On May 25 2013 10:02 tadL wrote: Just don't buy it and you are fine. As no one is forced to use it I don't see a problem.
My theory about this wired kinect always only shit is: Some intelligent people at the CIA found out that most terrorists playing Xbox. So they forced MS to help them building up a better Spy network with this thing. Because it sucks to get the latest information of CNN right?
But there is a good thing, if you now pay to have sex and the police gets in you don't need a videocamera to say "Hey its a porn movie! Its legal get the fuck out". Now you can just point at the Xbox or even get a sticker on your House door "XboX one installed" and you will never ever have trouble.
Whats wrong with paying for sex?
OT: I just see no future for this kind of console. Always online, expensive games, data mining and maybe even not that cheap. An inexpensive media PC would just do the same.
The kinect like this is a future. But only if you can control what it does. If you can't even turn it off then it is very bad. Hopefully software for it will be for PC as it were for previous version.
"For example, achievements may be tied to viewers performing specific actions while they watch a show. The system can make sure the user is simply in the room while it plays, or it can tell the user to hold up a specific product. The camera would then scan the item held up and reward the user with an achievement."
LOL
The most outrageous form of privacy invasion and Gaming/TV DRM I've ever seen.
I imagine stuff like screaming company slogans while the commercials for them run and stuff like that.
"For example, achievements may be tied to viewers performing specific actions while they watch a show. The system can make sure the user is simply in the room while it plays, or it can tell the user to hold up a specific product. The camera would then scan the item held up and reward the user with an achievement."
LOL
The most outrageous form of privacy invasion and Gaming/TV DRM I've ever seen.
I imagine stuff like screaming company slogans while the commercials for them run and stuff like that.
Well can't say i'm suprised . Though i highly doubt either MS or Sony will implement this anywhere outside the US . There's no way stuff like that would get through the courts here.
Also it's a bit differen than what i meant . More like you watch a McDonalds commercial and you screaming "I'm loving it" gives you an archivement and maybe cupons.
Sonys is more like scream to make commercials go away. Which is worse i don't really know.
mmhh we will see how pc specs vs game requirements will develop for newgen games. but if you dont need a 1000$ rig to run em i so no reason to get a console. right now you can built great gaming pcs for like 500$, which you can use as a media center and all kinds of stuff.
for the xbox one... well stupid name, terrible reveal , kinect surveillance... outside of the US that thing will flop so hard.. (for ms standarts ofc).
even if i got a free one i wouldnt keep it. also i really think that kinect "always watching you" thing might be huge trouble for them in germany. IF they plan to force it on their users they will have to change that for us, now way a company can get through with something like that over here.
On May 26 2013 01:20 Saumure wrote: As an engineer, I am pretty happy they made a new kinect, hoping it will be at least as or more awesome than the first one
what you mean by awesome? think overall technology brought up way more awesome stuff to the mainstream in recent years. and as a game input it pretty much failed way too much to count as more then a gimmick for those dancing games.
ofc its good that they work on making it work more which is what theyre supposed to do. but other then that i dont see much to be excited about.
I can't believe they're forcing people to use this shit.
That's not the Xbox One...
You may notice that it is a Kinect.
That is mandatory to use with your Xbox One.
Yes, a kinect will be mandatory to use the Xbox One, However, that is not the kinect that will be required. That is a very very old kinect that is nowhere at close to as good as the Kinect 2.0.
I can't believe they're forcing people to use this shit.
That's not the Xbox One...
You may notice that it is a Kinect.
That is mandatory to use with your Xbox One.
I wonder how or IF they're going to make it so the things said in the TV shows won't activate the voice commands thing. They released kinect for 360 with this glaring problem, I imagine they'll do something about it in Xbox One. With some luck, it won't dumb down the functionality. Maybe voice recognition for the commands, but then the potential problem is that someone on a TV show may have a voice similar to any given person... also my voice's tone changes depending on how pissed I am about things.
I can't believe they're forcing people to use this shit.
That's not the Xbox One...
You may notice that it is a Kinect.
That is mandatory to use with your Xbox One.
Yes, a kinect will be mandatory to use the Xbox One, However, that is not the kinect that will be required. That is a very very old kinect that is nowhere at close to as good as the Kinect 2.0.
My concern is that I don't want or need a Kinect, so why do I have to buy it? As far as gaming goes, the Kinect has only ever managed to do gimmicks.
I can't believe they're forcing people to use this shit.
That's not the Xbox One...
You may notice that it is a Kinect.
That is mandatory to use with your Xbox One.
Yes, a kinect will be mandatory to use the Xbox One, However, that is not the kinect that will be required. That is a very very old kinect that is nowhere at close to as good as the Kinect 2.0.
Alright, propose a system then that would stop a Kinect from using the voices from speakers as commands.
It's an inherent issue with something like this.
This is just icing though. Them forcing me to use a kinect at all times and using the kinect to monitor my heartbeat and my facial emotions and leaving the microphone on at all times even when powdered down and them reserving the right to share whatever information they gather with third parties is disgusting. As much as I love Halo, I love my privacy even more. I'm not going to spend $600 for a console and hundreds of dollars for games and controllers just to have a camera spy on me when I'm playing games to make sure too many people aren't enjoying content so they can force me to pay more or to spy on what can of soda I'm holding while watching the Super Bowl so they can give me a T.V. achievement. I don't appreciate the idea of it "analyzing" my facial expressions so it can target ads at me, worst of all.
On May 26 2013 01:20 Saumure wrote: As an engineer, I am pretty happy they made a new kinect, hoping it will be at least as or more awesome than the first one
I've had some university colleagues working on some very cool kinect projects. If it's truly "so much better" as they say it will be really cool to see what happens!
On May 26 2013 01:20 Saumure wrote: As an engineer, I am pretty happy they made a new kinect, hoping it will be at least as or more awesome than the first one
I've had some university colleagues working on some very cool kinect projects. If it's truly "so much better" as they say it will be really cool to see what happens!
You can't possibly be serious. How could anyone be positive about the kinect-voyeur-cam.
On May 26 2013 01:20 Saumure wrote: As an engineer, I am pretty happy they made a new kinect, hoping it will be at least as or more awesome than the first one
I've had some university colleagues working on some very cool kinect projects. If it's truly "so much better" as they say it will be really cool to see what happens!
You can't possibly be serious. How could anyone be positive about the kinect-voyeur-cam.
I do think Kinect can be used for cool things ( was even shown) . If and thats a big if it wasn't directly connected to a machine that needs to check-in to a company server every 24hours and sends collected Data to it that the company can directly sell or flat out give to just about anyone they wish.
On May 26 2013 01:20 Saumure wrote: As an engineer, I am pretty happy they made a new kinect, hoping it will be at least as or more awesome than the first one
I've had some university colleagues working on some very cool kinect projects. If it's truly "so much better" as they say it will be really cool to see what happens!
You can't possibly be serious. How could anyone be positive about the kinect-voyeur-cam.
I do think Kinect can be used for cool things . IF and thats a big if it wasn't directly connected to a machine that needs to check-in to a company server every 24hours and sends collected Data to it that the company can directly sell or flat out give to just about anyone they wish.
Yeah I agree.
I know I sound like a hater a lot in this thread but don't take that the wrong way. I was the first on the hype train when the Kinect started to be fleshed out. I did and still do think it's a fantastic idea and I still have fantasies of what can come out of technology like it. But like you said in your post, it's being taken way too far here in terms of privacy.
I want my console to be a video game console. I don't want features like connecting to my cable box, and I definitely do not want it to be required that I be connected to the internet.
If internet connectivity is required to play single player games, I will not be purchasing one.
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