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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 30 2013 19:22 GMT
#2361
cuz Xerneas and Yveltal come with guaranteed 3 max IVs lol.

trying to catch a perfect 6 IV pokemon in the wild is basically gambling on a 1/887,503,681 chance, so yeah, don't bother

generally you start with friend safari pokemon (2 perfect IVs) and breed from there.


and i used my shiny stone to get a roserade need one for togekiss now
Writer:o
lethyl
Profile Joined March 2010
United States207 Posts
October 30 2013 19:40 GMT
#2362
On October 31 2013 04:12 Fazers wrote:
Can you only get perfect IV through breeding?
For EV training, all you need to do is activate super training? :3

Sorry, I have absolutely no idea how this works so explanations would be very much appreciated!


super training sucks so hard for EV training, hordes is 100x faster, remember to get the power item from battle maison ( or a friend)
~
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 30 2013 19:53 GMT
#2363
On October 31 2013 03:12 ReketSomething wrote:
I just googled around and got 20% boost. STrong Jaw and Mega Launcher are 50%

does that mean 20/50% increase on the moves base damage or the attack stat? knowing strong jaw is 50% makes that one pokemon look quite a bit scarier
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
October 30 2013 19:55 GMT
#2364
On October 31 2013 04:40 lethyl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 04:12 Fazers wrote:
Can you only get perfect IV through breeding?
For EV training, all you need to do is activate super training? :3

Sorry, I have absolutely no idea how this works so explanations would be very much appreciated!


super training sucks so hard for EV training, hordes is 100x faster, remember to get the power item from battle maison ( or a friend)


How long does it take you for Hordes? using the vitamins(i'm rich anyways) , then finishing off with super training has been really quick for me.

Hordes have not been as efficient(I don't have Pokerus though)
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
lethyl
Profile Joined March 2010
United States207 Posts
October 30 2013 20:03 GMT
#2365
oh if you need the plague, just holla at someone i'm sure they'll have it, or ask me, you get +50 per stat if you have pokerus + power item so you can max out one in 5-6 turns
~
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
October 30 2013 20:05 GMT
#2366
On October 31 2013 04:53 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:12 ReketSomething wrote:
I just googled around and got 20% boost. STrong Jaw and Mega Launcher are 50%

does that mean 20/50% increase on the moves base damage or the attack stat? knowing strong jaw is 50% makes that one pokemon look quite a bit scarier

The issue is that he doesn't get STAB in any bite attacks, so it's not as OP as it looks. It's not better than Protean, since they both give the same boost and Protean isn't limited to bites. And Mega Laucher only gets STAB with Pulse, a 60 damage attack.
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 30 2013 20:06 GMT
#2367
On October 31 2013 04:53 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 03:12 ReketSomething wrote:
I just googled around and got 20% boost. STrong Jaw and Mega Launcher are 50%

does that mean 20/50% increase on the moves base damage or the attack stat? knowing strong jaw is 50% makes that one pokemon look quite a bit scarier

Those abilities change their respective moves' base damage, not the user's attacking stat. While it's a sizable increase, Tyrantrum only gets that bonus from Crunch and the weak elemental fangs. I'd honestly rather have Rock Head so it can spam Head Smash without fear of ridiculous recoil.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
736 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 20:09:01
October 30 2013 20:08 GMT
#2368
On October 31 2013 04:40 lethyl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 04:12 Fazers wrote:
Can you only get perfect IV through breeding?
For EV training, all you need to do is activate super training? :3

Sorry, I have absolutely no idea how this works so explanations would be very much appreciated!


super training sucks so hard for EV training, hordes is 100x faster, remember to get the power item from battle maison ( or a friend)

What's "hordes" lol sorry, like I said I am not familiar to this concept.

By hordes do you mean when you encounter 5 wild Pokemon? Why is that faster than super training?
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
October 30 2013 20:09 GMT
#2369
On October 31 2013 05:08 Fazers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 04:40 lethyl wrote:
On October 31 2013 04:12 Fazers wrote:
Can you only get perfect IV through breeding?
For EV training, all you need to do is activate super training? :3

Sorry, I have absolutely no idea how this works so explanations would be very much appreciated!


super training sucks so hard for EV training, hordes is 100x faster, remember to get the power item from battle maison ( or a friend)

What's "hordes" lol sorry, like I said I am not familiar to this concept.


Hordes are those battles where you face multiple underleved wild pokemon. You can force them with a couple of items to EV train, since you easily kill 5 enemies at a time.
lethyl
Profile Joined March 2010
United States207 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 20:10:06
October 30 2013 20:09 GMT
#2370
On October 31 2013 05:08 Fazers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 04:40 lethyl wrote:
On October 31 2013 04:12 Fazers wrote:
Can you only get perfect IV through breeding?
For EV training, all you need to do is activate super training? :3

Sorry, I have absolutely no idea how this works so explanations would be very much appreciated!


super training sucks so hard for EV training, hordes is 100x faster, remember to get the power item from battle maison ( or a friend)

What's "hordes" lol sorry, like I said I am not familiar to this concept.



if you have a pokemon with sweet scent (combee,roselia,mawile, etc) you can get 5 pokemon instead of the normal 1, or you can use honey, did you not get there in the story yet or did you just mash buttons and skipped it?

EDIT: motherfuckin got ninja'd
~
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 20:12:25
October 30 2013 20:11 GMT
#2371
On October 31 2013 05:08 Fazers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 04:40 lethyl wrote:
On October 31 2013 04:12 Fazers wrote:
Can you only get perfect IV through breeding?
For EV training, all you need to do is activate super training? :3

Sorry, I have absolutely no idea how this works so explanations would be very much appreciated!


super training sucks so hard for EV training, hordes is 100x faster, remember to get the power item from battle maison ( or a friend)

What's "hordes" lol sorry, like I said I am not familiar to this concept.

Horde Battles are battles where you face 5 Pokémon at once, usually all the same species. This only happens with wild Pokémon as a fairly rare occurrence, but their levels are reduced drastically compared to normal 1v1 wild battles in that area, so you're not immediately stomped by 5 attacks in a row. Pokémon found in hordes sometimes have a special, hidden ability that you can't otherwise get.

Since hordes usually have 5 of the same species, you can easily and quickly EV train on hordes whose Pokémon give the EVs you want.

Edit: Typing on a phone is so slow. :/
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
736 Posts
October 30 2013 20:12 GMT
#2372
On October 31 2013 05:09 lethyl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 05:08 Fazers wrote:
On October 31 2013 04:40 lethyl wrote:
On October 31 2013 04:12 Fazers wrote:
Can you only get perfect IV through breeding?
For EV training, all you need to do is activate super training? :3

Sorry, I have absolutely no idea how this works so explanations would be very much appreciated!


super training sucks so hard for EV training, hordes is 100x faster, remember to get the power item from battle maison ( or a friend)

What's "hordes" lol sorry, like I said I am not familiar to this concept.



if you have a pokemon with sweet scent (combee,roselia,mawile, etc) you can get 5 pokemon instead of the normal 1, or you can use honey, did you not get there in the story yet or did you just mash buttons and skipped it?

EDIT: motherfuckin got ninja'd

No, I already beat the game and I do have honey. I edited my post by the way, so I was correct. I was just unsure of how hordes are better for EV training. My guess would have to be that by defeating more pokemon at once, it's faster? I've been fucking around in Battle Maison so I'll take a look at the Power items as well. Thanks for the tip!
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 20:15:45
October 30 2013 20:13 GMT
#2373
Hordes can be faster because you get a specific amount of EVs (1 or 2 for pokemon avaible in hordes) for each kill, plus the power items, and that's all doubled if your pokemon carries the pokerus, so you can get like 50 EV after a single battle.
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 30 2013 20:23 GMT
#2374
Example: Killing a murkrow horde with one rock slide = (1 speed EV + 4 EVs from power item)*5 murkrows * 2 from pokerus = 50 total EVs from one battle, one attack. You can max out your EVs in 10 minutes or less.
Writer:o
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 20:27:25
October 30 2013 20:26 GMT
#2375
Don't forget also that you should pretty much start with 100/100 EVs from Vitamins (and there's pretty much no excuse to not use Vitamins given how dirt cheap things are with Bargain power compared to the amount of money you get in this game). 10 minutes is already "slow".
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Fazers
Profile Joined August 2013
736 Posts
October 30 2013 20:29 GMT
#2376
On October 31 2013 05:23 Kiett wrote:
Example: Killing a murkrow horde with one rock slide = (1 speed EV + 4 EVs from power item)*5 murkrows * 2 from pokerus = 50 total EVs from one battle, one attack. You can max out your EVs in 10 minutes or less.

Thank you so much~ I learned something new today!
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-30 20:32:30
October 30 2013 20:31 GMT
#2377
Pokemon really needs to fix the berry shit in Z. If I want to make mulch, don't ask me each time for another berry, just let me choose three berries at the same time. And maybe put hordes of bugs in bushes as well, that'd be really cool.
Also about berries, I can water multiple plants by moving, why can't I do that for weeds. Like, what was the reasoning?
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 30 2013 20:44 GMT
#2378
On October 31 2013 05:26 TheYango wrote:
Don't forget also that you should pretty much start with 100/100 EVs from Vitamins (and there's pretty much no excuse to not use Vitamins given how dirt cheap things are with Bargain power compared to the amount of money you get in this game). 10 minutes is already "slow".

Please. I have more important things to buy. Like Clothes. Bargain power doesn't work on those
I thought I had completely bought out lumiose boutique, but then today they just restocked with more cute colors. Gotta farm up another 800 grand.
Writer:o
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
October 30 2013 20:47 GMT
#2379
On October 31 2013 05:44 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 05:26 TheYango wrote:
Don't forget also that you should pretty much start with 100/100 EVs from Vitamins (and there's pretty much no excuse to not use Vitamins given how dirt cheap things are with Bargain power compared to the amount of money you get in this game). 10 minutes is already "slow".

Please. I have more important things to buy. Like Clothes. Bargain power doesn't work on those
I thought I had completely bought out lumiose boutique, but then today they just restocked with more cute colors. Gotta farm up another 800 grand.

Me too! I don't even know where to buy Vitamins anyways haha. So far it's Kiett, Milkis, and me who care for clothes, everyone else is 100% pokemon zz

Ah need to breed a ton more later when not busy.
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 30 2013 20:49 GMT
#2380
I somehow bought the most ridiculous outfit on my playthrough without realizing it so never needed to buy new clothes. Unless you guys know anything that looks funkier then the lime green shoes, the racecar blue pants, pink v-neck, and fedora.

vitamins b in laverre
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