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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
June 10 2013 01:56 GMT
#1681
from tugglebutt to harry dresden, the death story.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
June 10 2013 01:56 GMT
#1682
On some occasions withholding information from the viewers can be suspenseful but not here, it's just frustrating. I wish JP wouldn't be so secretive and just reveal his character properly.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51706 Posts
June 10 2013 01:59 GMT
#1683
Brothergub.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 10 2013 02:00 GMT
#1684
this is going to be a 3 hour introduction sooner or later.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 02:12:59
June 10 2013 02:12 GMT
#1685
Yeah, JP is really affecting the flow of the show right here. The first hour was smooth... second hour would be otherwise unbearable without my friend Southern Comfort. Not that I don't respect what he's doing... but as a viewer, the experience simply isn't smooth, and borders on intolerable. I feel like there's a balance that could have been struck, and Jp fell on the side of tediousness.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 10 2013 02:15 GMT
#1686
They have a fantastic way of killing story lines.
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
June 10 2013 02:21 GMT
#1687
On June 10 2013 10:56 Exarl25 wrote:
On some occasions withholding information from the viewers can be suspenseful but not here, it's just frustrating. I wish JP wouldn't be so secretive and just reveal his character properly.

agreed and Neal should reveal all his plot lines and story arcs.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
June 10 2013 02:28 GMT
#1688
This has been the worst episode by far... JP literally killing the show with whatever the hell he is doing.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
DMXD
Profile Joined February 2008
United States4064 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 02:29:22
June 10 2013 02:28 GMT
#1689
geoff's rp so good LOL!!!
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 02:36:21
June 10 2013 02:31 GMT
#1690
So... ideas for new drinking game... I'm thinking with new guy... maybe something to do with using his magic baton.

Damn, Incontrol... that bit with the priest was sick.
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 02:36:29
June 10 2013 02:33 GMT
#1691
On June 10 2013 11:28 Dubzex wrote:
This has been the worst episode by far... JP literally killing the show with whatever the hell he is doing.


the constant tech issues and JP's clear and present infatuation with tudagub-as-wizard with snappy comebacks has combined to probably make this the worst overall episode, but "killing the show"? cease the histrionics please. geoff is putting the stream on his back, as he tends to do, and in terms of pacing this was really unavoidable unless they just wanted to throw the reroll into the party with no questions asked.
Mothra
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1448 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 02:48:46
June 10 2013 02:34 GMT
#1692
On June 10 2013 11:21 Strela wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 10:56 Exarl25 wrote:
On some occasions withholding information from the viewers can be suspenseful but not here, it's just frustrating. I wish JP wouldn't be so secretive and just reveal his character properly.

agreed and Neal should reveal all his plot lines and story arcs.


I do think Neal could give more direction than he has been lately. In the earlier shows there were purposeful things to do each week like retrieving magic items, escorting the caravan, or raiding the goblin cave. Now it seems like there's a lot of dead ends like the empty cave on the island, or uninterested NPCs like the lighthouse keeper and priest in this week's episode. I think it wouldn't hurt to be generous in unimportant matters like letting the priest heal Geoff, or letting JP find a child when he had some mischief in mind, or having the woman take JPs offer for money. The characters don't feel like heroes when every NPC seems indifferent to them.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 10 2013 02:38 GMT
#1693
On June 10 2013 11:34 Mothra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 11:21 Strela wrote:
On June 10 2013 10:56 Exarl25 wrote:
On some occasions withholding information from the viewers can be suspenseful but not here, it's just frustrating. I wish JP wouldn't be so secretive and just reveal his character properly.

agreed and Neal should reveal all his plot lines and story arcs.


I do think Neal could give more direction than he has been lately. In the earlier shows there were purposeful things to do each week like retrieving magic items, escorting the caravan, or raiding the goblin cave. Now it seems like there's a lot of dead ends like the empty cave on the island, or uninterested NPCs like the lighthouse keeper and priest in this week's episode. I think it would be better to be generous in unimportant matters like letting the priest heal instead of quibbling, or letting JP find a child when he had some mischief in mind, to move things along.

I think part of the problem is they are in situations and doing things that make it very hard for the DM to help them out while making it look natural. This is also JP's new introduction so I think he wants it to unfold organically.
swaggasaurusRex
Profile Joined December 2012
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 02:45:21
June 10 2013 02:42 GMT
#1694
On June 10 2013 11:33 TheExile19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 11:28 Dubzex wrote:
This has been the worst episode by far... JP literally killing the show with whatever the hell he is doing.


the constant tech issues and JP's clear and present infatuation with tudagub-as-wizard with snappy comebacks has combined to probably make this the worst overall episode, but "killing the show"? cease the histrionics please. geoff is putting the stream on his back, as he tends to do, and in terms of pacing this was really unavoidable unless they just wanted to throw the reroll into the party with no questions asked.


JP's choice of backstory made the pacing go this way IMO. His character is secretive and antagonistic. Of course there would be a jarring change when integrating a new character, but this is especially painful. I'm just hoping bannon doesn't turn into tudagub with arcane instead of divine spells. I'm hoping as they progress together that things can move along more smoothly.

edit: this seems to be getting a bit better...
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 10 2013 02:44 GMT
#1695
On June 10 2013 11:42 swaggasaurusRex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 11:33 TheExile19 wrote:
On June 10 2013 11:28 Dubzex wrote:
This has been the worst episode by far... JP literally killing the show with whatever the hell he is doing.


the constant tech issues and JP's clear and present infatuation with tudagub-as-wizard with snappy comebacks has combined to probably make this the worst overall episode, but "killing the show"? cease the histrionics please. geoff is putting the stream on his back, as he tends to do, and in terms of pacing this was really unavoidable unless they just wanted to throw the reroll into the party with no questions asked.


JP's choice of backstory made the pacing go this way IMO. His character is secretive and antagonistic. Of course there would be a jarring change when integrating a new character, but this is especially painful. I'm just hoping bannon doesn't turn into tudagub with arcane instead of divine spells. I'm hoping as they progress together that things can move along more smoothly.

It would be a bit disappointing if he made a character that was essentially the same but with different powers and no drinking.
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
June 10 2013 02:45 GMT
#1696
On June 10 2013 11:38 Serpico wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 11:34 Mothra wrote:
On June 10 2013 11:21 Strela wrote:
On June 10 2013 10:56 Exarl25 wrote:
On some occasions withholding information from the viewers can be suspenseful but not here, it's just frustrating. I wish JP wouldn't be so secretive and just reveal his character properly.

agreed and Neal should reveal all his plot lines and story arcs.


I do think Neal could give more direction than he has been lately. In the earlier shows there were purposeful things to do each week like retrieving magic items, escorting the caravan, or raiding the goblin cave. Now it seems like there's a lot of dead ends like the empty cave on the island, or uninterested NPCs like the lighthouse keeper and priest in this week's episode. I think it would be better to be generous in unimportant matters like letting the priest heal instead of quibbling, or letting JP find a child when he had some mischief in mind, to move things along.

I think part of the problem is they are in situations and doing things that make it very hard for the DM to help them out while making it look natural. This is also JP's new introduction so I think he wants it to unfold organically.

Agreed, clearly not neal's fault. In actual fact not anyone's fault, even though JP sucked (no offense) it's not anyone's fault'. I just feel like a tiny bit of metagaming on JP's part would have been really worthwhile for the viewers (not that what JP is doing isn't legitimate and in full RP, I just think for think for the benefit of the show, a little metagaming would be AMAZINGLY beneficial (would have saved lierally 2 hours with virtually no loss to relevant back story).
swaggasaurusRex
Profile Joined December 2012
9 Posts
June 10 2013 02:48 GMT
#1697
+ Show Spoiler +
Wizard Commander Riker rides again!
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
June 10 2013 02:52 GMT
#1698
spoilers really aren't required, anyone that steps in here knows what they are getting in for. otherwise, fuck 'em.
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
June 10 2013 03:07 GMT
#1699
Neal is literally carrying this show on his back.
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
June 10 2013 03:14 GMT
#1700
Neal having to overtly move the party along is pretty telling tbh.
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