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Onlinejaguar
Profile Joined April 2010
Australia2823 Posts
April 25 2013 09:10 GMT
#21
Microsoft will do whatever they can to try and make the consumers swallow the always online pill. Sad part is the majority of people wont care enough to object and still buy the thing anyway.
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 09:15:47
April 25 2013 09:12 GMT
#22
On April 25 2013 18:10 Onlinejaguar wrote:
Microsoft will do whatever they can to try and make the consumers swallow the always online pill. Sad part is the majority of people wont care enough to object and still buy the thing anyway.


All we need to convince people is one week-long server breakdown which turns millions of new $500 Xboxes into bricks.
HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
April 25 2013 09:16 GMT
#23
New Unreal engine around the corner, time for new consoles. Probably the same as the new playstation, just with the grafics from the other manufacturer.
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
April 25 2013 09:23 GMT
#24
On April 25 2013 18:10 Onlinejaguar wrote:
Microsoft will do whatever they can to try and make the consumers swallow the always online pill. Sad part is the majority of people wont care enough to object and still buy the thing anyway.

Haha, I think Microsoft knows that we gamers are incredibly immature people. We always boycott over the most unjust decisions by a gaming company but then give into the temptation when all of our friends start playing.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
April 25 2013 09:24 GMT
#25
Nothing good ever comes when you try to change up a working formula. This PS4 social things are silly and the Xbox always online and apparently able to do many of the same things is also silly. The Kinect is a nice side peripheral but it shouldn't be front and center in the next console. Consoles as a whole have the advantage of being a better (my opinion) way to play games of most genres and risking that for some social features no one asked for strikes me as going down the same road as the Wii U which isn't doing to well lately.

All they really need to do is upgrade the graphics because after 7 years they have started to get a little dated and maybe some improvements to Xbox Live and they would be all set for the next 7 years.
Elwar
Profile Joined August 2010
953 Posts
April 25 2013 09:37 GMT
#26
I hope all the rumours are wrong and its a) powerful, b) doesn't block used games (renting, swapping with friends etc.) and c) doesn't require internet to play new games.


Almost everything I've heard is bad, but why would MS release a much weaker system than their competitor, and put anti-consumer DRM in UNLESS they were going to get exclusive support from major publishers in exchange.
paralleluniverse
Profile Joined July 2010
4065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 09:41:49
April 25 2013 09:41 GMT
#27
Starcraft 2 is effectively always online, yet no one complains about it anymore.

I think people with internet will come to realize that always online makes for a better gaming experience and then they'll stop complaining. People with no internet or bad internet will either not buy it or buy a PS4.
Deleted User 124618
Profile Joined November 2010
1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 09:51:10
April 25 2013 09:42 GMT
#28
On April 25 2013 18:41 paralleluniverse wrote:
Starcraft 2 is effectively always online, yet no one complains about it anymore.

I think people with internet will come to realize that always online makes for a better gaming experience and then they'll stop complaining. People with not internet or bad internet will either no buy it or buy a PS4.


Because if SC2 servers are down I can switch into another game. SC2 going down doesn't switch off my whole PC.

People say "easy to use, can just sit down and play" is the biggest strength of console. What will happen to consoles if "can just sit down and play" -part is taken away due to unstable connections?
HotShizz
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
France710 Posts
April 25 2013 09:45 GMT
#29
yeah, I have owned the original xbox and the 360, but I certainly won't be buying this if it has the kind of retarded DRM that doesn't allow me to play used games. I purchase very few games brand new, (mostly rockstar games actually) the rest of them, the experience isn't worth 60 dollars to me, so if I choose to experience something, its usually 20 bucks or less or not at all. I don't need these games, so I don't waste my money on them. Making it so I cannot play used games would mean I would be buying the system for, what a dozen games across the generation that actually ensnare me enough for me to find it worth 60 bucks? It won't be worth me buying the system, and certainly not worth me maintaining a gold account. I'll just stick to PC only. I guess we'll see, but I am ready to be disappointed.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8156 Posts
April 25 2013 09:53 GMT
#30
On April 25 2013 18:42 Greentellon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 18:41 paralleluniverse wrote:
Starcraft 2 is effectively always online, yet no one complains about it anymore.

I think people with internet will come to realize that always online makes for a better gaming experience and then they'll stop complaining. People with not internet or bad internet will either no buy it or buy a PS4.


Because if SC2 servers are down I can switch into another game. SC2 going down doesn't switch off my whole PC.


Not to mention games like sc2, dota, lol, world of tanks, etc are all games where the main focus is online multiplayer. If the servers are down in dota 2, it doesn't matter if I could play it offline, I wont. Because it'd be friggin boring. You know what I do when my internet is down? I play a singleplayer game.
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
April 25 2013 10:09 GMT
#31
A few days ago there was a "leak" that announced that online-only will not come with the new xbox and that it will be backwards compatible by hardware (not just crappy emulation) with the 360 games.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
April 25 2013 10:19 GMT
#32
The only exciting thing about a new generation of consoles is that they will come a bit closer to pushing PCs to what they should have been doing. Crysis from 2007 was more sophisticated than any game released for the consoles so far, imagine what PC games could be like if piracy hadn't made them a far less attractive option then consoles for game producers.
Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 12:59:37
April 25 2013 12:56 GMT
#33
On April 25 2013 18:41 paralleluniverse wrote:
Starcraft 2 is effectively always online, yet no one complains about it anymore.

I think people with internet will come to realize that always online makes for a better gaming experience and then they'll stop complaining. People with no internet or bad internet will either not buy it or buy a PS4.


I think you're wrong. If I remember right Starcraft 2 has an offline mode in which you can play the campaign just fine. All you have to done is have logged in once to show you own the game. Only for multiplayer and features like achievements do you need an internet connection.

How does being forced to have an internet connection make for a better experience? What logic is that? If I want my "experience" online I can log on, if I don't want my experience online I don't. Taking away that choice is not going to enhance my experience, it's going to limit it.

What worries me is that it's obvious that Microsoft should've defused this rumor a long time ago because it dominates any and all conversations about the new xbox. The fact they haven't yet certainly makes it very plausible.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
April 25 2013 13:15 GMT
#34
What qualifies as a "cable box" and what if I don't have one? >_>
Blacktion
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1148 Posts
April 25 2013 13:15 GMT
#35
On April 25 2013 21:56 Martijn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 18:41 paralleluniverse wrote:
Starcraft 2 is effectively always online, yet no one complains about it anymore.

I think people with internet will come to realize that always online makes for a better gaming experience and then they'll stop complaining. People with no internet or bad internet will either not buy it or buy a PS4.


I think you're wrong. If I remember right Starcraft 2 has an offline mode in which you can play the campaign just fine. All you have to done is have logged in once to show you own the game. Only for multiplayer and features like achievements do you need an internet connection.

How does being forced to have an internet connection make for a better experience? What logic is that? If I want my "experience" online I can log on, if I don't want my experience online I don't. Taking away that choice is not going to enhance my experience, it's going to limit it.

What worries me is that it's obvious that Microsoft should've defused this rumor a long time ago because it dominates any and all conversations about the new xbox. The fact they haven't yet certainly makes it very plausible.

I dont know if things have changed with HotS, but in Wings i played the campaign just fine for 2 weeks without an internet connection, only thing that was different was no achievements.
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Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
April 25 2013 13:27 GMT
#36
On April 25 2013 22:15 Blacktion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2013 21:56 Martijn wrote:
On April 25 2013 18:41 paralleluniverse wrote:
Starcraft 2 is effectively always online, yet no one complains about it anymore.

I think people with internet will come to realize that always online makes for a better gaming experience and then they'll stop complaining. People with no internet or bad internet will either not buy it or buy a PS4.


I think you're wrong. If I remember right Starcraft 2 has an offline mode in which you can play the campaign just fine. All you have to done is have logged in once to show you own the game. Only for multiplayer and features like achievements do you need an internet connection.

How does being forced to have an internet connection make for a better experience? What logic is that? If I want my "experience" online I can log on, if I don't want my experience online I don't. Taking away that choice is not going to enhance my experience, it's going to limit it.

What worries me is that it's obvious that Microsoft should've defused this rumor a long time ago because it dominates any and all conversations about the new xbox. The fact they haven't yet certainly makes it very plausible.

I dont know if things have changed with HotS, but in Wings i played the campaign just fine for 2 weeks without an internet connection, only thing that was different was no achievements.


Yeah, I'm not sure about HotS either. At least with Wings it was there and there was no always online requirement.
http://www.glhf.tv fighting! Former WesternWolves & LowLandLions operations manager.
Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 13:39:31
April 25 2013 13:34 GMT
#37
If the always on requirement is real then there's no chance I'll pick one up. If the earlier claims of always on kinect are true, I'll be wary even being near one.
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Skaminator
Profile Joined October 2011
112 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-25 13:38:37
April 25 2013 13:37 GMT
#38
The only upperhand console had over pc were imho exclusives, but just recently when i was comparing my psx and ps2 to my ps3 collection I came to a conclusion that the last advantage consoles had over pc is pretty much non-existent. And now they limit my choices even further like really..
DenTenker
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States606 Posts
April 25 2013 13:43 GMT
#39
I can't wait for this just to see how much of a step forward the new consoles will be. That said, unless something super amazing comes out of left field, I will not be purchasing it. I've found that I can play the majority of games on my PC and they look better too (generally), so I see no point in picking one up.
If your all in didn't work, you didn't pull the workers.
Barbiero
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Brazil5259 Posts
April 25 2013 13:48 GMT
#40
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I seriously hate whenever someone uses "online = eletricity"

First and foremost, the world does not revolve around the highly developed places. Even in "first world countries" like the US, there are several areas where internet isn't stable at all.

I live in a privileged place of Brazil where we get one of the most stable internets in the country. And by "one of the most", I mean the most reliable. Yet, just yesterday, our ISP have some issues and I could barely load a video properly. The internet was unstable enough that I couldn't play dota2. What I did? I fucking played Roller Coaster Tycoon, Crysis 2, AoE2HD campaign, Bastion... single player games.

Even OUYA, which is a console being developed based on internet downloads, should allow players to play the games offline when possible(like Angry Birds-style).


Anyone who thinks always-online is something good just doesn't understand that there about no ups vs the intense amount of downs. The "ups" are for the companies, not the users.
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