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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 01 2015 02:36 GMT
#3241
rolled a lkali first roll, then nothing. still she completes my ra team quite well.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
April 01 2015 03:10 GMT
#3242
On April 01 2015 10:52 jinyung2 wrote:
Urd is a pretty good leader, probably better than Haku but narrower sub pool.


Urd is heavily dependent on the ability to pull Kagu though...
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Xafnia
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada874 Posts
April 01 2015 06:16 GMT
#3243
Rolled again. Water wizard sharon.
More garbage rolls woo yay.
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
April 01 2015 06:21 GMT
#3244
2 rolls, Light dragon swordsman and my white whale LU BUUUUUUUU. Damn feels good since I got a noel dragon lined up for him hehe.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 11:23:08
April 01 2015 11:14 GMT
#3245
On April 01 2015 12:10 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2015 10:52 jinyung2 wrote:
Urd is a pretty good leader, probably better than Haku but narrower sub pool.


Urd is heavily dependent on the ability to pull Kagu though...


Urd requires a lot of REM sub pulls.

Either Kagu, multiple Urd, Nim, and a Red Valk.

I run Urd, Urd, Urd, Nim, Theuriga to great effect right now but it's stupidly REM lucky. That said the team runs at like 35k hp and 10k RCV and hits like a truck...

This god fest was bad for me. I pulled 7 silver eggs in a row and then told Gungho to go fuck themselves. I'll wait for the next one. Even though I have a heavy Kali focus right now and desperately want a second one this many silver eggs is insanity.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
April 01 2015 14:12 GMT
#3246
Just randomly decided to roll once, got Hathor. Sweet!

I'm not sure, though, if she really brings anything to the table that I haven't already got covered. My main teams are LKali, LMeta, DMeta, Athena and an up-and-coming Verdandi team. Does Hathor do anything that these can't?
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
April 01 2015 14:24 GMT
#3247
wow jtype that luck :O I wish I had a hathor. I think L meta is at the top of my list though
Argentina
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 15:34:09
April 01 2015 15:32 GMT
#3248
Yeah I think I'm gonna trust Jayme and put all the plus eggs on my LMeta next. Considering I already have a +297 LKali as a sub on my LMeta team, and they both sub for each other, it seems like a decent choice.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 18:36:52
April 01 2015 18:32 GMT
#3249
I'm not a fan of LMeta, as she is a great farming lead that can't really do challenge, and is a subpar sub whose active doesn't offer enough (2 turn bind recover just doesn't cut it against most bind now). If you don't have a ton of choices then go for it though

I'd prob + the new Hathar as she is much higher ceiling.

Yolo roll once, shardron... at least a +
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
April 01 2015 18:52 GMT
#3250
On April 02 2015 03:32 ragz_gt wrote:
I'm not a fan of LMeta, as she is a great farming lead that can't really do challenge, and is a subpar sub whose active doesn't offer enough (2 turn bind recover just doesn't cut it against most bind now). If you don't have a ton of choices then go for it though

I'd prob + the new Hathar as she is much higher ceiling.

Yolo roll once, shardron... at least a +


What's your preferred sub to deal with binds then if you consider LMeta to be subpar?
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
April 01 2015 19:00 GMT
#3251
Ammy pretty good bind clear hue.
Never Knows Best.
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
April 01 2015 19:29 GMT
#3252
L meta seems like THE bind clear sub. she's got the row hearts awoken skill and the active skill and godlike RCV. besides her I'd say either isis or awoken ceres? I wish I had one of those
Argentina
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
April 01 2015 19:44 GMT
#3253
Ammy yeah, otherwise Weejas or even awoken Ceres.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 20:19:58
April 01 2015 20:19 GMT
#3254
But what does Hathor offer that LKali doesn't? As a lead, I mean. Sure she's got the tankiness, but I would only really use a colour-combo lead for difficult descends (especially the No-RCV ones) and LKali is great for that.

And for general farming, grinding and easier stuff, LMeta is much more easy-mode.

edit- I should note that I'm not trying to put Hathor down; I'm genuinely interested in knowing whether she's worth focusing on or not.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-01 20:54:30
April 01 2015 20:42 GMT
#3255
hathor is much more easier to active than hikari, has great stall ability, 40k hp with enough + can tank most descends, and a better sub pool. hikari sub is really restricted... Obviously if you have a good hikari team and can use hikari well enough then she is much better. If you intend to not use hathor as leader then there is no sense to + her. On the other hand, you never see lmeta as sub on high end team anymore, and you can always farm without +

it's not as much as I feel hathor is a great + candidate as that lmeta is not. If you have a top tier sub for hikali, like fuma SQ or another kali, then + that first.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
jinyung2
Profile Joined November 2014
Luxembourg1455 Posts
April 01 2015 21:00 GMT
#3256
On April 02 2015 05:19 jtype wrote:
But what does Hathor offer that LKali doesn't? As a lead, I mean. Sure she's got the tankiness, but I would only really use a colour-combo lead for difficult descends (especially the No-RCV ones) and LKali is great for that.

And for general farming, grinding and easier stuff, LMeta is much more easy-mode.

edit- I should note that I'm not trying to put Hathor down; I'm genuinely interested in knowing whether she's worth focusing on or not.

I'd say Hathor is just all around good. Fat HP and great RCV (without plus egg investments, amplified further with) due to leader skill, 5 color including hearts means you can activate her leader skill on like 96% of random boards, good damage with the amount of light OE hathor teams usually have, amplified further if you use sub with TPAs. Not as much damage as LKali, but more safe and less error prone. Would probably excel in longer floor dungeons maybe?
Argentina
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
April 01 2015 22:26 GMT
#3257
lkali has substantially more damage. 2prongs look cool.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-02 00:09:51
April 01 2015 23:53 GMT
#3258
On April 02 2015 03:32 ragz_gt wrote:
I'm not a fan of LMeta, as she is a great farming lead that can't really do challenge, and is a subpar sub whose active doesn't offer enough (2 turn bind recover just doesn't cut it against most bind now). If you don't have a ton of choices then go for it though

I'd prob + the new Hathar as she is much higher ceiling.

Yolo roll once, shardron... at least a +



.... I just did this last level 10 dungeons with an lmeta team. You aren't doing anything without a max skilled Sandalphon, sure, but I assure you that L Meta is fully capable of clearing just about anything in the game. She's also one of best bind clearing subs in the game, especially for l kali. Her bind resistance means that if you save hearts you clear any and all binds you'll ever get hit with if you prep and her active is up every 6 Turns.

There are many creatures you can waste a 297 on but l meta is simply not one of them. If you run L Kali in particular she's amazing.

Also she farms alt dungeons and other content casually well. You're probably the first person I've seen ever call l meta a subpar sub

Granted I put a lot of effort into making Lmeta clear everything but she can do it.

This means more on NA than JP though. JP just has more options and such. There aren't alot of options better than l meta to function as your water portion for kali active in NA though. Ceres is a wasted color and Metatron has better awakenings than Isis.

I also see no point in using hathor if you have a kali. If your dungeon ceiling is your concern L Kali can do everything that Hathor can and some things that she'd struggle with. This is even more evident when you take into account that kali has an ult.

My opinion anyway.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
trifecta
Profile Joined April 2010
United States6795 Posts
April 02 2015 01:09 GMT
#3259
On April 02 2015 08:53 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 02 2015 03:32 ragz_gt wrote:
I'm not a fan of LMeta, as she is a great farming lead that can't really do challenge, and is a subpar sub whose active doesn't offer enough (2 turn bind recover just doesn't cut it against most bind now). If you don't have a ton of choices then go for it though

I'd prob + the new Hathar as she is much higher ceiling.

Yolo roll once, shardron... at least a +



.... I just did this last level 10 dungeons with an lmeta team. You aren't doing anything without a max skilled Sandalphon, sure, but I assure you that L Meta is fully capable of clearing just about anything in the game. She's also one of best bind clearing subs in the game, especially for l kali. Her bind resistance means that if you save hearts you clear any and all binds you'll ever get hit with if you prep and her active is up every 6 Turns.

There are many creatures you can waste a 297 on but l meta is simply not one of them. If you run L Kali in particular she's amazing.

Also she farms alt dungeons and other content casually well. You're probably the first person I've seen ever call l meta a subpar sub

Granted I put a lot of effort into making Lmeta clear everything but she can do it.

This means more on NA than JP though. JP just has more options and such. There aren't alot of options better than l meta to function as your water portion for kali active in NA though. Ceres is a wasted color and Metatron has better awakenings than Isis.

I also see no point in using hathor if you have a kali. If your dungeon ceiling is your concern L Kali can do everything that Hathor can and some things that she'd struggle with. This is even more evident when you take into account that kali has an ult.

My opinion anyway.


what kind of lkali lineups can do sandalphon mythical? want to pick up sandalphon(s) when it comes around.
Spoticus
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia25 Posts
April 02 2015 02:41 GMT
#3260
So after rerolling a lot waiting for the godfest I actually missed the start yesterday. Got Hathor though first try today, then Zhuge Liang and Sonia on the next two rem rolls. I have been running Hathor as leader so far because of the cost but would appreciate experienced opinions on who to go with from here.
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