EPTbut no mmr means games are rarely even
mostly just noobs
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
but no mmr means games are rarely even mostly just noobs | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On February 08 2020 14:22 Erasme wrote: im having fun but no mmr means games are rarely even mostly just noobs There is MMR, you can now even see it by typing !mmr in Versus games. But yeah, the games are still often uneven so their system is not working very well. I thought RT 2v2/3v3/4v4 would share the same MMR but actually it seems separate. Another change to Lost Temple: the islands are no longer islands, there is a ground path to them via the red creep camp near the labs. MMR apparently starts at 1500 and the max seems 3000. | ||
GTR
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Manit0u
Poland17257 Posts
On February 09 2020 08:32 GTR wrote: happy's 15-long weekly cup win streak comes to an end as cash defeats him 2-0 in the quarter-finals of the ryzing cup. It's funny how in recent years there were only 2 players that had a positive winrate against him (Infi and Lyn). And after all those years I've just realized how weak NE T2 is. They literally don't have any significant units there apart from dryads who are pretty much hard-countered by T1 and T2 units of other races. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland25322 Posts
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On February 10 2020 00:52 Wombat_NI wrote: Well my old install has been patched, figured I'd resume my campaign. Am I being an idiot or missing something obvious because I can't seem to find somewhere to enter my CD keys from my original version? You mean, on the Battle.Net site? | ||
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ilsamsamchil
155 Posts
On February 10 2020 00:52 Wombat_NI wrote: Well my old install has been patched, figured I'd resume my campaign. Am I being an idiot or missing something obvious because I can't seem to find somewhere to enter my CD keys from my original version? Last time I checked(last year) it should be on the page of the download or the one before, where you select out the game from the list of the games you own. The word on the streets is that blizzard gutted the graphic effects on the latest version of classic, I am normally a medium particle setting person myself but must suck for a lot of people. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On February 09 2020 23:15 Manit0u wrote: It's funny how in recent years there were only 2 players that had a positive winrate against him (Infi and Lyn). And after all those years I've just realized how weak NE T2 is. They literally don't have any significant units there apart from dryads who are pretty much hard-countered by T1 and T2 units of other races. moons been staying on t1 longer than other NE, taking a b2 quite fast and making mostly hunts/archers | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
On the other hand, Happy's dominance has been amazing for the Euro scene. Hawk, Cash and Foggy have all been appreciably improving in the past 3 months and it has clearly had a lot to do with Happy. Having this unbeatable, mighty opponent you run into in every tournament makes you either adapt or be irrelevant. All 3 of them have had some juicy fucking series vs Happy that always seem to go Happy's way. But they've been getting close. Losing 2-3 is not the same as losing 3-0. They are getting there. I'd love to see Cash, Hawk and Foggy all in the next WGL. As for Reforged graphics: Still complete ass. Many fights I simply can't track to nearly the detail I used to. Part of it is that me coming from years of competitive play, there is a lot I am paying attention to. Sure, I get the general impression of who is winning a fight, but that is not nearly the whole story. There is so much nuance that I am used to focusing on and appreciating. I can't do that anymore on B2W's stream. It is significantly less stimulating because I am absorbing so much less information. I just don't see what I used to see. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
The amount of stuff they have fixed and the various improvements here and there just shows how completely careless they have been with the release. They should have delayed it by 1 or 2 weeks to fix major bugs and it would not have been such a disaster. What a waste… It's clear that their matchmaking system is not working in RT. I have 2650+ MMR in both 2v2 and 4v4 and I still get almost instant games whenever I search, which means the game isn't ''waiting'' to search a bit for better opponents. I get matched against whoever is searching at the moment. Yesterday my last ally had 13 apm. Yes, 13. I didn't forget a figure here lol. One of my allies today said that he had 544 MMR (it starts at 1500). One of my opponents was so new that he played without a hero... Also they should not have capped MMR at 3000, that way they could have sorted out players by rating and give them a rank like before (highest MMR = rank 1, etc.). It would not be a proper ladder, but still people who love ranks could have something to fight for. If you play on Europe, you can see your stats (or anyone if you know the ID of the player) here: http://profile.w3booster.com/ Blizzard should implement a !stats command as well so that we can see them in game. I played only one race so far but I got a few games on others, I guess it's the joinbugs… If I count well, I got like 50+ of them out of 260+ games, it's insane. That's almost 20% of joinbugs. They really need to make them count as a draw… | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
On February 12 2020 03:15 TheDwf wrote: I played only one race so far but I got a few games on others, I guess it's the joinbugs… If I count well, I got like 50+ of them out of 260+ games, it's insane. That's almost 20% of joinbugs. They really need to make them count as a draw… Only thing I'll point out is that when you allow for draws, suddenly Happy is unable to ladder ever again. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8075 Posts
On February 12 2020 03:31 Mohdoo wrote: Only thing I'll point out is that when you allow for draws, suddenly Happy is unable to ladder ever again. Why's that? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
All the people who want to be pro but never will be who obsess over their ladder record/rank. Lots of people on Netease immediately leave vs Happy, take the 10 minute time out and search again later. For people who obsess over their ladder score, playing vs someone as consistent as Happy makes no sense. Happy has a 80% win rate vs ***Foggy***. Most high ranked ladder players would likely not win a game game in a BO51. | ||
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TheDwf
France19747 Posts
On February 12 2020 03:45 Mohdoo wrote: All the people who want to be pro but never will be who obsess over their ladder record/rank. Lots of people on Netease immediately leave vs Happy, take the 10 minute time out and search again later. For people who obsess over their ladder score, playing vs someone as consistent as Happy makes no sense. Happy has a 80% win rate vs ***Foggy***. Most high ranked ladder players would likely not win a game game in a BO51. What does it have to do with joinbugs not counting as a win or a loss? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
On February 12 2020 03:46 TheDwf wrote: What does it have to do with joinbugs not counting as a win or a loss? Sorry, my impression was that since it is understood that sometimes shit goes wild with join bugs, the idea is that a game is considered invalid if it ends before (amount of time). I am assuming that Blizzard has a hard time telling the difference between a join bug and someone just alt+f4. So, if it is possible to invalidate a game in the beginning, people leave vs Happy, as is the case on Netease. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8075 Posts
On February 12 2020 04:15 Mohdoo wrote: Sorry, my impression was that since it is understood that sometimes shit goes wild with join bugs, the idea is that a game is considered invalid if it ends before (amount of time). I am assuming that Blizzard has a hard time telling the difference between a join bug and someone just alt+f4. So, if it is possible to invalidate a game in the beginning, people leave vs Happy, as is the case on Netease. Should be an absolute cakewalk to differentiate between someone leaving early and someone never connecting properly in the first place. This is Blizzard we're talking about tho, who haven't shown themselves remotely capable lately..so maybe not. | ||
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M3t4PhYzX
Poland4195 Posts
On February 11 2020 02:27 Mohdoo wrote: Happy's streak was bound to end at some point and of course it would be an orc. Happy probably just rolled his eyes after losing. It is impossible to appreciably improve when you win every single game. On the other hand, Happy's dominance has been amazing for the Euro scene. Hawk, Cash and Foggy have all been appreciably improving in the past 3 months and it has clearly had a lot to do with Happy. Having this unbeatable, mighty opponent you run into in every tournament makes you either adapt or be irrelevant. All 3 of them have had some juicy fucking series vs Happy that always seem to go Happy's way. But they've been getting close. Losing 2-3 is not the same as losing 3-0. They are getting there. I'd love to see Cash, Hawk and Foggy all in the next WGL. As for Reforged graphics: Still complete ass. Many fights I simply can't track to nearly the detail I used to. Part of it is that me coming from years of competitive play, there is a lot I am paying attention to. Sure, I get the general impression of who is winning a fight, but that is not nearly the whole story. There is so much nuance that I am used to focusing on and appreciating. I can't do that anymore on B2W's stream. It is significantly less stimulating because I am absorbing so much less information. I just don't see what I used to see. Same here man, same here.. I already know i will never "get used to" these new graphics.. They're just simply so off-putting to me.. I can't really enjoy watching the games anymore even if the commentary is good quality.. Damnit. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15689 Posts
On February 12 2020 07:26 M3t4PhYzX wrote: Same here man, same here.. I already know i will never "get used to" these new graphics.. They're just simply so off-putting to me.. I can't really enjoy watching the games anymore even if the commentary is good quality.. Damnit. B2W is so good I still enjoy the casts, but something has been lost here. The thing is, it looks like Blizzard is actively trying to fix it. They just had to release it early. It will probably be totally fine in a year. Until then, I see no reason to stop using Netease. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany6929 Posts
On February 12 2020 03:15 TheDwf wrote: The amount of stuff they have fixed and the various improvements here and there just shows how completely careless they have been with the release. They should have delayed it by 1 or 2 weeks to fix major bugs and it would not have been such a disaster. What a waste… I think they are just bandaiding now and not really looking for the deeper issues. They worked on this so long, I don't think 1-2 weeks would have made a difference TBH Or maybe it would. I guess since the shitstorm has the size of a fullfledged hurricane they added some guys to the team from other projects who actually know what they are doing | ||
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Excludos
Norway8075 Posts
On February 12 2020 15:54 Harris1st wrote: I think they are just bandaiding now and not really looking for the deeper issues. They worked on this so long, I don't think 1-2 weeks would have made a difference TBH Or maybe it would. I guess since the shitstorm has the size of a fullfledged hurricane they added some guys to the team from other projects who actually know what they are doing You generally can't really just join a team and be productive within 2 weeks. It takes a long time to get used to the new code, architecture, formatting, etc. So even if Blizzard did add more people, we shouldn't have seen the result of that yet. I think it's just a lack of proper testing procedures combined with strict estimates. These have been small fixes which have helped a lot for the overall quality, that they should have seen and done themselves, but for some reason didn't. The fact that they were quickly fixed really underlines how badly the whole project is being handled. Reminds me of my old job, where we weren't allowed to write unit tests because it would eat into our ability to write new features. The only bug fixing we did was when customers reported something back to us. It eventually resulted in a bug where our app failed to report that a sensor had died, eventually resulting in several hundred thousands fish being killed due to a lack of oxygen in the water. That's about the time when I started to look for work elsewhere. | ||
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