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I know someone who has been playing the game for a fair while, and though he seems to at least be content with it (I personally feel he has low standards for MMO's), it is incredibly buggy. Going into battlegrounds has resulted in many of his items just being flat out deleted for some reason, rendering issues that persisted from beta (terrain/people just vanishing for no reason), considerable server issues (some of which result in weird server selection windows appearing with no options - we just presume they are remnants from the game's alpha), significant repeating issues with the Arkfalls (think rifts from Rift but more likely to spawn in places you can't interact with them in), doing certain Arkfalls resets your Arkfall counter, weapon issues, vehicle issues, etc. Like most games, it is extremely untested and incomplete. Arkfall contribution/rewarding is also entirely fucked up.
I was in the beta, and to me it felt like a very cheap Tabula Rasa clone without any of the attraction. Same generic quest system that has been done to death, uninteresting enemies, unintelligent AI, empty world. They have random quest/event-like instanced things here and there to kind of fake having a real world, but to me Guild Wars 2 events are like the bare minimum I expect from a game world today, and those were too small scale, easy and boring to be of note.
The game has no way to disable sensitivity-based mic... except blocking the player. We reported this in beta. It's still annoying people to this day.
I'm a very hard man to please when it comes to games, especially RPG's (the last decent RPG anything I played had to be BG2, I find the generic quest system these games use horribly boring), but this MMO in particular came off as a huge cash grab; I have no real idea what they are trying to do with the TV series, though. Rift was considerably more interesting as a game world in general; it rewarded exploration with artifacts and puzzles. Defiance blocks everything off the beaten path that they thought of (re: not enough to stop me) with invisible walls.
Animations were dull and rigid, just like Rift. Jumping comes off as incredibly goofy and floaty. Bear Mcreary did the soundtrack but it's incomparable to his SOCOM 4 or Dark Void soundtracks. Rode the wub wub fad a little too hard, destroyed the soundtrack's potential.
Just my thoughts from my admittedly limited experience and extended conversations. This game was not ready for beta when I played it.
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I'm playing with it and enjoying it a bit. The first week or so was a wash because of all the technical difficulties and server troubles. Once they released the 1.1 patch almost all of those went away with a few exceptions but for the most part its pretty smooth. Graphics are better then the competitors in the market with a lot of cod graphics in it but with blue being used in a lot of different spots so it isn't a gray and brown mess. It doesn't really have anything special but it doesn't have anything bad either.
If I wasn't flush with cash I probably wouldn't buy it. Its a nice game and has a lot on it that you can do but I don't think that its got enough to make it a 60 buck game. I don't see anyone complaining about any real problems they have with it if that helps.
Judgeing a game based on your beta experience with it is pretty stupid.
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On April 19 2013 05:26 floor exercise wrote:
TB did a thing on it, but it honestly sounds like he's been paid to say anything but "it sucks"
Lol at your dumb accusation
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Nothing personal. I don't think anyone in the video game media industry is particularly credible and your channel is now a major source of information (and I would say reviews but you'd tell me you don't do them). I think at some point (the PS2 marketing) it's pretty fair to say you're deeply ingrained in the industry. To not view your videos with the same scepticism I view all other video game media would be dumber than to assume developers are ignorant of your influence, wouldn't you think?
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iirc tb said its quite fun but a bit empty
just watched the pilot , it was pretty cool , i urge everyone to watch it. its a real scifi
only bits that annoyed me were right at the end where the pacing just decided to give in altogether. and i would have liked it if they'd + Show Spoiler + left the town rather than end up living there -_-
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Northern Ireland1200 Posts
Just watched this and its terrible.This show had so much potential with this storyline, however all the cringy lines and scenes are just god awful. Little things like the main guy constantly moving steering wheel left and right when driving alone (come teh fuck on, seriously). Meanwhile the exchange of terrible try to make this character funny but utter fail lines. Also the whole attack thing has no substance at all. Some random aliens, attacking, and there is no context to who teh fuck they are. Just," oh we are all gonna die".
And the whole doc thing making the ball thing into some sort of weapon. LOL. It was like a child was having fun when the made that up. So stupid and no possible conceptual realism to it at all.
I am sorry, but this just wasted my evening. I gave it a chance, but was hugely dissapointed. I cannot see this lasting long.
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On April 21 2013 17:28 Chewits wrote:
Just watched this and its terrible.This show had so much potential with this storyline, however all the cringy lines and scenes are just god awful. Little things like the main guy constantly moving steering wheel left and right when driving alone (come teh fuck on, seriously). Meanwhile the exchange of terrible try to make this character funny but utter fail lines. Also the whole attack thing has no substance at all. Some random aliens, attacking, and there is no context to who teh fuck they are. Just," oh we are all gonna die".
And the whole doc thing making the ball thing into some sort of weapon. LOL. It was like a child was having fun when the made that up. So stupid and no possible conceptual realism to it at all.
I am sorry, but this just wasted my evening. I gave it a chance, but was hugely dissapointed. I cannot see this lasting long.
there is no context because TEHY STILL DONT KNOW why they attacked them ... lol
also play the game and you know more then you need ^^ ofc you dont know all if you onywatch the series
series is GREAT
game is fun
so to all, dont listen to him, he seems to hate scifi overall, if you like scifi you will like it !
ps;: there is context, you can know who the aliens are, realism in a terraformed world in the future ? go watch crime ^^ seems he hated series before watched it and so he was like "this is shit this is shit this too this here too ..."
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what i didnt understand and u just reminded me
+ Show Spoiler +
at the start when the man confronts the kid while theyre playing cards
his "best man" gets shot and killed
who actually killed him?
i thought the man/father had killed him. then they are all like "oh hes dead its a real shame". then they just carry on as normal. i was like "omg the father man is evil and should be brought to justice, he just got his man killed due to his rage, and the mayor woman nor anyone else seems to care"
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On April 21 2013 17:39 CoR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 17:28 Chewits wrote:
Just watched this and its terrible.This show had so much potential with this storyline, however all the cringy lines and scenes are just god awful. Little things like the main guy constantly moving steering wheel left and right when driving alone (come teh fuck on, seriously). Meanwhile the exchange of terrible try to make this character funny but utter fail lines. Also the whole attack thing has no substance at all. Some random aliens, attacking, and there is no context to who teh fuck they are. Just," oh we are all gonna die".
And the whole doc thing making the ball thing into some sort of weapon. LOL. It was like a child was having fun when the made that up. So stupid and no possible conceptual realism to it at all.
I am sorry, but this just wasted my evening. I gave it a chance, but was hugely dissapointed. I cannot see this lasting long.
there is no context because TEHY STILL DONT KNOW why they attacked them ... lol also play the game and you know more then you need ^^ ofc you dont know all if you onywatch the series series is GREAT game is fun so to all, dont listen to him, he seems to hate scifi overall, if you like scifi you will like it ! ps;: there is context, you can know who the aliens are, realism in a terraformed world in the future ? go watch crime ^^ seems he hated series before watched it and so he was like "this is shit this is shit this too this here too ..." no. It pretty bad SF. And if the show requires that you play the game to like the show it is a really bad show.
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Northern Ireland1200 Posts
On April 21 2013 17:39 CoR wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 17:28 Chewits wrote:
Just watched this and its terrible.This show had so much potential with this storyline, however all the cringy lines and scenes are just god awful. Little things like the main guy constantly moving steering wheel left and right when driving alone (come teh fuck on, seriously). Meanwhile the exchange of terrible try to make this character funny but utter fail lines. Also the whole attack thing has no substance at all. Some random aliens, attacking, and there is no context to who teh fuck they are. Just," oh we are all gonna die".
And the whole doc thing making the ball thing into some sort of weapon. LOL. It was like a child was having fun when the made that up. So stupid and no possible conceptual realism to it at all.
I am sorry, but this just wasted my evening. I gave it a chance, but was hugely dissapointed. I cannot see this lasting long.
there is no context because TEHY STILL DONT KNOW why they attacked them ... lol also play the game and you know more then you need ^^ ofc you dont know all if you onywatch the series series is GREAT game is fun so to all, dont listen to him, he seems to hate scifi overall, if you like scifi you will like it ! ps;: there is context, you can know who the aliens are, realism in a terraformed world in the future ? go watch crime ^^ seems he hated series before watched it and so he was like "this is shit this is shit this too this here too ..."
You still have no idea who they are at all. They dont feel real to me at all. There is nothing other than "omg they are coming". I know its first episode, but it still sucks. Look at first episode of BSG. It has context as to what is going on.
I am a big SF fan. This just sucks. Sorry to burst your bubble.
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On April 22 2013 05:00 Chewits wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 17:39 CoR wrote:On April 21 2013 17:28 Chewits wrote:
Just watched this and its terrible.This show had so much potential with this storyline, however all the cringy lines and scenes are just god awful. Little things like the main guy constantly moving steering wheel left and right when driving alone (come teh fuck on, seriously). Meanwhile the exchange of terrible try to make this character funny but utter fail lines. Also the whole attack thing has no substance at all. Some random aliens, attacking, and there is no context to who teh fuck they are. Just," oh we are all gonna die".
And the whole doc thing making the ball thing into some sort of weapon. LOL. It was like a child was having fun when the made that up. So stupid and no possible conceptual realism to it at all.
I am sorry, but this just wasted my evening. I gave it a chance, but was hugely dissapointed. I cannot see this lasting long.
there is no context because TEHY STILL DONT KNOW why they attacked them ... lol also play the game and you know more then you need ^^ ofc you dont know all if you onywatch the series series is GREAT game is fun so to all, dont listen to him, he seems to hate scifi overall, if you like scifi you will like it ! ps;: there is context, you can know who the aliens are, realism in a terraformed world in the future ? go watch crime ^^ seems he hated series before watched it and so he was like "this is shit this is shit this too this here too ..." You still have no idea who they are at all. They dont feel real to me at all. There is nothing other than "omg they are coming". I know its first episode, but it still sucks. Look at first episode of BSG. It has context as to what is going on. I am a big SF fan. This just sucks. Sorry to burst your bubble.
You are making a big deal out of nothing. Did you even watch to the end scene? They are obviously hinting at a deeper conspiracy with the former major being involved with the attack. You don't have more context because they haven't given it to you yet. You can't say it has no substance when you don't know what kind of substance it actually have behind it.
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On April 19 2013 22:25 floor exercise wrote:
Nothing personal. I don't think anyone in the video game media industry is particularly credible and your channel is now a major source of information (and I would say reviews but you'd tell me you don't do them). I think at some point (the PS2 marketing) it's pretty fair to say you're deeply ingrained in the industry. To not view your videos with the same scepticism I view all other video game media would be dumber than to assume developers are ignorant of your influence, wouldn't you think?
Nothing personal with suggesting he's secretly payed to shill for the game? I've followed TB for years and he's always been up and front about content he's been payed to do as well as his regular rants against what you basically accused him of. And it's not dumb to suggest developers are aware of TB's influence, but it's fairly dumb to automatically assume that means TB is bought off by them. Not to mention that despite being payed to promote Planetside 2, he's critiqued it quite heavily, as he's stated was part of the agreement with them.
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On April 19 2013 22:25 floor exercise wrote:
Nothing personal. I don't think anyone in the video game media industry is particularly credible and your channel is now a major source of information (and I would say reviews but you'd tell me you don't do them). I think at some point (the PS2 marketing) it's pretty fair to say you're deeply ingrained in the industry. To not view your videos with the same scepticism I view all other video game media would be dumber than to assume developers are ignorant of your influence, wouldn't you think?
Think whatever you want but when you accuse me of being paid off in public I will slap you the fuck down, I have little patience for liars.
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On April 22 2013 06:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2013 22:25 floor exercise wrote:
Nothing personal. I don't think anyone in the video game media industry is particularly credible and your channel is now a major source of information (and I would say reviews but you'd tell me you don't do them). I think at some point (the PS2 marketing) it's pretty fair to say you're deeply ingrained in the industry. To not view your videos with the same scepticism I view all other video game media would be dumber than to assume developers are ignorant of your influence, wouldn't you think? Think whatever you want but when you accuse me of being paid off in public I will slap you the fuck down, I have little patience for liars.
Hey TB, love your channel. I will say that it would be nice to see a bit more criticism at times. Also, the guy you quoted does have a legitimate point, even though he may have not phrased it in the most palatable manner. Nobody is accusing you of anything; it is common sense to view all content created for profit purposes with a grain of salt as the content creator has to maintain sensitivities with respect to maximizing both short and long-term revenue potential.
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By the way, I have never played the game, nor have any intent to do so. However, I do like the show so far. It is "true" sci-fi, unlike a lot of other shows that just skirt the edges.
On April 22 2013 05:00 Chewits wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2013 17:39 CoR wrote:On April 21 2013 17:28 Chewits wrote:
Just watched this and its terrible.This show had so much potential with this storyline, however all the cringy lines and scenes are just god awful. Little things like the main guy constantly moving steering wheel left and right when driving alone (come teh fuck on, seriously). Meanwhile the exchange of terrible try to make this character funny but utter fail lines. Also the whole attack thing has no substance at all. Some random aliens, attacking, and there is no context to who teh fuck they are. Just," oh we are all gonna die".
And the whole doc thing making the ball thing into some sort of weapon. LOL. It was like a child was having fun when the made that up. So stupid and no possible conceptual realism to it at all.
I am sorry, but this just wasted my evening. I gave it a chance, but was hugely dissapointed. I cannot see this lasting long.
there is no context because TEHY STILL DONT KNOW why they attacked them ... lol also play the game and you know more then you need ^^ ofc you dont know all if you onywatch the series series is GREAT game is fun so to all, dont listen to him, he seems to hate scifi overall, if you like scifi you will like it ! ps;: there is context, you can know who the aliens are, realism in a terraformed world in the future ? go watch crime ^^ seems he hated series before watched it and so he was like "this is shit this is shit this too this here too ..." You still have no idea who they are at all. They dont feel real to me at all. There is nothing other than "omg they are coming". I know its first episode, but it still sucks. Look at first episode of BSG. It has context as to what is going on. I am a big SF fan. This just sucks. Sorry to burst your bubble.
You know, you could at least watch the entire episode before coming here and ranting about how much the plot sucks...
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Northern Ireland1200 Posts
I watched the whole episode...
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Honestly... Yes, the BSG reboot pilot was awesome, but we also already knew what the hell was going to happen.
I'll admit, the Defiance Pilot was a wee bit camp, but most pilots are, the second episode was far better I feel, and starts to bring out the nature of some of the people and the races as well as just how Fucked over the world became after terraforming/arcfall.
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On April 22 2013 05:08 nihlon wrote:
You don't have more context because they haven't given it to you yet. You can't say it has no substance when you don't know what kind of substance it actually have behind it.
That's not how pilots work....
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On April 22 2013 06:51 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Think whatever you want but when you accuse me of being paid off in public I will slap you the fuck down, I have little patience for liars.
Wow.....relax buddy.
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I tried it and watched three episodes. I really want to like this show, but I don't. No where in comparison to BSG or SGU. The characters are easily forgettable, the plot is kinda interesting, but the execution is bad. I really liked it at first when he was a Han Solo type guy, but now that the main character is this investigator, it completely takes away from any depth he could have had. The intro and beginning of the pilot were so interesting. The city itself was just boring. Anyone else watch this?
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