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Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
June 10 2013 03:14 GMT
#1701
Neal: 2:12 - oh thank sweet jexel.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51381 Posts
June 10 2013 03:17 GMT
#1702
beatrix...u huh sure neal.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
June 10 2013 03:23 GMT
#1703
Neal is awesome
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
June 10 2013 03:59 GMT
#1704
Ok, vincent touching anyones weiner is a finish your whole drink.
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
June 10 2013 04:07 GMT
#1705
it was all worth it for this last hour
Dgiese
Profile Joined July 2010
United States2687 Posts
June 10 2013 04:14 GMT
#1706
ugh, i hate how compelling the action sequences are compared to the shitty "I'm JP I want to join the party" sequences. Again, let me reinforce that JP didn't do a bad job with metagaming in mind, but with viewer quality in mind it was less than it could have been. Again, with what JPs character knew, he played it well, but it it did detract from the viewing experience (overall, still the best rolllplay so far, considering the first hour, but constructive criticism is still useful).
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
June 10 2013 04:32 GMT
#1707
Neal you fucking hero, more Rollplay Tuesday!
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
June 10 2013 04:36 GMT
#1708
Neal did Vincent enjoy the mintaur's rod? /roll d6
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
Koibu0
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States513 Posts
June 10 2013 09:07 GMT
#1709
more like roll 3d6
xPliCt
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany143 Posts
June 10 2013 09:48 GMT
#1710
I don't get the criticism on this episode. It was perhaps the first episode which included real roleplay and it was fun to watch. Especially the part about getting Banon into the group was fun. I don't know what your guys experience with introduction of new characters to the group is, but i made the experience that this is the most time consuming stuff in roleplay (unless you go with "you seem trustworthy do you want to join us on out noble quest")
Strela
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands1896 Posts
June 10 2013 10:46 GMT
#1711
On June 10 2013 18:48 xPliCt wrote:
I don't get the criticism on this episode. It was perhaps the first episode which included real roleplay and it was fun to watch. Especially the part about getting Banon into the group was fun. I don't know what your guys experience with introduction of new characters to the group is, but i made the experience that this is the most time consuming stuff in roleplay (unless you go with "you seem trustworthy do you want to join us on out noble quest")


This 1000000000%, it was very enjoyable imo
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
June 10 2013 11:20 GMT
#1712
On June 10 2013 18:48 xPliCt wrote:
I don't get the criticism on this episode. It was perhaps the first episode which included real roleplay and it was fun to watch. Especially the part about getting Banon into the group was fun. I don't know what your guys experience with introduction of new characters to the group is, but i made the experience that this is the most time consuming stuff in roleplay (unless you go with "you seem trustworthy do you want to join us on out noble quest")


the only truly worrying thing (to me) is that JP looks to have exchanged an evil, quippy half-ogre cleric with an evil, quippy human mage. there's nothing wrong with having and enjoying a type of character that you roleplay well, but JP as the party id is a dynamic that I was interested in seeing change, because imo his character has tended to dominate the tone of the party and the sessions simply because of how (enjoyably) obnoxious JP played tudagub in every aspect of the game. even if people call him a party troll, he and gen own the out-of-combat portions of the game whereas geoff and ryan only really come alive in combat situations; if banon is a quieter, less flamboyant character, it leaves a space that vincent, and bregor in particular, might come to fill.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
June 10 2013 12:48 GMT
#1713
On June 10 2013 18:48 xPliCt wrote:
I don't get the criticism on this episode. It was perhaps the first episode which included real roleplay and it was fun to watch. Especially the part about getting Banon into the group was fun. I don't know what your guys experience with introduction of new characters to the group is, but i made the experience that this is the most time consuming stuff in roleplay (unless you go with "you seem trustworthy do you want to join us on out noble quest")


I definitely agree. It'll be interesting to see how JP plays Banon. Sure, i hope it won't be just an "evil" and non-drinking version of tudagub.

I also can't believe how good the new song is by Zabimaru. Once again, fantastic job.

On June 09 2013 18:33 Zabimaru wrote:
Thank you Hitch-22 for bring up the video. <3

I’m the creator of the song- "The Journey"
Zabimaru on TL, Spiderdeathy on reddit/youtube and littlegirlscrow on twitch. Too many names I know. >_<

Means a lot that it’s liked. I’m definitely looking forward to doing more as it was so well received. ^_^

You can download it here:

MP3- https://soundcloud.com/spiderdeathy/rollplay-the-journey-so-far

Aif- https://soundcloud.com/spiderdeathy/rollplay-the-journey-so-far-hq

"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Dubzex
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6994 Posts
June 10 2013 18:56 GMT
#1714
On June 10 2013 18:07 Koibu0 wrote:
more like roll 3d6

So what did the dice show?
"DONT UNDERESTIMATE MY CARRY OR YOU WILL BE CARRIED INTO THE ABYSS OF SUFFERING" - Tyler 'TC' Cook
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:23:02
June 10 2013 20:18 GMT
#1715
Im actually disappointed by Bregor, Abigael, and especially Vincent.
If some random douche appears and insults them or any of the party members (in this case Tudagub), Vincent would be the first one to slap that guy in the face and cut off his head.
They were trying to get across how they didnt like that new Banon dude and didnt trust him, but still let them join their party? Makes no sense.

JP made it really hard for them to let him join the party without making it feel forced, so thats his fault, but they could have rollplayed it better and actually killed that douche Banon.
If someone tries to join your party and the first thing he does is to disrespect your dead party members, especially if i am just in the mourning phase, i would never let that guy join my party, maybe even kill him on the spot.
They metagamed it way too hard by letting him join the party considering their actual feelings regarding that Banon dude.
TheExile19
Profile Joined June 2011
513 Posts
June 10 2013 20:25 GMT
#1716
On June 11 2013 05:18 gh0un wrote:
Im actually disappointed by Bregor, Abigael, and especially Vincent.
If some random douche appears and insults them or any of the party members (in this case Tudagub), Vincent would be the first one to slap that guy in the face and cut off his head.
They were trying to get across how they didnt like that new Banon dude, but still let them join their party? Makes no sense.

JP made it really hard for them to let him join the party without making it feel forced, so thats his fault, but they could have rollplayed it better and actually killed that douche Banon.
If someone tries to join your party and the first thing he does is to disrespect your dead party members, especially if i am just in the mourning phase, i would never let that guy join my party, maybe even kill him on the spot.
They metagamed it way too hard by letting him join the party considering their actual feelings regarding that Banon dude.


so your solution would be to make the transitional period between characters even more awkward? they're strangers in a strange land that need a 4th adventuring member to avenge their previous 4th, they aren't exactly brimming with options from an in-character perspective.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11971 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 20:50:59
June 10 2013 20:50 GMT
#1717
On June 11 2013 05:18 gh0un wrote:
Im actually disappointed by Bregor, Abigael, and especially Vincent.
If some random douche appears and insults them or any of the party members (in this case Tudagub), Vincent would be the first one to slap that guy in the face and cut off his head.
They were trying to get across how they didnt like that new Banon dude and didnt trust him, but still let them join their party? Makes no sense.

JP made it really hard for them to let him join the party without making it feel forced, so thats his fault, but they could have rollplayed it better and actually killed that douche Banon.
If someone tries to join your party and the first thing he does is to disrespect your dead party members, especially if i am just in the mourning phase, i would never let that guy join my party, maybe even kill him on the spot.
They metagamed it way too hard by letting him join the party considering their actual feelings regarding that Banon dude.


That is always a problem if you have a group with no real reason to hang out together in the first place. At the beginning, you can go with "yeah, you all know each other", but after that, all people involved should just show some common sense. Don't play a guy that has no reason to run around with that weird group, and don't question too deeply why you should let that weird guy join you, or why you would want to join this group of semi-criminal hobos.

I actually prefer the "you seem trustworthy, come join us" way of doing this. Sometimes you gotta metagame a bit to make this fun. Or at least make a character that would have a good reason to join a group of "adventurers" (more like hired thugs), and make compelling arguments as to why they should let you join.
Geo3
Profile Joined December 2010
United States63 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 22:07:31
June 10 2013 22:06 GMT
#1718
On June 10 2013 20:20 TheExile19 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2013 18:48 xPliCt wrote:
I don't get the criticism on this episode. It was perhaps the first episode which included real roleplay and it was fun to watch. Especially the part about getting Banon into the group was fun. I don't know what your guys experience with introduction of new characters to the group is, but i made the experience that this is the most time consuming stuff in roleplay (unless you go with "you seem trustworthy do you want to join us on out noble quest")

the only truly worrying thing (to me) is that JP looks to have exchanged an evil, quippy half-ogre cleric with an evil, quippy human mage. there's nothing wrong with having and enjoying a type of character that you roleplay well, but JP as the party id is a dynamic that I was interested in seeing change, because imo his character has tended to dominate the tone of the party and the sessions simply because of how (enjoyably) obnoxious JP played tudagub in every aspect of the game.
That just comes down to it being mostly JP's personality. You are never going to truly separate a character from the person that plays them, unless you want the character to appear flat and not genuine, or the RPer is an amazing actor. So I don't really see Banon being similar to Tudagub as a problem at all.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-10 22:35:33
June 10 2013 22:30 GMT
#1719
I was a bit disappointed how quickly especially Vincent of all party members gave up on exploring options to bring Tudagub back. He just wanted to burn him and all of his belongings (!) as quickly as possible. It felt like only Geoff was informed (by JP?) before the show that re-rolling was a foregone conclusion. I wish Abigael had at least followed through in taking all of Tudagub's valuable and iconic belongings (Pink Boots, healing bracelet, etc.). It's dumb not to do that when the party needs everything at their disposal to survive in the Elven Lands. The Pink Boots were also a key item to tie in the new JP character, yet again the party, or more so Vincent this time, managed to destroy a valuable quest item. So aggravating sometimes.

Enter Banon. His attempts to join the party out of the blue seemed really strange. Saying "my life-long quest (to find the stolen Pink Boots of my father) was stopped dead in its tracks (by you), but hey, can I join you?" felt out of place. JP should have played it out better and more believably I feel. For instance, he could have offered his services since he had traveled this far already (without the explicit goal to join the party), and then just slowly grow into staying with them for good over time.
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xPliCt
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany143 Posts
June 10 2013 23:45 GMT
#1720
On June 11 2013 07:30 Proseat wrote:
I was a bit disappointed how quickly especially Vincent of all party members gave up on exploring options to bring Tudagub back. He just wanted to burn him and all of his belongings (!) as quickly as possible. It felt like only Geoff was informed (by JP?) before the show that re-rolling was a foregone conclusion. I wish Abigael had at least followed through in taking all of Tudagub's valuable and iconic belongings (Pink Boots, healing bracelet, etc.). It's dumb not to do that when the party needs everything at their disposal to survive in the Elven Lands. The Pink Boots were also a key item to tie in the new JP character, yet again the party, or more so Vincent this time, managed to destroy a valuable quest item. So aggravating sometimes.

Enter Banon. His attempts to join the party out of the blue seemed really strange. Saying "my life-long quest (to find the stolen Pink Boots of my father) was stopped dead in its tracks (by you), but hey, can I join you?" felt out of place. JP should have played it out better and more believably I feel. For instance, he could have offered his services since he had traveled this far already (without the explicit goal to join the party), and then just slowly grow into staying with them for good over time.


Reviving someone is a huge miracle. Just because we all know there is a spell, this doesn't mean that the characters know it for sure. They killed lords and paladins and they weren't revived so why should Tudagub be an exception to it. People die in that world and you have to accept it.

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