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Sylvex
United States127 Posts
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On June 05 2013 04:45 Sylvex wrote: I wouldn't say all the planes are exactly the same, there's no way my Japanese planes will ever perform the same way as my American planes (I've tried to force them TT_TT), but the flight models are more simplified for sure. Again, I think it would be a lot more fun if you got respawns. I kinda want them to have a mode between HB and Arcade where you have HB flight models/reload mechanics/etc, but random maps and countries on both teams and respawns enabled. Same, especially since they already mix the allies. It'd make things much easier for the matchmaking. That way when 10 F86 Sabre's queue up, they don't get matched against German biplanes or whatever. They'd get split with 5 Sabre's on each team. | ||
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
Historical seems like a no go to me for time being at least due to seemingly long queues and really slow gameplay. Arcade on the other hand is like the exact opposite, I would like matches to last a bit longer than five minutes and the only game mode I'm getting into is ground attack and I can't even toggle it off? I hope this isn't the most popular game mode as I'm not overly impressed by it. Essentially I don't want to kill or deal with any damn AI defenses. Also what should/shouldn't I spend my money to? | ||
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MaestroSC
United States2073 Posts
On June 05 2013 22:04 Vaelone wrote: So I downloaded this yesterday and played about ten arcade matches and one historical. Historical seems like a no go to me for time being at least due to seemingly long queues and really slow gameplay. Arcade on the other hand is like the exact opposite, I would like matches to last a bit longer than five minutes and the only game mode I'm getting into is ground attack and I can't even toggle it off? I hope this isn't the most popular game mode as I'm not overly impressed by it. Essentially I don't want to kill or deal with any damn AI defenses. Also what should/shouldn't I spend my money to? when u get to later levels, generally roles are filled by the type of plane you bring. The first levels, its true u can win the matches by killing the ground defenses and just "blitzing" them... but later on This role is typically reserved for High Altitude bombers, and Fighter planes roles involve playing defense, both of your ground defenses, and defending your bombers.... idk its all about what you want to do honestly. | ||
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On June 05 2013 22:04 Vaelone wrote: So I downloaded this yesterday and played about ten arcade matches and one historical. Historical seems like a no go to me for time being at least due to seemingly long queues and really slow gameplay. Arcade on the other hand is like the exact opposite, I would like matches to last a bit longer than five minutes and the only game mode I'm getting into is ground attack and I can't even toggle it off? I hope this isn't the most popular game mode as I'm not overly impressed by it. Essentially I don't want to kill or deal with any damn AI defenses. Also what should/shouldn't I spend my money to? The gameplay in HB is slower, but its also more rewarding. You make more lions and xp in a good HB match than you do in practically any AB match. Plus, the more realistic flight models mean you have to play smarter to do well. I would only recommend arcade if you only have biplanes. | ||
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Sylvex
United States127 Posts
The only time I would recommend Historical is if you're extremely confident in your flying and have a plane that you are extremely comfortable controlling. I would do practice flights on historical difficulty as well because the arcade flight models are much easier to handle. Arcade on the other hand is easy to pick up, quick to get into battles, and you have respawns to fall back on in case you accidentally screw up or you get an unlucky cockpit hit early on. | ||
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On June 06 2013 07:18 Sylvex wrote: Thats definitely going way too far. Arcade is fun at every level, and Historical can be very tedious at every level. Its more "rewarding" to play historical battle because skill plays a larger factor, but so does the plane you pick. Actual Lion rewards are higher as well, but the repair costs are higher to match. Historical Battles are always much slower paced and you have no respawns which makes them extremely slow compared to arcade. Even if you leave the HB early right when you die, you have to sit through the long queues again. The only time I would recommend Historical is if you're extremely confident in your flying and have a plane that you are extremely comfortable controlling. I would do practice flights on historical difficulty as well because the arcade flight models are much easier to handle. Arcade on the other hand is easy to pick up, quick to get into battles, and you have respawns to fall back on in case you accidentally screw up or you get an unlucky cockpit hit early on. The repair cost doesn't start to outrun income until T10 or so, even then you can make it work if you're really good up to T14 or so. I actually find Arcade to be more expensive, because at the end of a bad arcade match, you've got 5 planes to repair as opposed to 1. I would say skill is much more important than what plane you fly in HB. But it isn't just general skill, it's skill with a specific plane (excluding biplanes, they're pointless in HB). There are no unkillable planes, even jets can die to prop planes if they aren't careful. In arcade, there is often nothing you can do, no matter how good you are. You can't even say "well, you shouldn't have gotten into that situation", because the FM's are so forgiving it's absurd. Most energy fighters can't boom and zoom in arcade, because everything can keep up with them long enough to do serious damage. Altitude advantage also matters much less given the insane climb rates and lack of stalls. Arcade = Call of Duty HB = ArmA | ||
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Sylvex
United States127 Posts
Video detailing the upcoming changes. No idea how finalized it is but there's a lot more lower tiers than I expected. The way I understand it there's 1 team working on the Russian planes and 1 team working on all the other trees, so its unsurprising to see that the Russians got the most planes. Another video I saw (by the same guy linked in the description) shows that the Japanese are also getting some new planes. They are heavy fighters, the KI-45 variants, and there's 4 of them from tier 4 to tier 7. | ||
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
Lets say I buy the Russian Premium Catalina, will I go against reserve planes or has that been fixed by now? That just seems too hilarious not to try... | ||
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On June 07 2013 15:48 Vaelone wrote: Enjoying this quite a lot more now that I got more variation in planes and maps, killing defenses with bombers doesn't feel quite as pointless as doing it with the reserve biplanes. Lets say I buy the Russian Premium Catalina, will I go against reserve planes or has that been fixed by now? That just seems too hilarious not to try... Depends on server populations. If they get too low it just makes any match it can, regardless of tier. Also remember, it matches you based on your highest level plane, so someone could bring a T3 Buffalo, and 4 T0 Peashooters and you could still be matched against them in your Cat. | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On June 09 2013 01:00 daemir wrote: So what the hell is up, I run game launcher and it proceeds into a sort of error window but it's all in russian! What? I'm not russian, I didn't select russian as language, this looks suspect as fuck, what trojans is it trying to install on me? Does the game ever start? I get an error window too, though mine is in English. After 30 seconds or so, the game starts up regardless of the error. | ||
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Rah
United States973 Posts
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Vaelone
Finland4400 Posts
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Rah
United States973 Posts
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On June 10 2013 04:44 Rah wrote: How should I be flying in this with mouse and keyboard? The default mode they start you out with was really nice for aiming but it felt like I didn't have a lot of control of my plane. I switched it in options to relative control or something similar to that where controlling the plane feels more like in planetside 2 and you have to control the pitch and roll, but it's more wobbly in this game. What's the set up that good players use for the mouse in this game? Will the plane always feel wobbly in relative control or does that have to do with crew training or something weird like that? some of the wobble might be due to low FPS. It's a known issue that's been around forever with all of the mouse control schemes. I use the default controls, and use the keyboard to do things the mouse won't let me do, like Split S's or Snap Rolls. The other mouse controls felt really unwieldy to me, so I just stuck with the defaults. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Millitron
United States2611 Posts
On June 10 2013 17:10 daemir wrote: Yea I just went with what was the default and I only play arcades, as I'm not looking for an hour long realism battles. they very rarely take an hour, usually 15-20 minutes. | ||
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