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Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany6841 Posts
October 30 2020 08:13 GMT
#441
On October 30 2020 16:23 thePunGun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2020 00:52 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
The 3070 is on sale at Newegg if you wanna grab one.

I think I'll be betting my money on AMD this gpu generation. Because all future 'Xbox Series X' and 'PS5' games will run on a custom RDNA 2 chip, which means most future games will be optimized for AMD's RDNA 2 chips anyways.
And after watching the "big Navi" reveal yesterday I'm even more convinced, Nvidia's days dominating the market are probably over. The rx6000 cards are cheaper, require less power (300 watts overall compared to the 320/350 watts of the 3080/3090) and performance wise either match or outperform their Nvidia 3000 series equivalent.
Thank god there's finally some competition in the cpu and gpu market, so both Intel and Nvidia will finally be forced into more reasonal pricing for their products.


This! The Ryzen 5 2500 was my first AMD CPU since ever and if the trend continues the RTX 2060 will be my last Nvidia GPU for a while. Also, when looking at new monitors, G-Sync is always 100+ bucks more than FreeSync. Absoulte shamelessness from Nvidia
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7214 Posts
October 30 2020 08:28 GMT
#442
On October 30 2020 10:39 m4ini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2020 00:52 Zambrah wrote:
If your timeframe is impossible to finish within you've botched the project planning. Making games isn't a new enterprise, people who are deciding these time frames need to be factoring in the numerous unforeseen issues that invariably arise during game development. Never give these large game companies the benefit of the doubt, they always know better, they actively choose to make crap decisions in the name of releasing before a financial quarter/holiday, etc.

That being said, I otherwise agree, I miss the good 'ol days of that reliable Soon™ attitude...


I'm sorry, are you suggesting that when they set out their timeframe they should've accounted for the possibility of a global pandemic?


Do you follow videogames? Evidently not if you think the issue of games having to be crunched out is due solely to the coronavirus.

Video game studios are notorious for fucking up their time management, or are you saying that Cyberpunk 2077 was going to be out as of April without the Corona virus there?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-30 15:59:36
October 30 2020 15:57 GMT
#443
just gotta say I got a AMD GPU and it's been crashing and having issues a LOT LOT many users reported the same i don't recommend : / (they can't figure out the driver apparently; RX 5700 series)
sometimes it's stable for a few weeks sometimes it crashes several times a day and some other issues
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8961 Posts
October 30 2020 16:30 GMT
#444
Which AMD GPU did you get? I have a 5700XT and it's pretty stable. No issues after the first month or so (once firmware was updated).
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-30 16:47:46
October 30 2020 16:35 GMT
#445
had problems for months as did other users it's still going on but less frequent RX 5700
(TDR blue screen crashes on desktop stuff, before that it was also black screen during games [results in crash/have to shut down] and another loss of 75% performance until restart that one still happens rarely i think)
at times it was almost daily for months really annoying. i mean i can forgive amd but i think next card i get other : p
theres one thing i didnt do is update motherboard bios -.- scared of bricking. anyway thats off topic
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8961 Posts
October 30 2020 18:05 GMT
#446
Yeah. I got mine a year or so ago. There's been no issues that would put me off on getting another AMD card. Maybe you just got a really bad one or something but trying updating the bios and the card again.

Anyway, I think the game would have been released in the summer had the pandemic not happened.
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
October 30 2020 18:29 GMT
#447
i update the driver all the time, but bios im scared lul
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11422 Posts
October 30 2020 18:47 GMT
#448
There are a few other things which can lead to weird issues after installing a new GPU. I personally experienced my CPU overheating (because apparently i managed to dislodge the CPU cooler while installing the GPU) and random PC restarts (because my PSU was a lying piece of shit which couldn't deliver enough power for the new GPU while claiming to be able to deliver 750W)

I assume you took a look at your temps while running a burn test?
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-30 19:12:45
October 30 2020 19:05 GMT
#449
yeah i did burn test. im quite sure its faulty driver because many users report same issues pretty much plus thats what i was told by after sale guys, they also said they had lots of such reports with amd gpus, also appears or comes back regularly on driver known issues list etc. or in the fixed issues but then it still happens lul. could be some association with some other hardware that doesn't work right with the driver or something like that (tho im using amd cpu..)
well, at least the performances are good for the cost, and now sometimes it stays stable for days almost weeks, and it won't crash during gameplay only desktop stuff
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9234 Posts
October 30 2020 19:17 GMT
#450
Well afaik some 5700xt models had hardware problems and they tried for a while to fix them with drivers.
only moderately successful though. but by far the most 5700xt should be able to work properly for a while already.
maybe your card is one of the unlucky models or simply defective?
passive quaranstream fan
ProMeTheus112
Profile Joined December 2009
France2027 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-31 00:20:31
October 31 2020 00:20 GMT
#451
i wish it was recognized as such so i could exchange it unfortunately since it passes burn test they say its a driver problem so yeah can't exchange, definitely looks like it
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9234 Posts
October 31 2020 10:07 GMT
#452
That's too bad man :-(
passive quaranstream fan
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17238 Posts
November 13 2020 12:39 GMT
#453
So, the rumor is that CP2k77 is going to be pushed to 2021.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8961 Posts
November 13 2020 15:09 GMT
#454
From what I've read, that's all it is.
PhoenixVoid
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Canada32740 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-11-21 08:03:49
November 19 2020 17:37 GMT
#455


New previews

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/we-played-16-hours-of-cyberpunk-2077-and-the-best-part-was-the-people/1100-6484603/

https://www.pcgamer.com/i-love-being-a-cyber-samurai-and-other-revelations-from-playing-15-hours-of-cyberpunk-2077/

https://www.ign.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-the-final-preview





My impression from the previews

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-Night City is highly detailed and bursting with life. It's immediately grabbing and you want to drive around endlessly soaking in its streets. On beastly PCs you can raise the NPCs on screen and get the full experience of a bustling metropolis.
-Writing and characters are praised extensively for their depth. Cyberpunk is unafraid to handle morbid and mature topics, but also knows how to balance with light and humour.
-Contrary to the promo materials and trailers selling the game as action-packed and explosive, most of the experience didn't resemble that framing. The prologue is plodding, dialogue-driven and takes six hours to reach the title card.
-Sidequests are as good, if not better than the ones in TW3 in terms of writing and gameplay. There's lots of simple ones you find wandering the city, but the good sidequests are carefully crafted and are on par with the main quests. Some have ramifications on the main story.
-Enormous potential for replayability because there's such a wide web of story decisions and plausible ways to play like non-lethal, stealth, hacking or all-out violence.
-Combat is quite good at times. The guns sound powerful and have satisfying physical feedback with recoil and enemies that are inflicted with limb injuries when shot. Melee combat is improved from past previews and is enjoyable enough. Best parts of the combat are when you utilize the full extent of your arsenal and think creatively, rather than as a shooter or action game.
-Do NOT expect Cyberpunk as a shooter on par with games like Doom or CoD. This is still very much an RPG and it will affect how the combat progresses. It is such an RPG that it almost comes at the detriment of the shooting because enemies end up somewhat bulletspongy due to your stats taking precedence over traditional FPS rules like headshots being one hit kills.
-Stealth gameplay is standard and nothing groundbreaking. Some previewers expressed frustration with the AI being either too good at spotting you, or too stupid and unresponsive to your moves. If you knock out guards, they don't wake up apparently.
-Level design presents you with numerous, viable paths to reach your objective.
-You can feasibly play Cyberpunk like you were playing GTA, but the game isn't designed for it. You can rampage in the streets and steal cars, but the civilian AI isn't as responsive as GTA, you need a pretty high body stat to jack vehicles and the police chases are short-lived.
-Most common frame of reference for the game in general was Deus Ex, not GTA, Bethesda RPGs or any FPS.
-Ammo is plentiful and guns use generic ammo types. For example, all pistols share universal ammo despite being very different like a magnum revolver vs. pistol. Don't expect details like certain guns requiring a caliber to use or a lot of resource management.
-Previewers noticed a significant amount of bugs that affect the visuals and gameplay. Nothing gamebreaking, but a noticeable flaw that needs correcting in time.
-Enemy AI during combat is said to range from serviceable (melee enemies charge at you, enemies with guns take cover and shoot) to pretty dumb (unresponsive to attacks, can forget there is an enemy in the room pretty quickly when you're playing stealthily and killed someone). General NPC behaviour isn't going to be the most natural. The previewers stole things right in front of NPCs and jacked vehicles in front of workers, but there was no response.
-Quest log can be overwhelming and inelegant.
-Animations for NPCs are good, but not the finest in the industry like TLoU2.
-Driving is passable because it's got good inertia, weight and speed. Cars don't take realistic levels of damage when crashing or caught underneath another vehicle. It's pretty arcady in that way.
-Loot can require a certain level to equip and use. (I personally don't like this. If it's a weapon with high stats to master, just make it control poorly until you reach an adequate level, not gate players out of it. Feels real dumb being incapable of wielding a certain gun just because it can't separate being a video game from its world)
-Crafting is simple. The game is not trying to innovate on the typical crafting mechanics you see in many games lately.

Overall what most are saying: Cyberpunk won't be re-inventing the wheel, but there's magic is how it combines so many ideas and executes them fairly well in the purpose of a full-fledged, well-written RPG that respects your decisions. It's not trying to have the best combat, the best stealth, the best driving and car physics, the best lifesim elements or the most innovative RPG gameplay, and you shouldn't come in expecting that. The biggest problems mentioned are usually the bugs and enemy AI.
I'm afraid of demented knife-wielding escaped lunatic libertarian zombie mutants
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17238 Posts
November 20 2020 05:23 GMT
#456


Judy waifu confirmed!
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
8961 Posts
November 20 2020 07:27 GMT
#457
6 hours before you even begin the game? That's gonna be...tough lol.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17238 Posts
November 20 2020 08:02 GMT
#458
I must say I don't envy CDPR. This is probably the most hyped game of the decade and if anything goes wrong with it there will be so much hate spilling everywhere...
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9234 Posts
November 20 2020 09:08 GMT
#459
I watched the last episode of night city wire and it's gotten me so hyped up to almost preorder. But then I thought better of it and went to sleep.

Not as hyped right now as yesterday but I've got a feeling that cdpr will make less mistakes than Ubisoft and ultimately they'll polish the game enough for it to be an immense pleasure immersing yourself in it.
Wish I still had my big screen tho.
passive quaranstream fan
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9524 Posts
November 20 2020 09:40 GMT
#460
On November 20 2020 17:02 Manit0u wrote:
I must say I don't envy CDPR. This is probably the most hyped game of the decade and if anything goes wrong with it there will be so much hate spilling everywhere...

Regardless of what happens there's going to be hate spilling everywhere.
They have already had death threats for delaying the game.
Death threats.
For delaying a game's release date.
:/
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