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For playing 2h frost just get a weapon swing timer, i use the one from Quartz i think - make it huge, and put it in the middle of your screen. Every swing has a 45% chance to proc Killing Machine so NEVER use a frost strike when you're at the end of the swing timer, that way you will never accidentally consume a proc, ever. Be aware that it changes a lot with bloodlust, troll racial etc whatever you're using. Get a Kyanos, use it on pull and blow like seven obliterates with Empower Rune Weapon before the 15 seconds of Kyanos, 20 seconds of pillar of frost and 25 seconds of the +1000 strength pre-pot is up - i'm critting for 82k's by stacking those and i've got a couple of lucky oblits that did over 80k and then multistrike twice for ~130k damage in one global which is pretty awesome (and funny) when you blow up adds with them :D

Hold your resources, at least runes, if you have one frost and unholy rune for example and you cast an obliterate as soon as they come up, then you get a killing machine proc, you might not be able to spend it for 1 or 2 weapon swings which would heavily compromise your damage output (losing 0.45 of 0.9x of a killing machine proc, on average, but potentially losing two whole procs) - as long as you're not overflowing resources (never hit 100 runic power unless it's to save a killing machine proc for an obliterate; never hit fully charged on any set of runes so that they stop charging further) you're probably doing near max DMG. Save that ability that removes both of your diseases from your target for when you need it to spend a killing machine proc before your next weapon swing if you're not sure how to use it perfectly, that helps a lot for maximizing procs too

2h frost, geared correctly, is the best spec against 1 target dps-wise and also my favorite, I don't think Unholy is much better than 2h frost unless you have a chance to consistently hit 3+ targets* where they can change ability priority significantly and get a big DPS gain from it, but i can't really get a clear picture because i'm not very good at unholy yet, especially at abusing cleaves or windows of DPS around the pull and when cooldowns are blown. I use Unholy for Bladefist and Tectus, but for the other fights i don't seem to really make things die faster than they otherwise would as a result of my spec, maybe DPS is a bit higher but i feel less in control of burst damage etc. For Ko'ragh i just dual spec and use unholy if we need magic damage, frost for physical (but that matters more when you only have a dozen core players in your guild)

*Against two targets, it's still more DPS to spend your blood+frost runes on that strike that does physical damage and extends diseases.. against three, you switch blood/death to blood boil and frost to icy touch in order to get deaths from them, and against 4, 5 targets, the huge DPS increases from blood boiling start to really show up

Again take with a grain of salt, lots of l2p issues there :D I'm kinda stating some beliefs as fact, that's just my understanding that may be completely wrong. I've played unholy for two weeks since.. pretty much ever, while i played Frost for years, but almost all of that before the changes to rune mechanics in Cataclysm(?) and the newer talents

I think you will not hold back your guild really playing 2h frost, as it's one of the best singletarget specs in the game -especially- if you gear for it (i'm mastery stacking and using 2h frost, don't do that unless you're primarily unholy lol) - and it doesn't do bad AOE damage, it's just that unholy is actually really damn good at AOE without being that much worse at anything. If you're trying to progress hard - as in, your guild is raiding 10-20+ hours a week, everyone is gearing hard including buying BoE's, you're removing people from some fights to get kills in etc - then mainspec unholy. Otherwise, don't worry about it, 2h frost is good


SAVE YOUR SEALS, you can hold 10 at a time but only obtain 3 per week and use 1 per boss kill. Your main targets are a second trinket (brackenspore) and a 655+ weapon (ko'ragh, mar'gok) - other stuff, you can probably find ways to use them

i say second trinket because Kyanos is so good for frost and you should really get one no matter what