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Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
May 24 2014 19:03 GMT
#201
Some planes are different in AB and RB. The FW190A5 is actually one of them with 5.0 in AB and 4.7 in RB. The battle ratings for most planes are just dumb in general though, and Gaijin has no idea how to create balanced matchmaking.

Tanks were also released early imo. Lots of small glitches like the aiming reticule showing aiming at friendlies instead of enemies, bad damage models, and weird physics. But I also can't even play the Germans because any time I try to use the reserve tank is says the crew is not ready.



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decemberscalm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1353 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-24 19:31:35
May 24 2014 19:30 GMT
#202
Loving the tanks so far compared to World of Tanks at least. They've been patching like crazy.

Realistic Battles are fantastic.

I have shot literally my entire ammo pools worth of AP and HE at T-50's with a stug, but I figured out actually reliable ways of killing them.

If you are playing as the germans, pick up the PZ IV as soon as you can. Play it till you get its hull charge shell (the second shell in between AP and HE). Put all your ammo into that and you'll start penetrating those stupid armored tanks you couldn't pen before.

Vs russian tanks, especially vs the T-50 and early T-34's there are a few nice places to aim.
The side of the tank at the turret ring. One of the most lethal places to shoot a T-50.
View port is apparently really good, but I've had better success at shooting the cannon mantlet. Basically shoot on the enemy turret as close as you can on the turret where their cannon connects.

1 shotting hordes of russian tanks felt pretty good after being unable to damage anything but their tracks.
Millitron
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2611 Posts
May 24 2014 20:05 GMT
#203
On May 25 2014 04:03 Myles wrote:
Some planes are different in AB and RB. The FW190A5 is actually one of them with 5.0 in AB and 4.7 in RB. The battle ratings for most planes are just dumb in general though, and Gaijin has no idea how to create balanced matchmaking.

Tanks were also released early imo. Lots of small glitches like the aiming reticule showing aiming at friendlies instead of enemies, bad damage models, and weird physics. But I also can't even play the Germans because any time I try to use the reserve tank is says the crew is not ready.

I actually think tanks are pretty good aside from the garbage maps. Once you get to at least the Pz4F1, those T50's and T34's aren't so bad. The maps (Except Kursk) are stupidly close-range and not realistic at all. They certainly do not belong in SB. Neither does the off-map artillery support.


On May 25 2014 04:30 decemberscalm wrote:
Loving the tanks so far compared to World of Tanks at least. They've been patching like crazy.

Realistic Battles are fantastic.

I have shot literally my entire ammo pools worth of AP and HE at T-50's with a stug, but I figured out actually reliable ways of killing them.

If you are playing as the germans, pick up the PZ IV as soon as you can. Play it till you get its hull charge shell (the second shell in between AP and HE). Put all your ammo into that and you'll start penetrating those stupid armored tanks you couldn't pen before.

Vs russian tanks, especially vs the T-50 and early T-34's there are a few nice places to aim.
The side of the tank at the turret ring. One of the most lethal places to shoot a T-50.
View port is apparently really good, but I've had better success at shooting the cannon mantlet. Basically shoot on the enemy turret as close as you can on the turret where their cannon connects.

1 shotting hordes of russian tanks felt pretty good after being unable to damage anything but their tracks.

Try Simulator Battles for tanks. Its even better than RB. And unlike in SB for planes, you use the exact same control schemes, so there's no real entry barrier.

As for killing Russian tanks in T1, I really can't recommend the Pz4C. That low velocity gun is garbage, and even with HEAT ammo (which takes quite awhile to grind to), you can still struggle to kill T34's and T28's. Plus the Pz4C has practically no armor. T1, I can only recommend the Stug 3A, and the Panzer 3 with the 37mm.

I also had a lot of fun in the Pz4F1, though I hated it till I got HEAT ammo. I'd only recommend the F1 if you don't mind a very painful grind before it's fun.
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decemberscalm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1353 Posts
May 24 2014 22:26 GMT
#204
I have an easier time getting into Realistic battles simply due to the absurd long wait time for simulator. Its a good compromise in my eyes, more manageable wait times for a tiny bit of players shooting through trees on occasion.
Hoping sim gets more populated because of the lack of entry barrier.

Arcade tank battles are just awful.
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-24 23:18:32
May 24 2014 23:16 GMT
#205
I play on EU server and wait times for SB are around 2min which is perfectly fine imho.

and yea balance wise I hated tier 1 german tanks. But now that I got to the Pz4 F2 it's awesome. Russians can still kill you jsut as easily as with the other paper tanks before the F2 but by god the gun the F2 has is simply amazing. Not as high velocity as the Pz3 L but because of its bigger caliber and superior ammo type the F2 is able to penetrate russian tanks at very good distances reliably right from the get go. And the ammo also deals way more damage when it penetrates. With the Pz3 L I always had the problem that I hit the enemy but killing shots were very rare and more often then not I would not deal any critical damage at all even though I penetrated.

TaShadan
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany1978 Posts
May 27 2014 18:52 GMT
#206
As for killing Russian tanks in T1, I really can't recommend the Pz4C. That low velocity gun is garbage, and even with HEAT ammo (which takes quite awhile to grind to), you can still struggle to kill T34's and T28's. Plus the Pz4C has practically no armor. T1, I can only recommend the Stug 3A, and the Panzer 3 with the 37mm.


I agree. Although i like to play with the PzIV C, i have much better results with the StugIII A.
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