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TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
February 06 2020 23:27 GMT
#4121
I don't know what they did to the sounds but many of them are completely odd. Roar doesn't sound at all like before, missile attacks sound bizarre overall. Fiends do a weird hissing noise when attacking instead of their usual sound. The Frost Arrow of the Naga is different, the Chain Lightning of the FS too, etc., etc.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
February 06 2020 23:29 GMT
#4122
Heh, aoe2 is not a good example for this either. Yeah the newest edition looks nice and is well made, but they already had one "HD" remake in 2013, which had a plethora of DLC, altogether around 50$ iirc. Then they decided to abandon that and do another remake and dub it "Definitive", yeah sure whats next, "Turbo" version in another 4 years for another 20$? And everyone who wanted to continue playing multiplayer has to buy the new version or be left with a tiny playerbase. Thats not exactly consumer friendy either.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8186 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 23:30:46
February 06 2020 23:30 GMT
#4123
On February 07 2020 07:55 JohnDelaney wrote:
Do they plan on fixing other bugs like the new custom game EULA, the custom game report button that nobody wants, the missing ranked ladder, and the unnecessary 30GB download for classic-only users?


Those are not bugs, they're intended. They won't "fix" those (Except for ranked ladder, which is probably on their todo list)
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8186 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-06 23:50:16
February 06 2020 23:48 GMT
#4124
On February 07 2020 08:29 Warri wrote:
Heh, aoe2 is not a good example for this either. Yeah the newest edition looks nice and is well made, but they already had one "HD" remake in 2013, which had a plethora of DLC, altogether around 50$ iirc. Then they decided to abandon that and do another remake and dub it "Definitive", yeah sure whats next, "Turbo" version in another 4 years for another 20$? And everyone who wanted to continue playing multiplayer has to buy the new version or be left with a tiny playerbase. Thats not exactly consumer friendy either.


I'm not sure how remastering the game twice, 8 years apart, can be considered a scummy move, especially when both the original and the original remake are viable working products. You're right that the HD edition was too expensive tho. They fixed that second time around. And the care and work they've put into the definitive edition is staggering. All the while, get this, you can still play the original one! Mindblowing.

If they make another "turbo" remake in 8 years, with this amount of content and this amount of work put into it, sign me the fuck up.
Warri
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany3208 Posts
February 06 2020 23:58 GMT
#4125
On February 07 2020 08:48 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2020 08:29 Warri wrote:
Heh, aoe2 is not a good example for this either. Yeah the newest edition looks nice and is well made, but they already had one "HD" remake in 2013, which had a plethora of DLC, altogether around 50$ iirc. Then they decided to abandon that and do another remake and dub it "Definitive", yeah sure whats next, "Turbo" version in another 4 years for another 20$? And everyone who wanted to continue playing multiplayer has to buy the new version or be left with a tiny playerbase. Thats not exactly consumer friendy either.


I'm not sure how remastering the game twice, 8 years apart, can be considered a scummy move, especially when both the original and the original remake are viable working products. You're right that the HD edition was too expensive tho. They fixed that second time around. And the care and work they've put into the definitive edition is staggering. All the while, get this, you can still play the original one! Mindblowing.

If they make another "turbo" remake in 8 years, with this amount of content and this amount of work put into it, sign me the fuck up.

It's 6 years between 2013 and 2019, 3 years if you count from year the latest DLC released (2016). But you are right, of course, it's infinitely better than what blizzard is doing, at least you can still play the other versions.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8186 Posts
February 07 2020 00:01 GMT
#4126
On February 07 2020 08:58 Warri wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2020 08:48 Excludos wrote:
On February 07 2020 08:29 Warri wrote:
Heh, aoe2 is not a good example for this either. Yeah the newest edition looks nice and is well made, but they already had one "HD" remake in 2013, which had a plethora of DLC, altogether around 50$ iirc. Then they decided to abandon that and do another remake and dub it "Definitive", yeah sure whats next, "Turbo" version in another 4 years for another 20$? And everyone who wanted to continue playing multiplayer has to buy the new version or be left with a tiny playerbase. Thats not exactly consumer friendy either.


I'm not sure how remastering the game twice, 8 years apart, can be considered a scummy move, especially when both the original and the original remake are viable working products. You're right that the HD edition was too expensive tho. They fixed that second time around. And the care and work they've put into the definitive edition is staggering. All the while, get this, you can still play the original one! Mindblowing.

If they make another "turbo" remake in 8 years, with this amount of content and this amount of work put into it, sign me the fuck up.

It's 6 years between 2013 and 2019, 3 years if you count from year the latest DLC released (2016). But you are right, of course, it's infinitely better than what blizzard is doing, at least you can still play the other versions.


Sorry. My brain malfunctioned. You're right on the years
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26081 Posts
February 07 2020 13:31 GMT
#4127
I’m looking to reinstall from my discs, or use the method to get a 1.31 install that was mentioned earlier in the thread.

Is there any way to avoid the Bnet app auto-updating your WC3 client? Like changing the file directory or anything like that?

I would like to play the WC3 campaign, I’m happy with the original game. Until ladder is added I’m not that interested in playing multiplayer at present.

My current PC is extremely limited in terms of available storage, I’m currently uninstalling/reinstalling things from my Steam library on a per-play basis for example so I really don’t want 30 gigs of a bloated install on my PC if I can possibly avoid it.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium4960 Posts
February 07 2020 14:01 GMT
#4128
Disconnect from the internet when installing?
Taxes are for Terrans
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8186 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-07 14:06:26
February 07 2020 14:05 GMT
#4129
Blizzard has now caved to the pressure and are issuing auto-refunds for W3 Reforged. That doesn't undo the damage they did with the classic, but at least a step in the right direction for anyone who felt tricked by their false advertisement.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8186 Posts
February 07 2020 14:07 GMT
#4130
On February 07 2020 22:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
I’m looking to reinstall from my discs, or use the method to get a 1.31 install that was mentioned earlier in the thread.

Is there any way to avoid the Bnet app auto-updating your WC3 client? Like changing the file directory or anything like that?

I would like to play the WC3 campaign, I’m happy with the original game. Until ladder is added I’m not that interested in playing multiplayer at present.

My current PC is extremely limited in terms of available storage, I’m currently uninstalling/reinstalling things from my Steam library on a per-play basis for example so I really don’t want 30 gigs of a bloated install on my PC if I can possibly avoid it.


Guy above me has the right idea. Disconnect from internet while installing, then add W3.exe to your firewall so it can't ever connect to it.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6996 Posts
February 07 2020 14:15 GMT
#4131
I like how you have to have a bachelor degree in IT to play a game nowadays XD
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26081 Posts
February 07 2020 14:42 GMT
#4132
On February 07 2020 23:07 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2020 22:31 Wombat_NI wrote:
I’m looking to reinstall from my discs, or use the method to get a 1.31 install that was mentioned earlier in the thread.

Is there any way to avoid the Bnet app auto-updating your WC3 client? Like changing the file directory or anything like that?

I would like to play the WC3 campaign, I’m happy with the original game. Until ladder is added I’m not that interested in playing multiplayer at present.

My current PC is extremely limited in terms of available storage, I’m currently uninstalling/reinstalling things from my Steam library on a per-play basis for example so I really don’t want 30 gigs of a bloated install on my PC if I can possibly avoid it.


Guy above me has the right idea. Disconnect from internet while installing, then add W3.exe to your firewall so it can't ever connect to it.

Ah, the firewall call is pretty good!

I still occasionally play SC2 so I can’t completely avoid the Bnet architecture but that should work
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland26081 Posts
February 07 2020 14:43 GMT
#4133
On February 07 2020 23:15 Harris1st wrote:
I like how you have to have a bachelor degree in IT to play a game nowadays XD

As I’m trying to learn computer science things this is the one silver lining of the fucking debacle
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8186 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-07 14:59:23
February 07 2020 14:57 GMT
#4134
On February 07 2020 23:15 Harris1st wrote:
I like how you have to have a bachelor degree in IT to play a game nowadays XD


Dunno about you, but I grew up too poor (Not really, my parents were just stingy) to buy my games, so I had to download most of them. Around the DRM era, cracks could vary from simply copying over an .exe file to writing full scripts, turning your cd rom upside down, overwriting half of your registry keys, painting a pentagram on the floor with some lit candles, changing your system settings to Japanese, abducting a gypsy, removing your system clock battery, demagnetising your hard drives, have a shootout with the cops, and willingly install aids on your computer.

The things a kid can learn in order to reach his entertainment is staggering.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6996 Posts
February 07 2020 15:26 GMT
#4135
On February 07 2020 23:57 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2020 23:15 Harris1st wrote:
I like how you have to have a bachelor degree in IT to play a game nowadays XD


Dunno about you, but I grew up too poor (Not really, my parents were just stingy) to buy my games, so I had to download most of them. Around the DRM era, cracks could vary from simply copying over an .exe file to writing full scripts, turning your cd rom upside down, overwriting half of your registry keys, painting a pentagram on the floor with some lit candles, changing your system settings to Japanese, abducting a gypsy, removing your system clock battery, demagnetising your hard drives, have a shootout with the cops, and willingly install aids on your computer.

The things a kid can learn in order to reach his entertainment is staggering.


Haha yeah me too. Until I got caught once (stupid young me and torrents) and had to pay quite a sum :/

After that I stopped, mainly because I lost all computer privileges along with my PC (aka the family PC)
Well, first they just tried to lock me out but after I cracked every kind of password my parents and older brother could imagine (windows password and BIOS password all had backdoors then ^^' ) they just took away the monitor
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8186 Posts
February 07 2020 16:15 GMT
#4136
On February 08 2020 00:26 Harris1st wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 07 2020 23:57 Excludos wrote:
On February 07 2020 23:15 Harris1st wrote:
I like how you have to have a bachelor degree in IT to play a game nowadays XD


Dunno about you, but I grew up too poor (Not really, my parents were just stingy) to buy my games, so I had to download most of them. Around the DRM era, cracks could vary from simply copying over an .exe file to writing full scripts, turning your cd rom upside down, overwriting half of your registry keys, painting a pentagram on the floor with some lit candles, changing your system settings to Japanese, abducting a gypsy, removing your system clock battery, demagnetising your hard drives, have a shootout with the cops, and willingly install aids on your computer.

The things a kid can learn in order to reach his entertainment is staggering.


Haha yeah me too. Until I got caught once (stupid young me and torrents) and had to pay quite a sum :/

After that I stopped, mainly because I lost all computer privileges along with my PC (aka the family PC)
Well, first they just tried to lock me out but after I cracked every kind of password my parents and older brother could imagine (windows password and BIOS password all had backdoors then ^^' ) they just took away the monitor


I just must have gotten dirt lucky with my torrents. I long thought that Norwegian IPs just didn't enclose personal information, but a friend of mine tried it (after I egged him on telling him hos easy it was) and got caught immediately. No fine, but a warning letter (Which I would have laughed at, but he took it seriously).

But my family did try to cut down on my computer addiction for a while, but I was pretty resourceful (again, only when there's something between me and my entertainment. Otherwise I was dumb as bread), so they gave up after a few tries. One OS password I literally cracked by just typing in 8 stars. I still have no idea if that was a legit security hole, or if they actually put that as the password.
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
February 07 2020 16:59 GMT
#4137
On February 07 2020 23:15 Harris1st wrote:
I like how you have to have a bachelor degree in IT to play a game nowadays XD

Well, for most of the time of wc3s existence, you basically needed a PhD in wizardry to host a map yourself or get arranged team to work. So it's an improvement.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17442 Posts
February 07 2020 17:53 GMT
#4138
On February 07 2020 23:57 Excludos wrote:
changing your system settings to Japanese


Ahh, the good old hentai games
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-07 18:06:44
February 07 2020 17:57 GMT
#4139
They added Taverns to Lost Temple with the last patch (on the lateral paths). I was surprised to meet a Panda there.

When you get a joinbug, sometimes it restarts searching automatically after a few seconds, sometimes you have to restart the game. I don't know what causes the difference.

The color switch bug is fixed, it's nice.

Ok, I hear on streams that the change of sounds was not on my end.
M3t4PhYzX
Profile Joined March 2019
Poland4227 Posts
February 08 2020 01:07 GMT
#4140
seems like the NetEase servers are down due to them changing the version to 1.32 aka "Reforged" version..

if it's true then.. well, RIP TFT.. 17 years of awesome fun, it was a glorious run for sure.

Damn..
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