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Cause remember this game was delayed for well over a year and was meant to be the headline game for Xbox Series X... and for nothing.
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Cause remember this game was delayed for well over a year and was meant to be the headline game for Xbox Series X... and for nothing. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7440 Posts
On February 04 2024 08:53 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Guess we'll have to wait and see. Cause it's becoming quite clear the Gamepass strategy isn't working. I think the tweet was deleted. What did it say? EDIT: Nvm | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
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Harris1st
Germany7440 Posts
On February 05 2024 18:20 WombaT wrote: Is Palworld that good or is it one of those decent games that’s just exploded in a lightning in a bottle sense? It's a decent game with some very addictive mechanisms: - The crafting/ base building with (Pal) automation, - The "gotta catch em all" - The "let me just quickly explore this last chest/ tower/ dungeon on the horizon" going on all night forgetting what time it is - The Pal breeding system, min maxing stats Just try it with game pass for almost free, and if you like it, buy it on steam for more options regarding coop/ dedicated servers and stuff. Can't really go wrong here | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46651 Posts
On February 05 2024 20:02 Harris1st wrote: It's a decent game with some very addictive mechanisms: - The crafting/ base building with (Pal) automation, - The "gotta catch em all" - The "let me just quickly explore this last chest/ tower/ dungeon on the horizon" going on all night forgetting what time it is - The Pal breeding system, min maxing stats Just try it with game pass for almost free, and if you like it, buy it on steam for more options regarding coop/ dedicated servers and stuff. Can't really go wrong here On top of this list, I want to add that there are an amazing amount of sliders that can seriously let you customize your exact experience with everything, as opposed to needing to deal with shit you don't like. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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ZerOCoolSC2
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E: Skipped previous posts so this was already mentioned. I don't think Spencer is screwed if the games sent to PS5 are very few and not very often. Gamepass isn't working and they're just not moving units like they want to. Their issue is that the games for console are also available on PC. That eats into a lot of the would be Console exclusives. PS5 wins in that area easily. And then they take 2-3 years to release their exclusives to PC. Steam also eats into Xbox Console numbers so...yeah. They either figure out a way to get more sales by adding more games (which is their biggest issue (and gamepass on day 1)) or they work out a deal with Sony. I don't think Spencer is screwed, but Xbox console could be. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7440 Posts
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On February 06 2024 16:38 Harris1st wrote: What do you mean Gamepass isn't working? Most people I know that are even remotely connected to gaming have the Gamepass abo for PC. Though none of these have a Xbox while some of them have a PS4/ PS5 as well. That's the point. They're not pushing consoles. People with gamepass probably have a PC and just play on that with controller. Why get a console? People who have the console either don't have a gaming computer or just want the console to keep the collection going. But gamepass isn't moving consoles. And neither are their non-existent console exclusives because you can just get them on PC day 1. PS+ isn't moving consoles either to be fair. It's the console exclusives not available elsewhere (or at least 6-12 months). So people are buying PS5's for the games. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7440 Posts
On February 06 2024 22:59 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: That's the point. They're not pushing consoles. People with gamepass probably have a PC and just play on that with controller. Why get a console? People who have the console either don't have a gaming computer or just want the console to keep the collection going. But gamepass isn't moving consoles. And neither are their non-existent console exclusives because you can just get them on PC day 1. PS+ isn't moving consoles either to be fair. It's the console exclusives not available elsewhere (or at least 6-12 months). So people are buying PS5's for the games. Ok I see. Got me confused there for a moment  I can't speak for the general population though. I am a PC gamer, always been and I obviously surround myself with fellow PC gamers. And yes, if you are like me, having a Xbox makes 0 sense while having a PS5 gives you access to the exklusives. Or if you are more family/ party play oriented you get a switch. So yeah, it's hard to argument for an Xbox right now I guess | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On February 07 2024 18:51 Harris1st wrote: Ok I see. Got me confused there for a moment I can't speak for the general population though. I am a PC gamer, always been and I obviously surround myself with fellow PC gamers. And yes, if you are like me, having a Xbox makes 0 sense while having a PS5 gives you access to the exklusives. Or if you are more family/ party play oriented you get a switch. So yeah, it's hard to argument for an Xbox right now I guess It's always been a hard argument for Xbox since the 360 or even One to be honest. They had some amazing games (Mass Effect, Gears of War, Fable) but those games aren't going to push consoles. Just like Starfield was supposed to do but didn't. Because you could get it on PC. I think the only way Xbox remains in the conversation is to drop day 1 Gamepass for console exclusives. Just do what Sony does and save PC release 6 months to a year later. And just let people bitch. But if they don't find something, we're going to be at the mercy of Sony charging 100$ for games soon because they're the only show in town. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
On February 08 2024 00:31 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: It's always been a hard argument for Xbox since the 360 or even One to be honest. They had some amazing games (Mass Effect, Gears of War, Fable) but those games aren't going to push consoles. Just like Starfield was supposed to do but didn't. Because you could get it on PC. I think the only way Xbox remains in the conversation is to drop day 1 Gamepass for console exclusives. Just do what Sony does and save PC release 6 months to a year later. And just let people bitch. But if they don't find something, we're going to be at the mercy of Sony charging 100$ for games soon because they're the only show in town. Nintendo and valve aren’t going anywhere. Forcing people to pc is probably an overall win for Microsoft anyhow. MS discontinuing the Xbox checks out for me. The needle hasn’t really moved on computer hardware recently, so I wouldn’t expect a new console in say the next 5 years anyways. By then, gpu prices may have stabilized and there’s more incentive to go pc gaming route. Seems like a good time to get out. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9071 Posts
On February 08 2024 00:51 emperorchampion wrote: Nintendo and valve aren’t going anywhere. Forcing people to pc is probably an overall win for Microsoft anyhow. MS discontinuing the Xbox checks out for me. The needle hasn’t really moved on computer hardware recently, so I wouldn’t expect a new console in say the next 5 years anyways. By then, gpu prices may have stabilized and there’s more incentive to go pc gaming route. Seems like a good time to get out. Those are still really niche markets. I'm talking true consoles and not handhelds. There's also VR to think about, so I don't know. I'm just positive that Xbox is done after this generation and they'll be looking to Sony to buy their studios at a loss. | ||
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Cricketer12
United States14003 Posts
On February 08 2024 00:31 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: It's always been a hard argument for Xbox since the 360 or even One to be honest. They had some amazing games (Mass Effect, Gears of War, Fable) but those games aren't going to push consoles. Just like Starfield was supposed to do but didn't. Because you could get it on PC. I think the only way Xbox remains in the conversation is to drop day 1 Gamepass for console exclusives. Just do what Sony does and save PC release 6 months to a year later. And just let people bitch. But if they don't find something, we're going to be at the mercy of Sony charging 100$ for games soon because they're the only show in town. Starfield didn't push console sales because it wasn't a good enough game to do so. | ||
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Harris1st
Germany7440 Posts
On February 08 2024 01:35 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Those are still really niche markets. I'm talking true consoles and not handhelds. There's also VR to think about, so I don't know. I'm just positive that Xbox is done after this generation and they'll be looking to Sony to buy their studios at a loss. A simple plug and play VR system with awesome games/ known IPs could still sell decent IMO. Sony is talking about a PS5 Pro (no details yet) but I imagine this is at least one targeted market. Maybe Xbox should go more towards easy to set up / comparable cheap mini-PCs instead of trying what they do know and go toe to toe with Sony? | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27477 Posts
On February 08 2024 18:12 Harris1st wrote: A simple plug and play VR system with awesome games/ known IPs could still sell decent IMO. Sony is talking about a PS5 Pro (no details yet) but I imagine this is at least one targeted market. Maybe Xbox should go more towards easy to set up / comparable cheap mini-PCs instead of trying what they do know and go toe to toe with Sony? I dunno I think Microsoft’s approach makes sense, as to how they can make the economics of it works well that’s another thing. Decent library via Game Pass, or the store if one desires to actually buy, have a set-and-forget console as a way to access for one group of consumers, do it via PC for those so inclined, and others can do so via Cloud on their other devices. The general ecosystem works very well for me anyway, but life circumstances massively limit my proper gaming time, so it’s quite a personal thing. I can just dip in and out of games, when I have more free time than expected, there’s always something else on Game Pass to try. When kiddo’s over I can introduce him to other genres on my Xbox, see how he likes it, without spending 60 quid on a gamble. If it’s a multiplayer game I can DL it on the Xbox and my PC and migrate to the latter. Me and the kiddo had a blast giving the Quake remasters a go in co-op together, although he now shares my saltiness that old-school shooters are less popular :p That’s not really something I could have done in previous gaming epochs. And it’s also not something I can fully replicate if I was in the PlayStation ecosystem. I feel from following various gaming pages on Facebook etc that hardcore gamers (naturally) rather dominate the conversation and perception, but it’s a fully mainstream hobby now and plenty of folks have different habits. I think Microsoft’s broad trajectory and strategy is kinda on the money, but it’s not my money at the end of the day, so if they can’t make the sums add up that another thing. But I don’t think the ‘console wars’ way of doing things makes all that much sense nowadays given how things are moving. Music is a streaming world, film and television too. Like the only PS games Ive absolutely been dying to play in recent times were the FF7 remake and Bloodbourne, and I’ve sated those urges with gaming evenings over at my friend’s and a temp borrowing of his console | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
edit: There it is: | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
Next gen Xbox console under development. I.e. a Pro version basically. Possible handheld as well? Fans are also worried about the future of Xbox hardware, and Microsoft is teasing a next-gen console to help reassure them. “There’s some exciting stuff coming out in hardware that we’re going to share this holiday, and we’re also invested in the next-generation road map,” says Xbox president Sarah Bond on the Xbox podcast. “What we’re really focused on there is delivering the largest technical leap that you will have ever seen in a hardware generation.” | ||
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