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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On August 26 2013 22:41 whoso wrote: is the netcode better/will it be better than sf4 (pc version)? What is bad about SSF4AE's netcode. Yes, the matchmaking sucks, but otherwise I haven't had any major problems with the netcode itself (only with people with bad connections trying to play the game) | ||
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Duka08
3391 Posts
On August 26 2013 23:08 WindWolf wrote: What is bad about SSF4AE's netcode. Yes, the matchmaking sucks, but otherwise I havenät had any major problems with the netcode itself (only with people with bad connections trying to play the game) I agree with this. With more and more games working their way to the PC, everyone's comparing stuff to AE's net code. And I'm sitting here thinking "I HOPE KoF's net code is as good as AE's" lol... | ||
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whoso
Germany523 Posts
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Excalibur_Z
United States12244 Posts
On August 26 2013 23:08 WindWolf wrote: What is bad about SSF4AE's netcode. Yes, the matchmaking sucks, but otherwise I haven't had any major problems with the netcode itself (only with people with bad connections trying to play the game) There's a noticeable input delay in AE when you're playing online compared to offline. Even if it's just 2-3 frames or so (I don't know if this has been measured at all) you still have to execute your combos based on timing rather than visual or aural cues, and it becomes more difficult to react to certain things like blocking mixups or breaking throws. When the connection has a bad spike, it does this really annoying thing where first it slows way down, then one player can't do anything for a number of seconds, then the other player can't do anything for a number of seconds. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On August 26 2013 23:51 Excalibur_Z wrote: There's a noticeable input delay in AE when you're playing online compared to offline. Even if it's just 2-3 frames or so (I don't know if this has been measured at all) you still have to execute your combos based on timing rather than visual or aural cues, and it becomes more difficult to react to certain things like blocking mixups or breaking throws. Because I'm more of a casual player (who has almost clocked ~100 hours on this game haha), this hasn't really been a problem for me unless the connection itself is REALLY bad | ||
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Noocta
France12578 Posts
On August 26 2013 23:51 Excalibur_Z wrote: There's a noticeable input delay in AE when you're playing online compared to offline. Even if it's just 2-3 frames or so (I don't know if this has been measured at all) you still have to execute your combos based on timing rather than visual or aural cues, and it becomes more difficult to react to certain things like blocking mixups or breaking throws. When the connection has a bad spike, it does this really annoying thing where first it slows way down, then one player can't do anything for a number of seconds, then the other player can't do anything for a number of seconds. Honestly, online in Europe seems a lot better than in the US for AE. Every time I watch streams of people playing in the US, you barely have any 4 bars and play a lot of 3 bars. | ||
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YulyaVolkova
United Kingdom95 Posts
To give a random example, I can reaction ultra TAPs from Balrogs from half screenish offline. One day I played a Balrog online that would open every round hold TAP->wait for fireball->TAP through it. Literally every round for about 5 games straight. From the second round I checked to see how exploitable he was and walked backwards to near full screen, then slow fireballed on Ryu. Anyone who knows anything about Balrog knows YOU DO NOT TAP THROUGH THIS. He TAPed through it and did it in the exact same situation for all of the remaining games vs my identical opening. Me, being retarded, foolishly forced myself to not just slow fireball->mash punish to TAP, but actually see the TAP and react punish. Couldn't do it once, and our delay wasn't even that bad. I get experiences like this not too infrequently and it makes me sad. Otherwise, online in SF4 is pretty good. Ive never really understood the complaints about '1F links impossible online' etc, me playing online or offline makes absolutely no difference to my combo consistency, do people really attempt to learn combos by watching for specific frames of their characters animation in order to time the next normal...? Sounds pretty damn inconsistant from a purely mental standpoint. | ||
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Aando
1304 Posts
On August 27 2013 00:54 Noocta wrote: Honestly, online in Europe seems a lot better than in the US for AE. Every time I watch streams of people playing in the US, you barely have any 4 bars and play a lot of 3 bars. We also have it a lot easier to determine the quality of the connection by just looking at what country the opponent comes from. Sure that Spain connection might be green but I know I got a least 70ms to Spain so I just avoid playing them if I can. Same goes for all the Mediterranean countries sans France and eastern Europe. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On August 27 2013 00:54 Noocta wrote: Honestly, online in Europe seems a lot better than in the US for AE. Every time I watch streams of people playing in the US, you barely have any 4 bars and play a lot of 3 bars. Funny thing is, it has happened to me that I on the same day has played people in Brazil with less lag compared to other people in Sweden :p | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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Silentenigma
Turkey2037 Posts
On August 27 2013 01:09 YulyaVolkova wrote: AE netcode seems 'solid' on PC for me. It definitely makes some things much more awkward to deal with though, at least in my personal experience. Plenty of things in the game are almost entirely balanced around the fact that if you're specifically watching for X, you can stuff it/block it/punish it etc on reaction, but only just. Add in even just 50 ping (about 3 frames of delay) and this often turns things from being pretty easy to defend against/punish to being really quite tricky. Add in any more than this bare minimum amount of delay you can expect and suddenly almost nothing can be done on reaction against moves that need to be punished during startup, which sucks. To give a random example, I can reaction ultra TAPs from Balrogs from half screenish offline. One day I played a Balrog online that would open every round hold TAP->wait for fireball->TAP through it. Literally every round for about 5 games straight. From the second round I checked to see how exploitable he was and walked backwards to near full screen, then slow fireballed on Ryu. Anyone who knows anything about Balrog knows YOU DO NOT TAP THROUGH THIS. He TAPed through it and did it in the exact same situation for all of the remaining games vs my identical opening. Me, being retarded, foolishly forced myself to not just slow fireball->mash punish to TAP, but actually see the TAP and react punish. Couldn't do it once, and our delay wasn't even that bad. I get experiences like this not too infrequently and it makes me sad. Otherwise, online in SF4 is pretty good. Ive never really understood the complaints about '1F links impossible online' etc, me playing online or offline makes absolutely no difference to my combo consistency, do people really attempt to learn combos by watching for specific frames of their characters animation in order to time the next normal...? Sounds pretty damn inconsistant from a purely mental standpoint. Inconsistent ping makes 1frames impossible.It doesnt matter how you do those, you wont be able to perform your 1link combos against bad ping people consistently. | ||
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YulyaVolkova
United Kingdom95 Posts
On August 27 2013 02:38 Silentenigma wrote: Inconsistent ping makes 1frames impossible.It doesnt matter how you do those, you wont be able to perform your 1link combos against bad ping people consistently. Yeah I agree that that would be the case, might just be a US thing tho. Over here in Europe it doesn't take me long to find someone I have relatively low delay+very consistant connection to. Pings really don't usually bounce around with large amounts of variance on a solid stable connection. If I notice any kind of stutter/warping (at all) I go find someone else. | ||
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polgas
Canada1776 Posts
Low tier Phoenix Wright in UMVC3 | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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mcht
Germany201 Posts
im pretty noob but hipster enough that i have a stick :D ranked games is so much waiting time  just pm me if you wanna destroy me! | ||
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Bartholomew
United States3 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On August 27 2013 04:44 polgas wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gBX4bUUjsU Low tier Phoenix Wright in UMVC3 Hahaha that was so good. Also proof of why you never give up before the game says it's over | ||
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
KoF XIII is now available on Steam. It's not "officially" released for 10 more days, but if you buy it now, you get access to the beta. | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
On September 05 2013 23:25 WindWolf wrote: There seems to be less lobbies in the PC-version of Skullgirls now... Or did I just play at the wrong time Play Chaos Code, then you won't have to worry about lobbies! | ||
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