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On April 10 2013 06:07 Glurkenspurk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 05:23 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Out of curiousity, why are you guys even bothering to buy the new version? 20 bucks for a slight bit of additional support and probably not that noticable graphics doesn't seem like a good deal. Maybe 5 or 10, but 20 is steep as hell.
It's super easy to download this illegally with a crack. I don't even hesitate with this, as I owned the original and expansion way back in the day, so I feel pretty okay doing it since I already paid the developer money.
My friends and I just play this over game ranger (just had a game this weekend!).
Age of Forgotten Empires is also pretty sweet (It's an unofficial expansion). My friend and a bunch of his friends bought it and I decided to play with them. Anyway we're all disappointed as hell. I was expecting a good multiplayer ui for finding games and better compatibility changes. What did we get? No graphics options and constant crashing.
You sir are an angry person. You need to have patience.
With customer service, and game development.
Yea, they rushed it a bit, but seriously, man? Caps lock raging? Cmon. Its 20$. Thats like 2 hours work with a shitty job.
Thats going to see the movies kind of price. If not less.
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On April 10 2013 07:33 Malpractice.248 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 06:07 Glurkenspurk wrote:On April 10 2013 05:23 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Out of curiousity, why are you guys even bothering to buy the new version? 20 bucks for a slight bit of additional support and probably not that noticable graphics doesn't seem like a good deal. Maybe 5 or 10, but 20 is steep as hell.
It's super easy to download this illegally with a crack. I don't even hesitate with this, as I owned the original and expansion way back in the day, so I feel pretty okay doing it since I already paid the developer money.
My friends and I just play this over game ranger (just had a game this weekend!).
Age of Forgotten Empires is also pretty sweet (It's an unofficial expansion). My friend and a bunch of his friends bought it and I decided to play with them. Anyway we're all disappointed as hell. I was expecting a good multiplayer ui for finding games and better compatibility changes. What did we get? No graphics options and constant crashing. You sir are an angry person. You need to have patience. With customer service, and game development. Yea, they rushed it a bit, but seriously, man? Caps lock raging? Cmon. Its 20$. Thats like 2 hours work with a shitty job. Thats going to see the movies kind of price. If not less.
So I should accept that I spent money on a broken product because eventually it might stop being shit?
I'm voting with my wallet. And l'm not letting them release a broken mess and take my money.
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the remake allready failed.
people that still play the original online will not wait until they fix sync, crashes, lags and matchmaking options.
They will go back to their working platforms.
Chance for community reunion is missed.
Also, i asked steam to not refund me the money, but to put it on my steam account and they just did it within 24 hours without even bothering me.
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Ok anger and stuff aside;
Since I'm not a hardcore player at all, I'm having tons of fun playing with my friends which I hadn't had contact in years. AoE2 was our commonplace during our childhood, and it's amazing to relive that(and destroy them now that I actually know how to play RTS and they don't =d)
I'm yet to get out of sync as well, maybe this only happens with increased distances or increased game length? My games have been sub 1hr and only 1v1 so far, so idk.
Also, the workshop is awesome.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=137279302
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=137787926
These two replace all terrain(first one), trees and mines(second one) with updated models. While I do believe this should be included on the original AoE2HD instead of having someone do it via workshop, I also think it was important to leave the game with the original feel and let the community create a mod the way they wanted.
The workshop support is great, because it lets me download and install mods so freaking easily.
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Also someone was able to create a workshop mod that allows 1k pop limit, but playing with a person with that while you don't have it will cause out of sync.
It's only a matter of time until someone releases AoFE into the workshop, easily available.
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On April 10 2013 05:23 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Out of curiousity, why are you guys even bothering to buy the new version?
AoE2 with Steam support
Works on HD screens and Windows 7 without the need of "unofficial hacks".
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On April 10 2013 13:02 WindWolf wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 05:23 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Out of curiousity, why are you guys even bothering to buy the new version? AoE2 with Steam support Works on HD screens and Windows 7 without the need of "unofficial hacks".
I don't need hacks....just run it at the lower resolutions and do the same thing to fix colors as BW, put screen resolution screen under the game.
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On April 10 2013 09:17 LaNague wrote:
Also, i asked steam to not refund me the money, but to put it on my steam account and they just did it within 24 hours without even bothering me.
Good to know if it happens again.
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I will ask this again? Has anyone tried to verify the game's cache? I'm not guaranteeing that it solves the problems, but when I did have a problem with the game Krater, it did solve the problem for me.
On April 10 2013 13:09 FromShouri wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2013 13:02 WindWolf wrote:On April 10 2013 05:23 BallinWitStalin wrote:
Out of curiousity, why are you guys even bothering to buy the new version? AoE2 with Steam support Works on HD screens and Windows 7 without the need of "unofficial hacks". I don't need hacks....just run it at the lower resolutions and do the same thing to fix colors as BW, put screen resolution screen under the game.
Didn't play BW, so it tells me absolutely nothing.
Even then, how does the other services offers what Steam offers me freely
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This release is a huge disappointment, the improvements they made on the core game are great, but they completely neglected MP. The interface is actually worse than the old (BAD) zone interface and all of the networking compatibility issues are still present , there's a high likelyhood that you'll spend 30 minutes trying to join games, then finally getting into one there's a strong chance that you won't finish it before someone drops/crashes. It's simply not a functional product. Nobody wants to bang their head against a game just to play a multiplayer match for hours on end.
The problem is that they" tested it between 2 offices and it worked great" (basically they knew it was broken and released it anyway) I can't see them being so naive about the most core feature of the product they were re-releasing.
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Ladder and ELO for AoE2HD, http://aoe2stats.com/, is this legit?
What I heard was there was no matchmaking- just a random quick play? More interested in picking this up now.
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On April 12 2013 11:50 AndyJay wrote:Ladder and ELO for AoE2HD, http://aoe2stats.com/, is this legit? What I heard was there was no matchmaking- just a random quick play? More interested in picking this up now.
There is matchmaking. Sorta. I'm yet to get a game using Quick Match, but then I don't wait much for an opponent.
the ELO is legit tho; your global ranking is weighted according to who you play etc. It only applies to 1v1 and 2v2 with 200 pop AFAIK, I'm not entirely sure.
I just wish they'd improve the netcode more so online play is smoother when you're not the host.
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How encompassing are these terrible MP issues? It it ever present or sporadic / based on certain factors?
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Honestly, not unexpected at all for the genre.
I'd say 50%+ of games in this category have massive MP network sync issues on release. Civilization 4 was a big one - took them over a year to fix the issues.
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For a rework I'd plan a development time of at least three quarters and you'd have to have experience in similar development. This new trend of releasing classics anew with advantages and disadvantages is not reasonable. Especially the attitude to promise fixes for issues after release is a plague. Age of Kings was running well in '99.
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i was going to buy this but ive heard so many bad reviews (broken matchmaking, freezing glitches) ? is the matchmaking really this bad? does it take forever to get a match? ive played (or tried to play) AoE Online, the cartoon free version of this and the match making was brutal, sometimes i would search 10+ minutes for a 1v1 match
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On April 13 2013 05:18 LaZeRKiD45 wrote:
i was going to buy this but ive heard so many bad reviews (broken matchmaking, freezing glitches) ? is the matchmaking really this bad? does it take forever to get a match? ive played (or tried to play) AoE Online, the cartoon free version of this and the match making was brutal, sometimes i would search 10+ minutes for a 1v1 match
If you wanna play MP I'd suggest voobly to be honest... I have tested it for a few games after getting my refund from AOE2 HD and it is way better on many level...
1. It doesn't fucking crash
2. So far the lag/fps has been okay
3. You can actually see the rating of the people you're making a game with
4. Works with the old version if you already have it... otherwise you can probably find it... somewhere... for free
5. No region (Steam version is region based... unless you live in Europe or US you wont find many people).
However the level of play is way higher than on steam. I was able to get a lot of victories on steam... I'm getting rolled over by people tagged as noobs on voobly.
That is until the steam version gets fixed. Definetly not worth 20$ right now unless its really nothing for you and you're okay pulling your hair sometimes.
10$ would be such a better price.
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On April 13 2013 05:18 LaZeRKiD45 wrote:
i was going to buy this but ive heard so many bad reviews (broken matchmaking, freezing glitches) ? is the matchmaking really this bad? does it take forever to get a match? ive played (or tried to play) AoE Online, the cartoon free version of this and the match making was brutal, sometimes i would search 10+ minutes for a 1v1 match
You cant and I mean CANT play multiplayer. It will lag really really hard and definitely unplayable.
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Patch Notes for ‘performance build’
Frame rate & performance improvements that increase frame rates up to 50% on low end machines and up to 500% on the high end systems previously experiencing frame rate issues.
Visual fixes:
- Windows DPI scaling no longer zooms the in-game perspective
- Default scroll speed increased
Multiplayer fixes including:
- Quitting a multiplayer game triggers a resignation instead appearing as a ‘drop’
- Private lobbies stay private
- Quick match no longer crashes
- Long Steam usernames no longer cause crash
- Hotkeys for multiplayer are correctly saved
- Lobby now enforces that you only play multiplayer with the same build version
- Visual indications of players in your lobby and in game who have low frame rate
- Better networking verification prior to entering game (prevents getting stuck on the voting screen)
- Performance warning if you have high ping to one other player who isn’t host or if your data is being relayed
- Multiplayer quick match speed defaults to normal
- Quick match has additional map size filter
- Multiplayer Lobby doesn’t lock to a region for displaying games
- Achievements fix: Single player unlocks achievements properly
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On April 18 2013 04:39 SheaR619 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2013 05:18 LaZeRKiD45 wrote:
i was going to buy this but ive heard so many bad reviews (broken matchmaking, freezing glitches) ? is the matchmaking really this bad? does it take forever to get a match? ive played (or tried to play) AoE Online, the cartoon free version of this and the match making was brutal, sometimes i would search 10+ minutes for a 1v1 match You cant and I mean CANT play multiplayer. It will lag really really hard and definitely unplayable.
I've been playing multiplayer just fine.
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On April 18 2013 12:25 OoFuzer wrote:
Patch Notes for ‘performance build’
Frame rate & performance improvements that increase frame rates up to 50% on low end machines and up to 500% on the high end systems previously experiencing frame rate issues.
Visual fixes:
- Windows DPI scaling no longer zooms the in-game perspective
- Default scroll speed increased
Multiplayer fixes including:
- Quitting a multiplayer game triggers a resignation instead appearing as a ‘drop’
- Private lobbies stay private
- Quick match no longer crashes
- Long Steam usernames no longer cause crash
- Hotkeys for multiplayer are correctly saved
- Lobby now enforces that you only play multiplayer with the same build version
- Visual indications of players in your lobby and in game who have low frame rate
- Better networking verification prior to entering game (prevents getting stuck on the voting screen)
- Performance warning if you have high ping to one other player who isn’t host or if your data is being relayed
- Multiplayer quick match speed defaults to normal
- Quick match has additional map size filter
- Multiplayer Lobby doesn’t lock to a region for displaying games
- Achievements fix: Single player unlocks achievements properly
Do you know when the patch is coming live on Steam?
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