vast majority of wow forums have just gone full out retard this expansion. They went from hating any kind of daily quests 6 months ago and cheering for their removal, to begging for a new one to be introduced in 6.1 or 6.2


I've always been a big fan of daily quests done RIGHT. WoW has had some of the best dailies in any MMO of all time; from TBC alone, they had the Netherwing dailies and storyline, Shatari Skyguard and the Sunwell isle. You could happily make a majority of your gold from doing dailies every day by the end of the expansion.

On March 04 2015 00:13 Duvon wrote:
Question: Is there any place that's worth it to farm "endlessly" atm?


I farmed Saberons in Nagrand making like 2k an hour from the trash drops but churning through thousands of mobs for BoE drops. Now that BOE prices are far lower it's probably not as good - but then again because they're cheaper, your spending power is probably still similar.

I'm kinda torn between actually playing alliance at lvl 100 and looking for a good guild that suits me on Silvermoon. I still have my level 100 DK and 85 mage on Twisting Nether horde, but i have my hunter on silvermoon and still a level 90 char boost, plus could always level a new char
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
March 03 2015 15:41 GMT
#8742
On March 04 2015 00:03 Teoita wrote:
Yeah. To be fair, the vast majority of wow forums have just gone full out retard this expansion. They went from hating any kind of daily quests 6 months ago and cheering for their removal, to begging for a new one to be introduced in 6.1 or 6.2


What people really want is daily quests that don't feel mandatory (i.e. BIS gear at the end of a daily rep grind, dailies being the only way to generate meaningful amounts of money if you don't have enough already to play the AH, etc.)

I think they did a pretty good job of doing that this expac.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 15:44:59
March 03 2015 15:43 GMT
#8743
Yeah at expansion release it's always about selling shit as long as it's overpriced.

I sold the first few temporal crystals i got at like 5k each or something absurd like that; a 640 crafted was going for ~40k+ etc. I ended up making about 150k across my account without really even trying.

I think they did a pretty good job of doing that this expac.


Yet people are bitching and moaning about dailies now. They really, really need to reward apexis from heroics, but other than that i agree, i think dailies atm (especially with 6.1) are pretty ok.

Also, dailies were never a good source of income.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22610 Posts
March 03 2015 15:47 GMT
#8744
Since actual rewards from reputation are pretty minimal this expansion I would have loved to have some daily rep quests. Sadly the pendum seems to have swung the extreme way from MoP without Blizzard realizing why the MoP model was not liked, namely indeed the mandatory feel of them because of the items/recipes locked behind them.

Instead we now get "kill 20.000 dudes" as the only way to actually get rep.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 15:54:01
March 03 2015 15:53 GMT
#8745
On March 04 2015 00:43 Teoita wrote:
Yeah at expansion release it's always about selling shit as long as it's overpriced.

I sold the first few temporal crystals i got at like 5k each or something absurd like that; a 640 crafted was going for ~40k+ etc. I ended up making about 150k across my account without really even trying.

Show nested quote +
I think they did a pretty good job of doing that this expac.


Yet people are bitching and moaning about dailies now. They really, really need to reward apexis from heroics, but other than that i agree, i think dailies atm (especially with 6.1) are pretty ok.

Also, dailies were never a good source of income.


100g a day in BC wasn't bad just for running Ogri'la. Isle of Quel whateverthefuck was even more profitable.

What the hell use does anyone have for Apexis crystals anyway? I get enough from follower missions and work orders to get 1 seal a week and that's all I really need them for anyway. The gear is just worse than raid gear and gear you can get from the new boss dailies and invasions.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
March 03 2015 15:53 GMT
#8746
On March 04 2015 00:13 Duvon wrote:
Question: Is there any place that's worth it to farm "endlessly" atm?

Yeah this has been "out of the game" since LK days though. I loved the days of camping zones farming motes of air/fire etc or crystalized whatever the shit was. That was good farming sessions making money but that has been out of the game a while.

In terms of now i would say you go to places like Nagrand and trap elite beasts or things to get work orders for level 3 barn to be able to get the fur/cloth/feasts and savage blood out of it that way. That is the only "farm" stuff now i think.
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Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 15:59:53
March 03 2015 15:58 GMT
#8747
On March 04 2015 00:53 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 00:43 Teoita wrote:
Yeah at expansion release it's always about selling shit as long as it's overpriced.

I sold the first few temporal crystals i got at like 5k each or something absurd like that; a 640 crafted was going for ~40k+ etc. I ended up making about 150k across my account without really even trying.

I think they did a pretty good job of doing that this expac.


Yet people are bitching and moaning about dailies now. They really, really need to reward apexis from heroics, but other than that i agree, i think dailies atm (especially with 6.1) are pretty ok.

Also, dailies were never a good source of income.


100g a day in BC wasn't bad just for running Ogri'la. Isle of Quel whateverthefuck was even more profitable.

What the hell use does anyone have for Apexis crystals anyway? I get enough from follower missions and work orders to get 1 seal a week and that's all I really need them for anyway. The gear is just worse than raid gear and gear you can get from the new boss dailies and invasions.


Sure but if you aren't a raider i imagine getting 670 stuff could be pretty nice, and there would probably be less pointless moaning. That and gearing up alts outside of raids.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 16:02:58
March 03 2015 15:59 GMT
#8748
On March 03 2015 22:24 Pandemona wrote:
Yeah we had that on a previous page digmouse, it seriously is stupid money it could potentially be a "bug" in the good loot. But just doing Firelands HC every week is a cool 500g+

500? Selling unneeded gear+boss loot gold from 25 heroic nets you 2000+ gold for Firelands alone. Last week I only did Blackwing Descent 25H minus Nef, Firelands 25H and Bastion of Twilight 10H, they earnt me 4000g in like an hour.

Seriously if you don't want to do dailies, have a hard time making and selling profession items, old raid will have you covered, you don't even need good gear, heroic dungeon and LFR level gear is enough to plow through almost everything.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 03 2015 16:03 GMT
#8749
Dailies were never as lucrative as playing the AH, but past the initial EVERYTHING IS SUPER EXPENSIVE stage the AH requires skill, knowledge, tools, time, and even then success depends a lot on your competition. It's economic PvP and only a minority of the playerbase can make it work for them.

Dailies might be the WoW equivalent of retail work, but they don't require special knowledge to complete. They're the income source for the masses, so it's no surprise when that source is gone and the replacement isn't quite so obvious that people clamor for dailies again.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 16:06:09
March 03 2015 16:05 GMT
#8750
Eh during mop i just kind of half arsed my daily tailoring/enchanting stuff and got good enough money, way more (and for way less time) than i would have playing the ah. Seems pretty intuitive to me. I'm pretty much doing the same now, just keeping a few garrisons going is more than enough to get me enough money to spend in dumb shit (i totally didn't just spend 20k for the green fire quest tome >.>)
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
March 03 2015 16:10 GMT
#8751
On March 04 2015 00:58 Teoita wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 00:53 deth2munkies wrote:
On March 04 2015 00:43 Teoita wrote:
Yeah at expansion release it's always about selling shit as long as it's overpriced.

I sold the first few temporal crystals i got at like 5k each or something absurd like that; a 640 crafted was going for ~40k+ etc. I ended up making about 150k across my account without really even trying.

I think they did a pretty good job of doing that this expac.


Yet people are bitching and moaning about dailies now. They really, really need to reward apexis from heroics, but other than that i agree, i think dailies atm (especially with 6.1) are pretty ok.

Also, dailies were never a good source of income.


100g a day in BC wasn't bad just for running Ogri'la. Isle of Quel whateverthefuck was even more profitable.

What the hell use does anyone have for Apexis crystals anyway? I get enough from follower missions and work orders to get 1 seal a week and that's all I really need them for anyway. The gear is just worse than raid gear and gear you can get from the new boss dailies and invasions.


Sure but if you aren't a raider i imagine getting 670 stuff could be pretty nice, and there would probably be less pointless moaning. That and gearing up alts outside of raids.


I could see 670 gear being good for alts if it didn't take 3-4 weeks minimum to farm. You can gear up to Heroic Highmaul/Normal BRF in that time incredibly easily by putting in the same amount of time it takes to run dailies 7 days a week.
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12248 Posts
March 03 2015 16:12 GMT
#8752
Yeah i was also assuming it would actually be reasonably obtainable. Right now those items might as well not be ingame, it costs like 50k for a full 670 which is just idiotic
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 03 2015 16:19 GMT
#8753
I stopped bothering with Apexis a few weeks back since I'd grabbed the cloak and assumed I'd have gotten some pants to drop by now.

Then Blizzard added the next level of Apexis stuff and I was like "Oh, I could get some decent pants now except I stopped running the dailies". Then I realized how much I'd have to spend on the pants and thought, "Nope".

I'm stocking up to upgrade my cloak to 670, but I'm not spending the next month doing dailies when I'll get pants at some point from Highmaul or BRF.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
March 03 2015 17:28 GMT
#8754
On March 04 2015 00:13 Duvon wrote:
Question: Is there any place that's worth it to farm "endlessly" atm?

mythic Thogar trash is very very much worth it
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20344 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-03 17:34:50
March 03 2015 17:33 GMT
#8755
Yet people are bitching and moaning about dailies now. They really, really need to reward apexis from heroics, but other than that i agree, i think dailies atm (especially with 6.1) are pretty ok.


..What dailies? :D

Back in TBC you could make like 150-200g in half an hour on quel'danas IIRC (maybe that's way off, it was so many years ago) - only gold was worth like 5-10x more then. Making 50k today feels more like making 5k back then, earlier in WOD the good BoE's were going for 100-250k.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Dekalinder
Profile Joined December 2012
Italy169 Posts
March 03 2015 17:38 GMT
#8756
Me thinks they are removing "easy" ways to get gold because of their plans to sell subs for gold
Duvon
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden2360 Posts
March 03 2015 17:43 GMT
#8757
I use apexis for two of my bonus rolls per week, so thats 3k used per week, so it's something at least.
It seems a lot of actual daily quests still remain, it's just that they aren't quests anymore, but things to do...

On March 04 2015 02:28 Drazerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2015 00:13 Duvon wrote:
Question: Is there any place that's worth it to farm "endlessly" atm?

mythic Thogar trash is very very much worth it

If only there were enough people on my server lol.
Nothing is impossible, only some things for some people.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
March 03 2015 17:52 GMT
#8758
Daily quests averaged a little over 10g back then, so doing a full 25 was ~250g a day. There were only 19 on Quel'danas so you needed to go elsewhere for the remaining 6 dailies, although 2 of those were usually used for dungeon dailies.

Inflation has certainly been a thing since then. 5000g for Epic Flying was a huge deal in BC, with people spending months doing dailies to pay for it. Today Blizzard casually expects players to put together 5000g at level 100 for the level 3 garrison upgrade. That pretty much says it all right there.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Nisyax
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Netherlands756 Posts
March 03 2015 18:35 GMT
#8759
Leveling my monk from 1-100 last weeks got somewhere between 10-15k gold, not sure how much exactly.
digmouse
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
China6331 Posts
March 03 2015 18:37 GMT
#8760
I still haven't used my free level 90 boost. Hates leveling. Don't have the time to play a 2nd char.
TranslatorIf you want to ask anything about Chinese esports, send me a PM or follow me @nerddigmouse.
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