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Sanl3`
Profile Joined October 2013
Philippines11 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-28 03:44:08
October 27 2013 06:46 GMT
#2161
FC: 2294-4748-2111
Digitalis
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1043 Posts
October 27 2013 08:12 GMT
#2162
Does anyone have Eevee's with wish on them :3?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 27 2013 08:28 GMT
#2163
On October 27 2013 15:03 Xinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 13:55 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:09 Xinder wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:04 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:10 Xinder wrote:
Ok so here's what I'm thinking for a team.
Scolipede
Chansey(eviolite)
Lucario(Mega)
Aegislash
Espeon
Tyranitar OR Gyrados

Any thoughts on if it could work? Lucario would be the phys sweeper to hopefully crush people. Scolipede to set up stuff and baton pass his speed. Chansey for the heals. Aegislash to tank and dish out some dmg. Espeon because of Magic Bounce. Tyranitar or Gyrados can't decide, but both would maybe trick opponents into thinking they're they ones holding the megastone. Plus they don't care about fire, unlike most of my steel team.

do you want to run full baton or just single passes?
because with single passes you need bulky receivers that cover each other's weaknesses so you can always pass
for example, with dragonite + lucario or gyarados + lucario you can generally always pass to one of them, tank a hit, and start sweeping
with full baton you need a very specific team comp


Ok so Gyarados and Lucario would probably be my pick. I like Gyarados as a pokemon and I have been in love with Lucario since I got him during my playthrough. Such a cool Mega Evolution too. So in this instance I still have Scolipede as my baton passer but I pass to either Gyrados or Lucario depending on who they send out?

yeah, because generally you'll have tank a hit on the baton before you can start sweeping

if you're going to do that you probably don't want to bother with espeon. espeon is generally run on full baton teams; without a lot of boosts espeon's not that good

other than scolipede/gyarados/scolipede you need 3 support/utility pokemon. ideally you want them to cover your bases defensively and lure out and wear down physically defensive walls like skarmory, slowbro, gliscor, etc. one of them should also be able to set out stealth rocks to make your sweep easier


Ok scolipede/gyrados/lucario. How about Gigalith or Crustle as a stealth rock user? I prob want someone with aromatherapy or heal bell. So Chansey/Blissey/Someone else?? Then do I need a spinner of my own? If I run chansey/blissey I prob want a spinner right?

gigalith and crustle aren't that good, their typing is weak defensively and they don't have a great support movepool
you want pokemon that lay rocks and do useful things. for example mamo, garchomp, heatran, ferrothorn, ttar, etc lay rocks and are useful both offensively and defensively.

you don't need aromatherapy or heal bell on an offensive team, just make sure you have something to eat twave and willowisp. toxic shouldn't be an issue. also you should probably be running lum on gyarados anyway. you probably won't need a spinner either, since you shouldn't be switching very often with so many setup sweepers
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
October 27 2013 08:37 GMT
#2164
Finally got a perfect Togepi!

Not sure what I want to breed next
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
October 27 2013 08:42 GMT
#2165
On October 27 2013 17:37 rebdomine wrote:
Finally got a perfect Togepi!

Not sure what I want to breed next


Congrats on the perfect pokemon :D. I too have no clue what to breed .
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
Xinder
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2269 Posts
October 27 2013 09:03 GMT
#2166
On October 27 2013 17:28 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 15:03 Xinder wrote:
On October 27 2013 13:55 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:09 Xinder wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:04 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:10 Xinder wrote:
Ok so here's what I'm thinking for a team.
Scolipede
Chansey(eviolite)
Lucario(Mega)
Aegislash
Espeon
Tyranitar OR Gyrados

Any thoughts on if it could work? Lucario would be the phys sweeper to hopefully crush people. Scolipede to set up stuff and baton pass his speed. Chansey for the heals. Aegislash to tank and dish out some dmg. Espeon because of Magic Bounce. Tyranitar or Gyrados can't decide, but both would maybe trick opponents into thinking they're they ones holding the megastone. Plus they don't care about fire, unlike most of my steel team.

do you want to run full baton or just single passes?
because with single passes you need bulky receivers that cover each other's weaknesses so you can always pass
for example, with dragonite + lucario or gyarados + lucario you can generally always pass to one of them, tank a hit, and start sweeping
with full baton you need a very specific team comp


Ok so Gyarados and Lucario would probably be my pick. I like Gyarados as a pokemon and I have been in love with Lucario since I got him during my playthrough. Such a cool Mega Evolution too. So in this instance I still have Scolipede as my baton passer but I pass to either Gyrados or Lucario depending on who they send out?

yeah, because generally you'll have tank a hit on the baton before you can start sweeping

if you're going to do that you probably don't want to bother with espeon. espeon is generally run on full baton teams; without a lot of boosts espeon's not that good

other than scolipede/gyarados/scolipede you need 3 support/utility pokemon. ideally you want them to cover your bases defensively and lure out and wear down physically defensive walls like skarmory, slowbro, gliscor, etc. one of them should also be able to set out stealth rocks to make your sweep easier


Ok scolipede/gyrados/lucario. How about Gigalith or Crustle as a stealth rock user? I prob want someone with aromatherapy or heal bell. So Chansey/Blissey/Someone else?? Then do I need a spinner of my own? If I run chansey/blissey I prob want a spinner right?

gigalith and crustle aren't that good, their typing is weak defensively and they don't have a great support movepool
you want pokemon that lay rocks and do useful things. for example mamo, garchomp, heatran, ferrothorn, ttar, etc lay rocks and are useful both offensively and defensively.

you don't need aromatherapy or heal bell on an offensive team, just make sure you have something to eat twave and willowisp. toxic shouldn't be an issue. also you should probably be running lum on gyarados anyway. you probably won't need a spinner either, since you shouldn't be switching very often with so many setup sweepers


Ok so the only stealth rock user available in XY is ferrothorn right? Like Tyranitar can't learn it except from Gen 5. Heatran isn't in XY yet Garchomp can't get it that I can find how. And Mamoswine can't learn it either like Tyranitar. I am trying to come up with an XY only team cause I don't play on the pokebank battle thing.

I guess Heat Rotom to eat Twave and wilowisp. Still could use a 6th...this team creating thing is hard lol. I haven't even started breeding yet.
"Daaayyyy9, King Pussyfoot of NinnyVille"- Day9 while playing Amnesia
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
October 27 2013 09:26 GMT
#2167
Tyranitar can learn it if you breed a Tyrunt/Tyrantrum that knows it I think.

Actually, I think that's what I'll breed next cause someone else was looking for it here.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 09:40:26
October 27 2013 09:38 GMT
#2168
Omg, i finished EV training a perfect Blaziken but while leveling I realized he didn't have speed boost. TT I then looked into my reject pile and saw 80% of them had speed boost. To make things worse I never managed to breed a 4IV female since they are so rare.

Well this is what I get for being a scumbag and wanting to run Blaziken...

edit: I would like a TRex reject if you are making them :p
Jaedong :3
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
October 27 2013 09:52 GMT
#2169
I might just try to put the move on a Larvitar without stressing out on IVs too much. Not really too keen on running a Ttar on my team (or at least not yet)
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
October 27 2013 11:40 GMT
#2170
On October 27 2013 18:03 Xinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 17:28 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 15:03 Xinder wrote:
On October 27 2013 13:55 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:09 Xinder wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:04 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:10 Xinder wrote:
Ok so here's what I'm thinking for a team.
Scolipede
Chansey(eviolite)
Lucario(Mega)
Aegislash
Espeon
Tyranitar OR Gyrados

Any thoughts on if it could work? Lucario would be the phys sweeper to hopefully crush people. Scolipede to set up stuff and baton pass his speed. Chansey for the heals. Aegislash to tank and dish out some dmg. Espeon because of Magic Bounce. Tyranitar or Gyrados can't decide, but both would maybe trick opponents into thinking they're they ones holding the megastone. Plus they don't care about fire, unlike most of my steel team.

do you want to run full baton or just single passes?
because with single passes you need bulky receivers that cover each other's weaknesses so you can always pass
for example, with dragonite + lucario or gyarados + lucario you can generally always pass to one of them, tank a hit, and start sweeping
with full baton you need a very specific team comp


Ok so Gyarados and Lucario would probably be my pick. I like Gyarados as a pokemon and I have been in love with Lucario since I got him during my playthrough. Such a cool Mega Evolution too. So in this instance I still have Scolipede as my baton passer but I pass to either Gyrados or Lucario depending on who they send out?

yeah, because generally you'll have tank a hit on the baton before you can start sweeping

if you're going to do that you probably don't want to bother with espeon. espeon is generally run on full baton teams; without a lot of boosts espeon's not that good

other than scolipede/gyarados/scolipede you need 3 support/utility pokemon. ideally you want them to cover your bases defensively and lure out and wear down physically defensive walls like skarmory, slowbro, gliscor, etc. one of them should also be able to set out stealth rocks to make your sweep easier


Ok scolipede/gyrados/lucario. How about Gigalith or Crustle as a stealth rock user? I prob want someone with aromatherapy or heal bell. So Chansey/Blissey/Someone else?? Then do I need a spinner of my own? If I run chansey/blissey I prob want a spinner right?

gigalith and crustle aren't that good, their typing is weak defensively and they don't have a great support movepool
you want pokemon that lay rocks and do useful things. for example mamo, garchomp, heatran, ferrothorn, ttar, etc lay rocks and are useful both offensively and defensively.

you don't need aromatherapy or heal bell on an offensive team, just make sure you have something to eat twave and willowisp. toxic shouldn't be an issue. also you should probably be running lum on gyarados anyway. you probably won't need a spinner either, since you shouldn't be switching very often with so many setup sweepers


Ok so the only stealth rock user available in XY is ferrothorn right? Like Tyranitar can't learn it except from Gen 5. Heatran isn't in XY yet Garchomp can't get it that I can find how. And Mamoswine can't learn it either like Tyranitar. I am trying to come up with an XY only team cause I don't play on the pokebank battle thing.

I guess Heat Rotom to eat Twave and wilowisp. Still could use a 6th...this team creating thing is hard lol. I haven't even started breeding yet.

oh rocks was a tm in dp so it was really easy to get. you'd just stick it on like nidoking and breed it to w.e you wanted. i haven't played cartridge since dp lol

ttar can probably get rocks via tyrantrum. garchomp probably can as well
mamoswine might require some roundabout breeding, tyrantrum -> nidoking -> mamo or something
there's a ton of other options for reliable rock setters, some of them might be pretty hard to get though. skarm, bronzong, forretress, etc are more defensive options, azelf, aerodactyl, terrakion, etc are more offensive options

smogon has a nice little article on hazards; it doesn't cover all the setters and it's a little outdated but it's still a nice read
http://www.smogon.com/bw/articles/ou_hazards

i'd recommend you test out your teams online before breeding. not sure how much easier it is in xy but breeding in dp was impossible

by eating twave and wow i mean they just need to not be affected by it. for example on my team i run rotom-w and alakazam to eat will-o-wisp and rotom-w and scizor to eat twave. rotom-w doesn't mind being burned too badly; it chips away at his hp which is sometimes bad (against pokes i need him to wall like scizor and aegislash) but against most teams it's not that big of a deal. alakazam's immune to burn/toxic damage due to magic guard. scizor doesn't mind twave too much since he's already so slow. paralyze freezes are annoying sometimes but it prevents him from being burned so it's not too bad
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
October 27 2013 14:14 GMT
#2171
I just realized. Now that Sandstorm only lasts a maximum of eight turns, I no longer have the option to abuse level 1 Shell Bell Endeavor Aron. What a shame. :/
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
October 27 2013 14:40 GMT
#2172
For folks who need help with getting egg moves on certain Pokemon, I think: http://www.reddit.com/r/breedingbad/ might be a good place.

A friend tried it out and said he started a breeding chain from an egg move.

And I think pokemon people wanted (Stealth Rock Larvitar) are being posted over there.
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
October 27 2013 15:15 GMT
#2173
On October 27 2013 23:14 Archas wrote:
I just realized. Now that Sandstorm only lasts a maximum of eight turns, I no longer have the option to abuse level 1 Shell Bell Endeavor Aron. What a shame. :/


Prankster rilou may still be available from the gimmick side of play. Also FEAR probably won't be going anywhere
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 27 2013 15:38 GMT
#2174
On October 27 2013 17:28 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 15:03 Xinder wrote:
On October 27 2013 13:55 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:09 Xinder wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:04 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:10 Xinder wrote:
Ok so here's what I'm thinking for a team.
Scolipede
Chansey(eviolite)
Lucario(Mega)
Aegislash
Espeon
Tyranitar OR Gyrados

Any thoughts on if it could work? Lucario would be the phys sweeper to hopefully crush people. Scolipede to set up stuff and baton pass his speed. Chansey for the heals. Aegislash to tank and dish out some dmg. Espeon because of Magic Bounce. Tyranitar or Gyrados can't decide, but both would maybe trick opponents into thinking they're they ones holding the megastone. Plus they don't care about fire, unlike most of my steel team.

do you want to run full baton or just single passes?
because with single passes you need bulky receivers that cover each other's weaknesses so you can always pass
for example, with dragonite + lucario or gyarados + lucario you can generally always pass to one of them, tank a hit, and start sweeping
with full baton you need a very specific team comp


Ok so Gyarados and Lucario would probably be my pick. I like Gyarados as a pokemon and I have been in love with Lucario since I got him during my playthrough. Such a cool Mega Evolution too. So in this instance I still have Scolipede as my baton passer but I pass to either Gyrados or Lucario depending on who they send out?

yeah, because generally you'll have tank a hit on the baton before you can start sweeping

if you're going to do that you probably don't want to bother with espeon. espeon is generally run on full baton teams; without a lot of boosts espeon's not that good

other than scolipede/gyarados/scolipede you need 3 support/utility pokemon. ideally you want them to cover your bases defensively and lure out and wear down physically defensive walls like skarmory, slowbro, gliscor, etc. one of them should also be able to set out stealth rocks to make your sweep easier


Ok scolipede/gyrados/lucario. How about Gigalith or Crustle as a stealth rock user? I prob want someone with aromatherapy or heal bell. So Chansey/Blissey/Someone else?? Then do I need a spinner of my own? If I run chansey/blissey I prob want a spinner right?

gigalith and crustle aren't that good, their typing is weak defensively and they don't have a great support movepool
you want pokemon that lay rocks and do useful things. for example mamo, garchomp, heatran, ferrothorn, ttar, etc lay rocks and are useful both offensively and defensively.

you don't need aromatherapy or heal bell on an offensive team, just make sure you have something to eat twave and willowisp. toxic shouldn't be an issue. also you should probably be running lum on gyarados anyway. you probably won't need a spinner either, since you shouldn't be switching very often with so many setup sweepers

what suddenly made scolipede a sweeper? wasnt he pretty bad last gen?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-27 15:41:21
October 27 2013 15:40 GMT
#2175
On October 28 2013 00:38 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 17:28 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 15:03 Xinder wrote:
On October 27 2013 13:55 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:09 Xinder wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:04 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:10 Xinder wrote:
Ok so here's what I'm thinking for a team.
Scolipede
Chansey(eviolite)
Lucario(Mega)
Aegislash
Espeon
Tyranitar OR Gyrados

Any thoughts on if it could work? Lucario would be the phys sweeper to hopefully crush people. Scolipede to set up stuff and baton pass his speed. Chansey for the heals. Aegislash to tank and dish out some dmg. Espeon because of Magic Bounce. Tyranitar or Gyrados can't decide, but both would maybe trick opponents into thinking they're they ones holding the megastone. Plus they don't care about fire, unlike most of my steel team.

do you want to run full baton or just single passes?
because with single passes you need bulky receivers that cover each other's weaknesses so you can always pass
for example, with dragonite + lucario or gyarados + lucario you can generally always pass to one of them, tank a hit, and start sweeping
with full baton you need a very specific team comp


Ok so Gyarados and Lucario would probably be my pick. I like Gyarados as a pokemon and I have been in love with Lucario since I got him during my playthrough. Such a cool Mega Evolution too. So in this instance I still have Scolipede as my baton passer but I pass to either Gyrados or Lucario depending on who they send out?

yeah, because generally you'll have tank a hit on the baton before you can start sweeping

if you're going to do that you probably don't want to bother with espeon. espeon is generally run on full baton teams; without a lot of boosts espeon's not that good

other than scolipede/gyarados/scolipede you need 3 support/utility pokemon. ideally you want them to cover your bases defensively and lure out and wear down physically defensive walls like skarmory, slowbro, gliscor, etc. one of them should also be able to set out stealth rocks to make your sweep easier


Ok scolipede/gyrados/lucario. How about Gigalith or Crustle as a stealth rock user? I prob want someone with aromatherapy or heal bell. So Chansey/Blissey/Someone else?? Then do I need a spinner of my own? If I run chansey/blissey I prob want a spinner right?

gigalith and crustle aren't that good, their typing is weak defensively and they don't have a great support movepool
you want pokemon that lay rocks and do useful things. for example mamo, garchomp, heatran, ferrothorn, ttar, etc lay rocks and are useful both offensively and defensively.

you don't need aromatherapy or heal bell on an offensive team, just make sure you have something to eat twave and willowisp. toxic shouldn't be an issue. also you should probably be running lum on gyarados anyway. you probably won't need a spinner either, since you shouldn't be switching very often with so many setup sweepers

what suddenly made scolipede a sweeper? wasnt he pretty bad last gen?

Scolipede got buffed Attack and the Speed Boost ability, along with a now-viable Poison STAB that also gives it resistance to Fairy on top of its existing resistances.
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
Sanl3`
Profile Joined October 2013
Philippines11 Posts
October 27 2013 15:47 GMT
#2176
Hi, does anyone have ditto in their friend safari? I'd love to get into breeding right about now : )
FC: 2294-4748-2111
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
October 27 2013 16:24 GMT
#2177
entry hazards are barely used in the current competitive formats. You would think 4x weakness to stealth rocks would deter talonflame, but it still remains the most popular pokemon currently played. Simply put, the setup turn is a free turn you gave to your opponent, and since the game is so fast paced, there are much fewer turns than that of say the smogon ou metagame, which makes each turn's value that much more significant. This is the reason why you don't see any team in vgc use hazards, since the pace is also signficantly faster in doubles.
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
lethyl
Profile Joined March 2010
United States207 Posts
October 27 2013 17:00 GMT
#2178
woohoo just bred an adament marill with huge power with 6 iv's
~
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
October 27 2013 17:50 GMT
#2179
On October 28 2013 02:00 lethyl wrote:
woohoo just bred an adament marill with huge power with 6 iv's

did you remember to get the egg move aquajet?
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
October 27 2013 18:26 GMT
#2180
On October 27 2013 18:03 Xinder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2013 17:28 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 15:03 Xinder wrote:
On October 27 2013 13:55 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:09 Xinder wrote:
On October 27 2013 10:04 Dead9 wrote:
On October 27 2013 09:10 Xinder wrote:
Ok so here's what I'm thinking for a team.
Scolipede
Chansey(eviolite)
Lucario(Mega)
Aegislash
Espeon
Tyranitar OR Gyrados

Any thoughts on if it could work? Lucario would be the phys sweeper to hopefully crush people. Scolipede to set up stuff and baton pass his speed. Chansey for the heals. Aegislash to tank and dish out some dmg. Espeon because of Magic Bounce. Tyranitar or Gyrados can't decide, but both would maybe trick opponents into thinking they're they ones holding the megastone. Plus they don't care about fire, unlike most of my steel team.

do you want to run full baton or just single passes?
because with single passes you need bulky receivers that cover each other's weaknesses so you can always pass
for example, with dragonite + lucario or gyarados + lucario you can generally always pass to one of them, tank a hit, and start sweeping
with full baton you need a very specific team comp


Ok so Gyarados and Lucario would probably be my pick. I like Gyarados as a pokemon and I have been in love with Lucario since I got him during my playthrough. Such a cool Mega Evolution too. So in this instance I still have Scolipede as my baton passer but I pass to either Gyrados or Lucario depending on who they send out?

yeah, because generally you'll have tank a hit on the baton before you can start sweeping

if you're going to do that you probably don't want to bother with espeon. espeon is generally run on full baton teams; without a lot of boosts espeon's not that good

other than scolipede/gyarados/scolipede you need 3 support/utility pokemon. ideally you want them to cover your bases defensively and lure out and wear down physically defensive walls like skarmory, slowbro, gliscor, etc. one of them should also be able to set out stealth rocks to make your sweep easier


Ok scolipede/gyrados/lucario. How about Gigalith or Crustle as a stealth rock user? I prob want someone with aromatherapy or heal bell. So Chansey/Blissey/Someone else?? Then do I need a spinner of my own? If I run chansey/blissey I prob want a spinner right?

gigalith and crustle aren't that good, their typing is weak defensively and they don't have a great support movepool
you want pokemon that lay rocks and do useful things. for example mamo, garchomp, heatran, ferrothorn, ttar, etc lay rocks and are useful both offensively and defensively.

you don't need aromatherapy or heal bell on an offensive team, just make sure you have something to eat twave and willowisp. toxic shouldn't be an issue. also you should probably be running lum on gyarados anyway. you probably won't need a spinner either, since you shouldn't be switching very often with so many setup sweepers


Ok so the only stealth rock user available in XY is ferrothorn right? Like Tyranitar can't learn it except from Gen 5. Heatran isn't in XY yet Garchomp can't get it that I can find how. And Mamoswine can't learn it either like Tyranitar. I am trying to come up with an XY only team cause I don't play on the pokebank battle thing.

I guess Heat Rotom to eat Twave and wilowisp. Still could use a 6th...this team creating thing is hard lol. I haven't even started breeding yet.


Tyrunt can learn it too, infact he comes with the move alrdy known. He's the fossil pokemon you get when you choose the Jaw fossil.
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