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Lock is kinda weak right now. Aff seems to do really reasonable single target and destro does more burst/AoE, but Demo got nerfed to hell and none of what I can do seems to compare to what a Hunter or a Warrior can put out.
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Now that everyone and their dog is done with the intro quests I would recomend everyone to get all their alts through it, up until getting your first follower. Your alts will start getting the passive GRs from the box, so if you decide to play them some time in the future they'll have a nice stack ready to go.
On topic of GRs how do you get them after finishing quest lines in all zones and getting all treasuers and rares? Only garrison box, lumer mill and trading post?
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On November 20 2014 15:59 ViperPL wrote:
Now that everyone and their dog is done with the intro quests I would recomend everyone to get all their alts through it, up until getting your first follower. Your alts will start getting the passive GRs from the box, so if you decide to play them some time in the future they'll have a nice stack ready to go.
On topic of GRs how do you get them after finishing quest lines in all zones and getting all treasuers and rares? Only garrison box, lumer mill and trading post?
And missions, get follower with scavenger trait and it brings you 200% more GR from missions, do missions with 100 gr reward with him, profit.
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On November 20 2014 14:56 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 11:58 F1rstAssau1t wrote:On November 20 2014 11:20 jubil wrote:On November 20 2014 10:35 heartlxp wrote:On November 20 2014 07:40 Broodwurst wrote:On November 20 2014 07:35 Serejai wrote:
So... they only sold 3.3m copies, but have over 10 million subs. So two-thirds of the playerbase is still farming Siege of Orgrimmar, apparently.
Also interesting is that subs increased by 2.6 million, which means only 700,000 players that were subscribed since September actually bought the expansion.
Those numbers still seem greatly inflated, though, and if you look at the fine print it says they include key distributors; so if a place like G2A bought a million keys from Blizzard but has only sold 100 of them, it would still be reported as a million subs. A key doesn't count as a sub, unless there's gametime attached to it which is only the case for the base game. Also they mention internet cafes where one bought key is played by x amount of people - which has alsways been like that. hmm would definitely like an explanation for the difference between 3.3m and 10m...does that really mean 6.7m people are actively subscribed without WoD? 3.3m and ~3.5m would be much more believable. Well, example of one - I reactivated my sub last month to try and level up enough to get into SoO at least once before the expo hit but have held off on purchasing WoD as I can't really afford to be distracted from work atm  Will probably just get it next week... Normally I would have guessed that there are plenty of casuals who are below max level and are just leveling before getting the expo, but they plugged the insta boost to 90 so hard, in every ad, it's hard to imagine anyone hesitating on that account. In any case, it's nice to see overall numbers so high. This expansion must have really struck a chord somehow. " Blizzard Entertainment today announced that as of the first 24 hours of the expansion’s availability, more than 3.3 million copies had sold-through† and the game’s global subscriber base had passed 10 million, with growth across all major regions." What i get from this is that 3.3 million copies were sold after the launch of WoD (November 13), so they are not countrin "pre purchase" of the expansion in this numbers. So that could mean that probably the other 7 million or less got WoD already before that. Exactly. It's still missing Korea, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau and apparently the last 5 days. Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 12:36 Alventenie wrote:
It is rather lulzy. Had a prot warrior who topped DPS charts today in a heroic Auchindoun. Either your group was rather weak or the prot warrior was gladiator. As said above, its one of the most dealing dps spec right now in the game. Think it tops Warrior dps easily as well.
There's no way the warrior tanked a heroic in glad stance though. For starters he'd have 25% less stamina and 25% more damage taken. Not to mention the fact that glad stance has no threat generation bonusses.
Maybe it will be possible later in the expansion with higher gear levels but right now? No way.
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United Kingdom20326 Posts
Called it, but holy shit
6.8m to 10m, i guess a lot of people were of the same opinions of me with the second half of cata and MOP
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On November 20 2014 15:59 ViperPL wrote:
Now that everyone and their dog is done with the intro quests I would recomend everyone to get all their alts through it, up until getting your first follower. Your alts will start getting the passive GRs from the box, so if you decide to play them some time in the future they'll have a nice stack ready to go.
On topic of GRs how do you get them after finishing quest lines in all zones and getting all treasuers and rares? Only garrison box, lumer mill and trading post?
Those things you said + missions + rares because they respawn daily etc.
You don't need "major" amounts of resources anyway after the 2k you need to get level 3 garrison. After that you could quite easily sit at around 300-500 resources and be more than comfortable.
I have level 3 garrison on both my main and alt now and just farming a few more resources for getting my barn up and eventually lumber mill. Of course as soon as i have done the 150 work orders? to get level 3 profession buildings will dump everything into them xD
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Wait, you 'have to' kill rares once a day?
I was hoping they'd be unique kills...
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Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
Don't have too, but rares are unique kill and some are daily rares and some are just regular rares like from MoP timer
My Rare Finder - Addon
This addon here puts them all over your map and tells you which ones are daily and which ones are unique kills. You can set it so the unique rares dont show up after that character has killed them (on the mini map)
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On November 20 2014 17:39 Mikau wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 14:56 Grettin wrote:On November 20 2014 11:58 F1rstAssau1t wrote:On November 20 2014 11:20 jubil wrote:On November 20 2014 10:35 heartlxp wrote:On November 20 2014 07:40 Broodwurst wrote:On November 20 2014 07:35 Serejai wrote:
So... they only sold 3.3m copies, but have over 10 million subs. So two-thirds of the playerbase is still farming Siege of Orgrimmar, apparently.
Also interesting is that subs increased by 2.6 million, which means only 700,000 players that were subscribed since September actually bought the expansion.
Those numbers still seem greatly inflated, though, and if you look at the fine print it says they include key distributors; so if a place like G2A bought a million keys from Blizzard but has only sold 100 of them, it would still be reported as a million subs. A key doesn't count as a sub, unless there's gametime attached to it which is only the case for the base game. Also they mention internet cafes where one bought key is played by x amount of people - which has alsways been like that. hmm would definitely like an explanation for the difference between 3.3m and 10m...does that really mean 6.7m people are actively subscribed without WoD? 3.3m and ~3.5m would be much more believable. Well, example of one - I reactivated my sub last month to try and level up enough to get into SoO at least once before the expo hit but have held off on purchasing WoD as I can't really afford to be distracted from work atm Will probably just get it next week... Normally I would have guessed that there are plenty of casuals who are below max level and are just leveling before getting the expo, but they plugged the insta boost to 90 so hard, in every ad, it's hard to imagine anyone hesitating on that account. In any case, it's nice to see overall numbers so high. This expansion must have really struck a chord somehow. " Blizzard Entertainment today announced that as of the first 24 hours of the expansion’s availability, more than 3.3 million copies had sold-through† and the game’s global subscriber base had passed 10 million, with growth across all major regions." What i get from this is that 3.3 million copies were sold after the launch of WoD (November 13), so they are not countrin "pre purchase" of the expansion in this numbers. So that could mean that probably the other 7 million or less got WoD already before that. Exactly. It's still missing Korea, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau and apparently the last 5 days. On November 20 2014 12:36 Alventenie wrote:
It is rather lulzy. Had a prot warrior who topped DPS charts today in a heroic Auchindoun. Either your group was rather weak or the prot warrior was gladiator. As said above, its one of the most dealing dps spec right now in the game. Think it tops Warrior dps easily as well. There's no way the warrior tanked a heroic in glad stance though. For starters he'd have 25% less stamina and 25% more damage taken. Not to mention the fact that glad stance has no threat generation bonusses. Maybe it will be possible later in the expansion with higher gear levels but right now? No way.
Sure, but tanking wasn't the point. Alventenie never mentioned he was tanking.
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Guys, in your opinions, Outland or Ravencrest?
What about login queues?
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On November 20 2014 18:39 wishr wrote:
Guys, in your opinions, Outland or Ravencrest?
What about login queues?
I played in Ravencrest during vanilla and BC days. Lots of Nordic/danish people, probably still the same. F(r)iend of mine plays there on alliance and he has to go to low level instances and try not to get disconnected to avoid queues. So i guess there's some.
Think Bumblebee and/or some other TLers played on Ravencrest? They'll know.
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On November 20 2014 18:46 Grettin wrote:
Fiend of mine plays there...
Hehe, funny spelling mistake, made me laugh 
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On November 20 2014 18:49 ViperPL wrote:Hehe, funny spelling mistake, made me laugh
Oops. 
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On November 20 2014 18:17 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 17:39 Mikau wrote:On November 20 2014 14:56 Grettin wrote:On November 20 2014 11:58 F1rstAssau1t wrote:On November 20 2014 11:20 jubil wrote:On November 20 2014 10:35 heartlxp wrote:On November 20 2014 07:40 Broodwurst wrote:On November 20 2014 07:35 Serejai wrote:
So... they only sold 3.3m copies, but have over 10 million subs. So two-thirds of the playerbase is still farming Siege of Orgrimmar, apparently.
Also interesting is that subs increased by 2.6 million, which means only 700,000 players that were subscribed since September actually bought the expansion.
Those numbers still seem greatly inflated, though, and if you look at the fine print it says they include key distributors; so if a place like G2A bought a million keys from Blizzard but has only sold 100 of them, it would still be reported as a million subs. A key doesn't count as a sub, unless there's gametime attached to it which is only the case for the base game. Also they mention internet cafes where one bought key is played by x amount of people - which has alsways been like that. hmm would definitely like an explanation for the difference between 3.3m and 10m...does that really mean 6.7m people are actively subscribed without WoD? 3.3m and ~3.5m would be much more believable. Well, example of one - I reactivated my sub last month to try and level up enough to get into SoO at least once before the expo hit but have held off on purchasing WoD as I can't really afford to be distracted from work atm Will probably just get it next week... Normally I would have guessed that there are plenty of casuals who are below max level and are just leveling before getting the expo, but they plugged the insta boost to 90 so hard, in every ad, it's hard to imagine anyone hesitating on that account. In any case, it's nice to see overall numbers so high. This expansion must have really struck a chord somehow. " Blizzard Entertainment today announced that as of the first 24 hours of the expansion’s availability, more than 3.3 million copies had sold-through† and the game’s global subscriber base had passed 10 million, with growth across all major regions." What i get from this is that 3.3 million copies were sold after the launch of WoD (November 13), so they are not countrin "pre purchase" of the expansion in this numbers. So that could mean that probably the other 7 million or less got WoD already before that. Exactly. It's still missing Korea, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau and apparently the last 5 days. On November 20 2014 12:36 Alventenie wrote:
It is rather lulzy. Had a prot warrior who topped DPS charts today in a heroic Auchindoun. Either your group was rather weak or the prot warrior was gladiator. As said above, its one of the most dealing dps spec right now in the game. Think it tops Warrior dps easily as well. There's no way the warrior tanked a heroic in glad stance though. For starters he'd have 25% less stamina and 25% more damage taken. Not to mention the fact that glad stance has no threat generation bonusses. Maybe it will be possible later in the expansion with higher gear levels but right now? No way. Sure, but tanking wasn't the point. Alventenie never mentioned he was tanking.
Yeah good point. I saw prot and just assumed tank.
I must be doing something wrong when solo'ing as Gladiator though, I don't feel my dps is that high. Nothing compared to my hunter or mage.
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On November 20 2014 20:36 Mikau wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:17 Grettin wrote:On November 20 2014 17:39 Mikau wrote:On November 20 2014 14:56 Grettin wrote:On November 20 2014 11:58 F1rstAssau1t wrote:On November 20 2014 11:20 jubil wrote:On November 20 2014 10:35 heartlxp wrote:On November 20 2014 07:40 Broodwurst wrote:On November 20 2014 07:35 Serejai wrote:
So... they only sold 3.3m copies, but have over 10 million subs. So two-thirds of the playerbase is still farming Siege of Orgrimmar, apparently.
Also interesting is that subs increased by 2.6 million, which means only 700,000 players that were subscribed since September actually bought the expansion.
Those numbers still seem greatly inflated, though, and if you look at the fine print it says they include key distributors; so if a place like G2A bought a million keys from Blizzard but has only sold 100 of them, it would still be reported as a million subs. A key doesn't count as a sub, unless there's gametime attached to it which is only the case for the base game. Also they mention internet cafes where one bought key is played by x amount of people - which has alsways been like that. hmm would definitely like an explanation for the difference between 3.3m and 10m...does that really mean 6.7m people are actively subscribed without WoD? 3.3m and ~3.5m would be much more believable. Well, example of one - I reactivated my sub last month to try and level up enough to get into SoO at least once before the expo hit but have held off on purchasing WoD as I can't really afford to be distracted from work atm Will probably just get it next week... Normally I would have guessed that there are plenty of casuals who are below max level and are just leveling before getting the expo, but they plugged the insta boost to 90 so hard, in every ad, it's hard to imagine anyone hesitating on that account. In any case, it's nice to see overall numbers so high. This expansion must have really struck a chord somehow. " Blizzard Entertainment today announced that as of the first 24 hours of the expansion’s availability, more than 3.3 million copies had sold-through† and the game’s global subscriber base had passed 10 million, with growth across all major regions." What i get from this is that 3.3 million copies were sold after the launch of WoD (November 13), so they are not countrin "pre purchase" of the expansion in this numbers. So that could mean that probably the other 7 million or less got WoD already before that. Exactly. It's still missing Korea, China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Macau and apparently the last 5 days. On November 20 2014 12:36 Alventenie wrote:
It is rather lulzy. Had a prot warrior who topped DPS charts today in a heroic Auchindoun. Either your group was rather weak or the prot warrior was gladiator. As said above, its one of the most dealing dps spec right now in the game. Think it tops Warrior dps easily as well. There's no way the warrior tanked a heroic in glad stance though. For starters he'd have 25% less stamina and 25% more damage taken. Not to mention the fact that glad stance has no threat generation bonusses. Maybe it will be possible later in the expansion with higher gear levels but right now? No way. Sure, but tanking wasn't the point. Alventenie never mentioned he was tanking. Yeah good point. I saw prot and just assumed tank. I must be doing something wrong when solo'ing as Gladiator though, I don't feel my dps is that high. Nothing compared to my hunter or mage.
pool rage, pop shield charge, unload with HS, repeat
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On November 20 2014 18:46 Grettin wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 18:39 wishr wrote:
Guys, in your opinions, Outland or Ravencrest?
What about login queues? I played in Ravencrest during vanilla and BC days. Lots of Nordic/danish people, probably still the same. F(r)iend of mine plays there on alliance and he has to go to low level instances and try not to get disconnected to avoid queues. So i guess there's some. Think Bumblebee and/or some other TLers played on Ravencrest? They'll know.
I'm on Ravencrest with my holy pala, and I think it's a really good server for alliance. These days I think there are queues, but it will die down eventually I think.
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I went from 90 to 94 and only saw six other players the entire time (three zones). Seems like a hood time to level alts because the leveling content is a ghost town.
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Italy12246 Posts
On November 20 2014 12:07 BisuDagger wrote:
Are people enjoying this expansion so far? How far has combat come along since mists release?
The expansion is really cool, arguably the best ever actually. Regarding balance atm it's a clusterfuck since the current build is the same the used to try and balance lvl 90 around 6.0 talents/skills, with the result that some specs are op as hell while others are hilariously awful (fire mages in particular).
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On November 21 2014 00:22 Teoita wrote:Show nested quote +On November 20 2014 12:07 BisuDagger wrote:
Are people enjoying this expansion so far? How far has combat come along since mists release? The expansion is really cool, arguably the best ever actually. Regarding balance atm it's a clusterfuck since the current build is the same the used to try and balance lvl 90 around 6.0 talents/skills, with the result that some specs are op as hell while others are hilariously awful (fire mages in particular).
I wouldn't rush to judge anything about this expansion just yet. The first tier of raid content hasn't even been released.
If we're going off of just reactions from the leveling and gearing process Cataclysm was by far my favorite expansion and I think everyone agrees that it fell off quite heavily in the later tiers.
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