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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 17:00:11
February 06 2020 16:58 GMT
#4101
I can't even imagine being someone who had worked on their own custom games/campaigns for the game, only to find them all deleted by an invasive update that forces the new game(and terms) onto you. I've made my share of SC2 maps, where sure, the EULA isn't dissimilar in any significant way, but if I woke up one day to find Battle.Net took it upon itself to delete all of my files I would be fuming. Or depressed, honestly. There really isn't much separating the Reforged update from malware at that point.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 06 2020 17:18 GMT
#4102
On February 06 2020 23:25 Wombat_NI wrote:
Speaking of hotkeys I read somewhere you can’t remap them natively in the game, surely they at least added that feature?

You still have to manually edit the CustomKeys.txt file and activate the option. There is no possibility to modify hotkeys within the game like in SC2.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25317 Posts
February 06 2020 18:31 GMT
#4103
On February 07 2020 01:58 NewSunshine wrote:
I can't even imagine being someone who had worked on their own custom games/campaigns for the game, only to find them all deleted by an invasive update that forces the new game(and terms) onto you. I've made my share of SC2 maps, where sure, the EULA isn't dissimilar in any significant way, but if I woke up one day to find Battle.Net took it upon itself to delete all of my files I would be fuming. Or depressed, honestly. There really isn't much separating the Reforged update from malware at that point.

At least an EULA you have to click that you agree, even though they’re insanely long and worded in legalise that the lay person generally won’t have the patience or expertise to understand. People have won in court cases on such agreements being unreasonable to wade through, although I would imagine that wouldn’t be the case every time.

Presumably original owners of WC3 agreed to a rather different EULA, and haven’t even been given the ‘want to upgrade? Accept these terms’ option.

It’s ridiculous and I really feel for those users affected.

As I said I was aware that this was a thing and even then I didn’t even notice that the update was going through. It’s really not a million miles away from those bits of invasive DRM software that caused users genera system problems.

I think it’s this more than almost any other issue that’s probably pushing me from the ‘I might purchase this when it’s good’ to ‘I’m not giving this company my money’
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 20:08:37
February 06 2020 19:39 GMT
#4104
New patch released with some bug fixes:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/warcraft-iii-version-1321-patch-notes/19379

The patch is 2.2 Go

There are real geniuses working at Blizzard nowadays. To differentiate Classic users from people who bought Reforged, they... removed colors in the background of the main menu for Classic users:

• Developer’s note: We’ve implemented a temporary solution to better inform whether you are playing in Reforged or Classic mode, by applying a sepia tone to the background images for Classic.

And yes, it looks as bad as it sounds:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I don't know what to say, really. Even for "details" like this, they manage to **** up and implement a new downgrade lol. Jesus...
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
February 06 2020 20:29 GMT
#4105
We really needed a reminder that we are too poor for reforged. Next update will feature a pop up every game "too poor to buy reforged loser?" Also, the heck 2GB update for when classic client did not even take 2GB?
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 06 2020 20:48 GMT
#4106
Frost Armor (and other effects I guess) appears properly, so they fixed whatever was causing it to be weaker visually.

They changed something with the sounds, something is off. The ambiance noises seemed loud at the start of the game.

Keyboard works again in replays.

They changed the replay path to the BattleNet folder for some reason, seems like you have to transfer your replays there so that they appear in game.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51449 Posts
February 06 2020 20:50 GMT
#4107
No one:
Blizzard: HEY LETS PUT IN A SHITTY SEPIA TONE IN THE CLASSIC CLIENT SO PEOPLE GET MORE MAD AT US
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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15689 Posts
February 06 2020 21:01 GMT
#4108
On February 07 2020 04:39 TheDwf wrote:
New patch released with some bug fixes:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/warcraft-iii-version-1321-patch-notes/19379

The patch is 2.2 Go

There are real geniuses working at Blizzard nowadays. To differentiate Classic users from people who bought Reforged, they... removed colors in the background of the main menu for Classic users:

Show nested quote +
• Developer’s note: We’ve implemented a temporary solution to better inform whether you are playing in Reforged or Classic mode, by applying a sepia tone to the background images for Classic.

And yes, it looks as bad as it sounds:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I don't know what to say, really. Even for "details" like this, they manage to **** up and implement a new downgrade lol. Jesus...


I'm speechless
Duka08
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
3391 Posts
February 06 2020 21:04 GMT
#4109
On February 07 2020 04:39 TheDwf wrote:
New patch released with some bug fixes:

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/warcraft3/t/warcraft-iii-version-1321-patch-notes/19379

The patch is 2.2 Go

There are real geniuses working at Blizzard nowadays. To differentiate Classic users from people who bought Reforged, they... removed colors in the background of the main menu for Classic users:

Show nested quote +
• Developer’s note: We’ve implemented a temporary solution to better inform whether you are playing in Reforged or Classic mode, by applying a sepia tone to the background images for Classic.

And yes, it looks as bad as it sounds:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I don't know what to say, really. Even for "details" like this, they manage to **** up and implement a new downgrade lol. Jesus...

This is incredible
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 21:08:04
February 06 2020 21:04 GMT
#4110
Hahaha that Sepia colour... They should also remove all music and only play the WoW corpsewalk music so you really realize the old game has been killed, and get your 30 euros ready
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
February 06 2020 21:21 GMT
#4111
On February 07 2020 06:04 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Hahaha that Sepia colour... They should also remove all music and only play the WoW corpsewalk music so you really realize the old game has been killed, and get your 30 euros ready

At least when you're playing classic mode on the StarCraft remaster you're not constantly being kicked in the teeth with it. Holy shit.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
February 06 2020 21:22 GMT
#4112
Remember guys, this is a "temp solution" to help people know if they are using reforged or not. I wonder what is the permanent solution will be.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 06 2020 21:28 GMT
#4113
On February 07 2020 06:22 Wrath wrote:
Remember guys, this is a "temp solution" to help people know if they are using reforged or not. I wonder what is the permanent solution will be.

Probably everything in black and white
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25317 Posts
February 06 2020 21:33 GMT
#4114
On February 07 2020 06:28 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2020 06:22 Wrath wrote:
Remember guys, this is a "temp solution" to help people know if they are using reforged or not. I wonder what is the permanent solution will be.

Probably everything in black and white

Silent movie Warcraft 3 with a rocking piano soundtrack and occasional cuts to a black screen with the dialogue written on it.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 21:38:14
February 06 2020 21:37 GMT
#4115
Just an ad to buy Reforged that hijacks your whole computer and forces you to unplug it. But on one of those kitchy wooden signs like when Hearthstone crashes.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
RandomPlayer416
Profile Joined January 2019
84 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 22:07:08
February 06 2020 21:54 GMT
#4116
On February 07 2020 06:22 Wrath wrote:
Remember guys, this is a "temp solution" to help people know if they are using reforged or not. I wonder what is the permanent solution will be.


The permanent solution will be to remain with the temporary solution.
Wrath
Profile Blog Joined July 2014
3174 Posts
February 06 2020 22:08 GMT
#4117
Hopefully they won't implement a final solution on us classic plebs lol
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15689 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 22:47:57
February 06 2020 22:47 GMT
#4118
This is why people are saying Reforged is super fucked. With the issues they currently have, some dumb fuck manager was saying "hey but our numbers are low, so shame people into buying the game". So some engineer had to get that disaster running. Fix disconnects? Nah. How about focus on shaming our customers who are apparently so loyal that they are re-buying a 15 year old game. Christ.
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 22:55:19
February 06 2020 22:55 GMT
#4119
Just watch this for a quick overview between what a remaster should look like... and what reforged is. Sad.

For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
JohnDelaney
Profile Joined November 2019
Ireland73 Posts
February 06 2020 22:55 GMT
#4120
Do they plan on fixing other bugs like the new custom game EULA, the custom game report button that nobody wants, the missing ranked ladder, and the unnecessary 30GB download for classic-only users?
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