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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14116 Posts
April 17 2013 00:55 GMT
#41
They put 100 million into this and the game for 1 season worth of content. Its not low budget at all.

It also bagged 1.3 mill in the 19-49 which makes it the best premiere the network has gotten in 7 years. hopefully it stays for a while and makes real sci fi a thing again.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Ympulse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States287 Posts
April 17 2013 01:01 GMT
#42
On April 17 2013 09:55 Sermokala wrote:
They put 100 million into this and the game for 1 season worth of content. Its not low budget at all.

And yet it still feels like a generic clone of something.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14116 Posts
April 17 2013 01:58 GMT
#43
Everything is a generic clone of something. I don't see your point.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Maxyim
Profile Joined March 2012
430 Posts
April 17 2013 02:16 GMT
#44
The fact that this is a thread on TL with 42 posts makes me feel very uneasy at the 100 million investment.

Well, 43 posts now, but you get my point... Sup SWTOR?
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
April 17 2013 02:56 GMT
#45
watching this, all i could think was being sent back to the 90s with these generic humanoid alien tv shows.
starleague forever
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14116 Posts
April 17 2013 03:11 GMT
#46
swtor was a 200 million dollar investment into something that had 10 year old graphics by a company that had no experience in making an mmo before exclusive to a platform that has a competitor that defines everything that the mmo market revolves around.

How could it go wrong?
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
April 17 2013 03:12 GMT
#47
This feels like a shoein for failure. None of the elegance in gameplay/flow design that made Bungie what they are. Tie in to a TV show that seems to be a lot more about politics and relationships than challenge and combat (for the simple reason that you can't do that economically on a show, as GoT and BsG both demonstrated. Open world MMos are notoriously bad at delivering stories, so it won't mesh well.

The kinaesthetics are mediocre, definitely not to WoW smoothness levels, the combat is better than normal MMO combat but waaay worse than most shooters, so you're marketing to a group who don't exist- people who play MMOs tend not to care about combat mechanics. People who don't do, so you're not selling anything that group A desperately wants, and you're not selling it hard enough to convince group B.

The interface is horribly designed, the game flow feels around MMO typical and in general it's just not standing out in any regard at all.

If you want to make a successful MMO, you HAVE to stand out, preferably in some aspect of gameplay.

Ain't saying it won't be fun, but it won't be fun enough. Supporting an expensive TV show AND an MMO development is going to ruin their coffers. They're all in on this one and if it doesn't work very, very well, I think they may not survive it.
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
czylu
Profile Joined June 2012
477 Posts
April 17 2013 04:39 GMT
#48
the show is so damn cheesy lol. god, sci-fi went downhill when they decided to become the "syfy" channel.
Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
April 17 2013 08:43 GMT
#49
Like others have said it is just so god damn cheesy and the writing is something i could've done when i was 15 years old.
Most, if not all the characters seem very predictable and boring. I was surprised that there were actually a few "famous" actors in the cast but i don't think they can save this show. Sad thing is that it's probably the best scifi going on atm atleast it is better than that dinosaur show which isn't saying much
Jay3llo
Profile Joined April 2013
United States17 Posts
April 17 2013 09:05 GMT
#50
I haven't seen it yet; had my DVR on when it showed on SyFy so i'll catch this later fasho
M.R. McThundercrotch
Profile Joined June 2012
United States265 Posts
April 17 2013 10:33 GMT
#51
On April 17 2013 02:05 tyr wrote:
This is nowhere near BSG.


Uh...

On April 17 2013 02:05 tyr wrote:
I just saw it and I was quite bored throughout the episode. I don't see how a love story between teens is "sci-fi".


...sounds exactly like BSG to me: a soap opera (also with space stuff).

Still, though, new sci fi on TV has got me hopeful.
On June 30 2012 01:42 iNcontroL wrote: Fuck a lot of you. Fuck you forever.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
April 17 2013 10:56 GMT
#52
Watched the opening. Not terrible but not amazing. Good acting at least. Unlikely to be the next bsg but it can hold its own. Needs more scifi otherwise it will just get boring.
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-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
April 17 2013 14:35 GMT
#53
When I read someone earlier say this show is like new BSG I was so happy. I then watched it and.... I must have been watching a different show then that guy. Defiance would be new BSG if only it had:
1. Better story
2. Better acting
3. Better CGI
..in that order of importance.
Leyra
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1222 Posts
April 17 2013 14:43 GMT
#54
I watched about 20 minutes of it, thought it had the usual "Sci fi original movie" acting in it, then heard it actually had a huge budget. Pretty disappointing, the acting/writing was incredible cheesy/lame, imo.
Liman
Profile Joined July 2012
Serbia681 Posts
April 17 2013 15:23 GMT
#55
On April 17 2013 09:55 Sermokala wrote:
They put 100 million into this and the game for 1 season worth of content. Its not low budget at all.

It also bagged 1.3 mill in the 19-49 which makes it the best premiere the network has gotten in 7 years. hopefully it stays for a while and makes real sci fi a thing again.


Ok low budget is a bad term.What i should have wrote is B production.
Terra nova was 5-10 mill per episode,had better graphics and not that bad story and it still failed.
Scifi channel is known for making bad tv shows and movies so my hope for this is low.Remember Stargate universe?It was much better visually made but first season had too much drama and by the time they remembered its a scifi show in second season it was already too late,no one was watching it anymore.
It is heartbreaking how scifi genre on tv went to hell.
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Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-17 17:34:03
April 17 2013 17:30 GMT
#56
On April 18 2013 00:23 Liman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2013 09:55 Sermokala wrote:
They put 100 million into this and the game for 1 season worth of content. Its not low budget at all.

It also bagged 1.3 mill in the 19-49 which makes it the best premiere the network has gotten in 7 years. hopefully it stays for a while and makes real sci fi a thing again.


Ok low budget is a bad term.What i should have wrote is B production.
Terra nova was 5-10 mill per episode,had better graphics and not that bad story and it still failed.
Scifi channel is known for making bad tv shows and movies so my hope for this is low.Remember Stargate universe?It was much better visually made but first season had too much drama and by the time they remembered its a scifi show in second season it was already too late,no one was watching it anymore.
It is heartbreaking how scifi genre on tv went to hell.

Terra Nova had pretty terrible story. That is why it failed. And too much focus on teen drama.

When are these story writers going to figure out that putting kids in SF stories is a big fail!!
BGS had 0 kid main characters = Good.
Star Wars older movies = no kids = good!
Star Wars new movies = kid main char = terrible!
Star Trek = kid characters always least liked but luckily none were important = great show!
Firefly = no kid characters = great show!
Farscape = no kid characters = great show!
Falling Skies = kids everywhere = terrible show!
Revolution = kids again ((and their mothers) = bad show!
V (new) = too much focus on kids (and mothers) = terrible show!
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ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2297 Posts
April 18 2013 20:12 GMT
#57
How many actually made a comment on the damn game rather than the TV show??
Can't even read a decent review/comment on the game... Anyone?
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
April 18 2013 20:26 GMT
#58
TB did a thing on it, but it honestly sounds like he's been paid to say anything but "it sucks"
Zax19
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1136 Posts
April 18 2013 21:00 GMT
#59
Well, there is one topic about the game and one about both the TV show and the game, so it might be better to keep the discussion separate.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=230941
Really Blizz, really? - Darnell
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7195 Posts
April 18 2013 21:25 GMT
#60
On April 19 2013 05:12 ffswowsucks wrote:
How many actually made a comment on the damn game rather than the TV show??
Can't even read a decent review/comment on the game... Anyone?


I would be quite interested in this as well
Nobody playin this?
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